Don't get me wrong, I want this to be good. I'm a graphics whore, though. I need stuff that gets me in the mood, be that glorious 2D art or Crytek techincal wizardry. Writing and good gameplay isn't enough. I just hope they have the time and money to give this the look and feel it deserves.
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Wasteland 2 Kickstarter project by inXile entertainment [Ended, $3 Million Funded]
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Oh god please, if it's like that then I'd be so happy.
I'd be happy with something akin to Temple of Elemental Evil, but with better character models and animations.
Definitely. I'd settle for a modern high-res Infinity Engine level myself, actually. I just want it to look good, I don't care if it's 2D or 3D.
spindoctor
Member
I would hope that the final product is an isometric game that looks something at the level of Titan Quest. Is that too much to expect?
Wow, they are indeed adding everything on the list. Updated $30 pledge from the Kickstarter page:
Previous reward + Downloadable DRM free digital soundtrack by Mark Morgan and digital WASTELAND 2 CONCEPT ART BOOK + Extra Digital Downloadable copy of game DRM free for PC or MAC OSX or Linux + Exclusive Ranger portrait collection + Access to Four episode Video Dev Blog. Also receive a Novella on the Wasteland 2 world created by Chris Avellone.
Previous reward + Downloadable DRM free digital soundtrack by Mark Morgan and digital WASTELAND 2 CONCEPT ART BOOK + Extra Digital Downloadable copy of game DRM free for PC or MAC OSX or Linux + Exclusive Ranger portrait collection + Access to Four episode Video Dev Blog. Also receive a Novella on the Wasteland 2 world created by Chris Avellone.
That's pretty insane.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I'm in the 50 tier for the DD and retail/physical copies so anytbing more is icing.
Ignis Fatuus
Banned
That is now probably the best $30 tier I've ever seen.
How could they change the pledge rewards? I remember someone saying that can't be done once someone has pledged and chose that reward tier?
spindoctor
Member
I assume it's okay because they're only adding to the tier, and not subtracting anything that was promised earlier.
I've seen a few projects change the text after people have pledged. Maybe they have to keep the original text and they're only allowed to tack on additional rewards?
A Human Becoming
More than a Member
So wait, the $50 tier gets the "Exclusive Ranger portrait collection + Access to Four episode Video Dev Blog" as well, right?
Updated my pledge to $30 a few days ago, but these are some extra nice goodies. I'd goto $50 if I could, but I've gotta show some restraint with these Kickstarter projects at some point.
Temptation might kick in right before the deadline though if they need that extra push.....
Temptation might kick in right before the deadline though if they need that extra push.....
A Human Becoming
More than a Member
Considering it's a "niche" title being funded by its "niche" audience, expect "niche" sales.How much did you think it will sell? I hope at least 500.000 copies, more than enough to fund another title.
Too optimistic?
Ignis Fatuus
Banned
I wonder if they'll consider a Wasteland 2 expansion pack in the classic tradition. It could be a good way of getting more revenue without dipping too deep into profits or going back to Kickstarter immediately.
MightyHedgehog
Member
Whatever the case with enforcing complete consistency across changes in the tiers, in this case, there is only additions, no subtractions at all. That loaded $30 tier was a smart move, but I think it was a bit too late. Guess that they're betting on people checking in on that last day to find it and double their initial pledge. It's got a shot at $2.9M, for sure. Maybe people will pledge merely to push it over the $3M mark just to do so.
Every tier gets the previous tier rewards.
Long-term sales could be that high, especially if it gets a good reception and after a few Steam/GOG sales, but I'm not sure if it'll sell that much at full price, so it's hard to say how much it'll actually make $$$. I'm guessing they might make enough to make another game, but I'm not sure if they'll want to use all of that to make a new game or whether they'd rather save some of that for when they'll really need it. From what Fargo has said, it has sounded like they do plan to use Kickstarter for future projects as well.How much did you think it will sell? I hope at least 500.000 copies, more than enough to fund another title.
Too optimistic?
B_Rik_Schitthaus
Banned
With a pulled back camera thing don't need to be so detailed, and asset re-use is less obvious (and one use story items can be explained in text and never shown),since they won't have to create sprite anymore it will allow for a whole new level of asset management.
