Washington Post calls GameCube "obsolete", recommends PS2/Xbox for Holiday gifts...
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Unison said:
Zelda yes. Resident Evil has not been commercially viable for about five years now. The brand is about as dead to consumers as Tomb Raider.
cja said:
If you honestly think the only first party Xbox games in 2005 are those two that are released before May, you are an IDOT.
Warm Machine
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Say it with me... "One console future!"
SonicMegaDrive
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Unison said:
Yes. I only own a Gamecube. It suits my needs perfectly.
The Abominable Snowman
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I disagree on RE4. It's managed to sell 1 million in REmake. It's going to do better on PS2 than GC, and I expect at least 300-600K for the GC version. It'll basically be kinda like the Splinter Cell situation.
VistraNorrez
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I only own a GC, and I don't really care. I also don't play nearly as many games as I used to. There are most certainly things that interest me on other consoles, but I just don't have to money to buy another system. I will eventually get a PS2 (I got a PS1 two years ago), but I'm in no hurry. I will buy the next Nintendo system, but not a PS3 or Xbox2 (or atleast not for a few years after they're out). Plain and simple I perfer the games Nintendo makes more than any other company. I of course have a PC, and there are still plenty of games for that, old and new.
I am certainly devoted to them, but that's because I've gotten the most enjoyment from them. I have nothing against other companys, and I'm glad they are there.
I recognize Nintendo is no longer the king in the market, and could careless. As long as they make games that I want I will be there and support them. Should one day the only place to find their games is on another platform, well that's what I'll purchase.
As of right now I have too many games to get to, and that I still want to get. I'm in the midst of Pikmin 2, then there's still PM2, HM, ToS, LoZ:WW, and I'll probably pick up MP2 MK: DD. Plus I still have a bunch of PC games I want to get to (that is an eternal problem though) as well as GBA games.
Being a GC only (well mainly) gamer is fine by me. I don't care about their marketshare, I just accept Nintendo for what they are.
I am certainly devoted to them, but that's because I've gotten the most enjoyment from them. I have nothing against other companys, and I'm glad they are there.
I recognize Nintendo is no longer the king in the market, and could careless. As long as they make games that I want I will be there and support them. Should one day the only place to find their games is on another platform, well that's what I'll purchase.
As of right now I have too many games to get to, and that I still want to get. I'm in the midst of Pikmin 2, then there's still PM2, HM, ToS, LoZ:WW, and I'll probably pick up MP2 MK: DD. Plus I still have a bunch of PC games I want to get to (that is an eternal problem though) as well as GBA games.
Being a GC only (well mainly) gamer is fine by me. I don't care about their marketshare, I just accept Nintendo for what they are.
Anyone who thinks GCN isn't obsolete needs to get out. I'm a GameCube fan, I love the console, but it's the underdog -- that's for sure. Perhaps things will change eventually, maybe they won't. I enjoy my GCN, it's great, but Nintendo screwed up this generation worse than it did the last one. We'll see how Revolution materializes.
At least DS is selling well.
At least DS is selling well.
Jade Empire isn't an MGS title but I guess it is technically published and probably funded by Microsoft so fair enough. Still, nothing officially confirmed beyond March and with the Xenon due later in the year publishers aren't going to be putting new or exclusive IP onto Xbox. The "journalist" who wrote this article is screwing his readers by saying the Xbox is equivalent to PS2 or that the Xbox has better upcoming exclusive software than the GC.AniHawk said:
SonicMegaDrive
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I'm actually back-logged on games to buy.
I Still need Donkey Konga, 4 Swords, POP 2, VJ2, Metroid Prime 2, Paper Mario 2, Baten Kaitos, hell I still need to get a copy of Mario Kart DD.
So even if Nintendo decided to never release another game for GC, I'd still have tons of games to buy. But again, that's just me.
I Still need Donkey Konga, 4 Swords, POP 2, VJ2, Metroid Prime 2, Paper Mario 2, Baten Kaitos, hell I still need to get a copy of Mario Kart DD.
So even if Nintendo decided to never release another game for GC, I'd still have tons of games to buy. But again, that's just me.
Yeah. With one console, that's where the 3rd-party games go. It's sad some people pretend 3rd-party games don't count for anything in some snobby way. F'ing bastards only play AAA-Exclusive Xbox titles. ("Feh, Prince of Persia is crap, I much prefer the superior EXCLUSIVE Blinx!")AniHawk said:
satterfield
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drohne said:
This man speaks the truth.
Yeah, my collection is mostly third party. If anyone wants to know what makes up an 80 game Cube collection, I have:
27 Nintendo
10 EA
7 Sega
4 Activision
4 Namco
4 Capcom
3 Lucasarts
3 Ubisoft
2 Acclaim
2 THQ
2 Atari
2 TDK
And 10 games from some other companies. Though Nintendo is clearly my favorite publisher, about 2/3 of my purchases are from others.
27 Nintendo
10 EA
7 Sega
4 Activision
4 Namco
4 Capcom
3 Lucasarts
3 Ubisoft
2 Acclaim
2 THQ
2 Atari
2 TDK
And 10 games from some other companies. Though Nintendo is clearly my favorite publisher, about 2/3 of my purchases are from others.
JoshuaJSlone
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http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=25667Subitai said:I still can't find the article or press release of this info. Please someone direct me.
I don't find 250,000 particularly impressive, though, considering that it's for the latter half of November.
No.cja said:
ManaByte said:
Going by casual interests and tastes, XBX is a better deal for the upcoming year. Even going by snob tastes in here, saying half the PS2 and XBX games are trash and every GCN is at least decent, that's still more games for XBX and almost double for PS2.