If they have an engine that can handle a good amount of lighting and shadows I could see it look way better then FO3.
re: future InXile kickstarters, assuming Wasteland 2 is successful and good, my inclination would be to say:
"We're going to use the money from Wasteland 2's success to fund the next internal project, maybe another Bard's Tale or Wasteland game. That decision's in our hands; we have the cash flow now, but only to do one project at a time and sink or swim by it.
But now that we've proven ourselves, what other game do you want us to make? A new IP? We'll put up a kickstarter, assemble a new dream team, and make it for you."
That way the company expands and it doesn't feel like they're asking for an unnecessary handout.
"We're going to use the money from Wasteland 2's success to fund the next internal project, maybe another Bard's Tale or Wasteland game. That decision's in our hands; we have the cash flow now, but only to do one project at a time and sink or swim by it.
But now that we've proven ourselves, what other game do you want us to make? A new IP? We'll put up a kickstarter, assemble a new dream team, and make it for you."
That way the company expands and it doesn't feel like they're asking for an unnecessary handout.
Pachterballs
Banned
Brian wants you to up that pledge from $15 --> 30; and he's damn well making sure the value proposition is there. Best thing about it though, this upgrade benefits me
we're counting down now. Less than 2 days to go. Then the long hard wait and I'm going to avoid the Beta.
we're counting down now. Less than 2 days to go. Then the long hard wait
and I'm going to avoid the Beta.fizzelopeguss
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Minsc
Gold Member
Favorite thing about these kickstarters, besides all the extra physical / digital content you can get, is the developer behind the scenes / insight videos. Glad to see the four episode video dev blog added (even if it's not going to be as humorous as DFA's) as well as the novella by Chris Avellone.
People tend to pay extra attention / back more frequently in the last day or so of a kickstarter, they will be fine. Leaving a big thing like this to end on was good I think, how much more could they have added now, if this was put in before?
People tend to pay extra attention / back more frequently in the last day or so of a kickstarter, they will be fine. Leaving a big thing like this to end on was good I think, how much more could they have added now, if this was put in before?
bernardobri
Steve, the dog with no powers that we let hang out with us all for some reason
Anyone knows if the novella by Avellone will be available separately at launch? I'd like to pledge more money but I don't want to blow out my card. :-/
People tend to pay extra attention / back more frequently in the last day or so of a kickstarter, they will be fine. Leaving a big thing like this to end on was good I think, how much more could they have added now, if this was put in before?
Well, they wouldn't necessarily have had to add anything at this point if they had done it earlier. Kickstarters get a big jump at the end simply from people getting in at the last minute.
The problem (relatively-speaking) with doing it this late is that a lot of people who already pledged at $15 may miss it entirely, while earlier they would have had a greater chance at seeing it and upping their pledges. There are over 32,000 people at $15 - relative to around 5k at $30 - so that's quite a difference.
But I agree it should still end up with a great number. And the stuff they did add to $30 is just superb.
A Human Becoming
More than a Member
Bust out some charts people!
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
I hope the whole behind-the-scenes dev thing becomes a normal thing for future major Kickstarters. They don't necessarily have to spend as much money as Double Fine is on hiring a full outside staff to do it, or create as many videos as those guys are. They can make that stuff fairly simple to film, as I imagine inXile will, since the content will be what really matters.
Well, Doublefine did manage almost 400k in their last 24 hours I believe. So there's some hope.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
The PayPal is at $80k.
This is Sparta, people.
"Access to a collection of exclusive Ranger portraits that will double the pool of character portraits you have to choose from at the start of the game when you are rolling up your Rangers. This unique image collection will not only give you more Ranger portraits, but more Ranger icons used to display your party location on the world map."
So we pick our stats. Interesting. I like.
This is Sparta, people.
"Access to a collection of exclusive Ranger portraits that will double the pool of character portraits you have to choose from at the start of the game when you are rolling up your Rangers. This unique image collection will not only give you more Ranger portraits, but more Ranger icons used to display your party location on the world map."
So we pick our stats. Interesting. I like.
Initial player-created party + recruitable NPCs that can also join up.