Man, this is setting GCN up for something really insulting if XBX sells more this time next year than GCN after the Xenon launch. It's like when PSOne was almost selling more in 02.
TheGreenGiant
Banned
well.. let see...
xbox is not on shelves
ps2 is not on shelves
(or hard to find)
GC is everywhere by the sounds of it. I think I hear the gears of the momentum train chugging into 2005.
xbox is not on shelves
ps2 is not on shelves
(or hard to find)
GC is everywhere by the sounds of it. I think I hear the gears of the momentum train chugging into 2005.
radioheadrule83
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Firstly, I own three consoles, but I call bullshit.
For a start: in every single regard barre first party hardware/software sales, and the quality of the products therein.... GCN >>>>> N64.
And with regard to what Drohne said, yes, I'd recommend a Gamecube to any gamer and keep a clear conscience. They're good machines with great games.
While I would agree with the Washington Post if they had said the other consoles have the greater variety of westernised games, umpteen times more online titles etc... the statement is just wrong. There are still great games on Gamecube you can't get anywhere else. And if they're talking in terms of hardware sales, retail support or whatever - it's still around, and in global terms it's no more obselete than Xbox. Even third party support is better now than it ever was on Nintendo 64. So really: Obselete is not the term I would have used if I wanted to convey that the typical American gamer favors Xbox and PS2, and the wealth of titles they offer. There may be fewer titles overall on Gamecube, but it could be argued a greater percentage of it's SKUs are of a moderate to high quality. At least to some tastes. There's the whole niche that always prefers Nintendo's style, their core demographics young and older. They know there's only one place they can play the entire Resident Evil series inclusive of it's remake and prequel. They know there's only one place where they can get Mario, Zelda, Metroid. Party games like Wario Ware, Mario Kart, Mario Party and for the time being Super Monkey Ball. The Metal Gear Solid remake. Games like Eternal Darkness, F Zero GX, Donkey Konga, the forthcoming Jungle Beat and many more. They know that for the bulk of 05 it's the only place they can play Resident Evil 4. And it's where Zelda will hit next year long after a lot of the competitions' biggest titles have had their limelight. It's not obselete to them. It's definately not obselete technologically. If another paper decided to write something up saying 4 controller ports make consoles with only 2 obselete, or loading times in the milliseconds made consoles that suffer from longer loading times obselete -- some people here would actually be up in arms, even though it's probably a more rational statement. For a console that will always be cheaper than the other two: a console that has, and will have even more, titles that many people could find enjoyable -- I don't see why you wouldn't consider recommending it to someone.
I can't believe the thread is still going. From page one it was evident where this would go.
For a start: in every single regard barre first party hardware/software sales, and the quality of the products therein.... GCN >>>>> N64.
And with regard to what Drohne said, yes, I'd recommend a Gamecube to any gamer and keep a clear conscience. They're good machines with great games.
While I would agree with the Washington Post if they had said the other consoles have the greater variety of westernised games, umpteen times more online titles etc... the statement is just wrong. There are still great games on Gamecube you can't get anywhere else. And if they're talking in terms of hardware sales, retail support or whatever - it's still around, and in global terms it's no more obselete than Xbox. Even third party support is better now than it ever was on Nintendo 64. So really: Obselete is not the term I would have used if I wanted to convey that the typical American gamer favors Xbox and PS2, and the wealth of titles they offer. There may be fewer titles overall on Gamecube, but it could be argued a greater percentage of it's SKUs are of a moderate to high quality. At least to some tastes. There's the whole niche that always prefers Nintendo's style, their core demographics young and older. They know there's only one place they can play the entire Resident Evil series inclusive of it's remake and prequel. They know there's only one place where they can get Mario, Zelda, Metroid. Party games like Wario Ware, Mario Kart, Mario Party and for the time being Super Monkey Ball. The Metal Gear Solid remake. Games like Eternal Darkness, F Zero GX, Donkey Konga, the forthcoming Jungle Beat and many more. They know that for the bulk of 05 it's the only place they can play Resident Evil 4. And it's where Zelda will hit next year long after a lot of the competitions' biggest titles have had their limelight. It's not obselete to them. It's definately not obselete technologically. If another paper decided to write something up saying 4 controller ports make consoles with only 2 obselete, or loading times in the milliseconds made consoles that suffer from longer loading times obselete -- some people here would actually be up in arms, even though it's probably a more rational statement. For a console that will always be cheaper than the other two: a console that has, and will have even more, titles that many people could find enjoyable -- I don't see why you wouldn't consider recommending it to someone.
I can't believe the thread is still going. From page one it was evident where this would go.
Ok, so it's from Nintendo's press release.JoshuaJSlone said:
Anyway, you're right considering they sold 468k 2 years ago and 754k last year. Although, Amazon lists the bundle availability starting Nov. 2nd. I'm not sure if that's good or bad. Hopefully they've sold as many non-MK bundles for November too.
radioheadrule83
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Subitai said:
Should be interesting... either they're not doing as well as the PR makes it sound like they are, or a slowdown has started to settle in. I missed the Oct numbers so I don't know if there was any kind of leap across the board, but what with shortages I wouldn't really know. I know that the top threshold for Aug and Sept on any console was approx 250/260k. Nintendo haven't sold 170k+ since Christmas 2003.
Catchpenny
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drohne said:
For someone who doesn't have an interest in realistic racers/shooters, and wants to save $50 or more? Absolutely. I'd definitely recommend it to someone younger.
In fact, I'd recommend it over Xbox in general unless they like racers and online games. Xbox will be just as dead if not more dead than Gamecube in a year to make way for Xenon. I still see big titles on the release schedule for Gamecube...Xbox has Jade Empire and Conker, that's pretty much it for interesting exclusives.