IceDoesntHelp
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Why wasn't there a question mark? ):
Do you hate question marks?
Also, thanks for adding salt to the wound.
Wii U Speculation thread IV: Photoshop rumors and image memes
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Why wasn't there a question mark? ):
Do you hate question marks?
Also, thanks for adding salt to the wound.
Yeah, but in Wii U's case we'd be looking at RV740 as "impressive". It won't go beyond that, and that was the max from the very beginning.Thats my point, its impressive that they could squize in that, and thats probably a small team working on this. What happens when you have a really large team?
P.S. I just really wanted a small 11 inch laptop, for portable work. Considering I got the souped up verson for a mere 900 euros.... its a good price... life with no VAT rules
Do we know which wireless protocol Wii U is using for video transmission? Bluetooth 2.x would obviously be out of the picture because of bandwidth.
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What happens if they dumped AMD? and used something else?
Aka 3ds, rummored to use Tegra, but then Nintendo went with PICA.
Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
The wait for the actual system won't be a big deal for me. It's not knowing what's coming and waiting a full year for more information that is killing me.
After E3 I'll have plenty of games to buy (Dragon's Dogma, Gravity Rush, Last Story, Tomb Raider, theatrhytm, Sleeping Dogs, Etc. along with whatever Nintendo's summer line-up is) along with TONS of backlog games to catch up too (Skyrim, Last Window, Deus Ex, Africa, Valkria Chronicles, etc.) and Wii-U speculation thread 13 to waste my free-time away with.
The wait will be a lot easier after E3.
custom CPU/GPU
boyshine
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If the resolution stays the same and they change to multitouch to attract the best mobile devs
(I would personally prefer it stayed resistive, because I really want precision draw/paint and stylus FPS controls)
schwabdizzle
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I think it is going to be a major surprise. Depending on the launch lineup, i am sure I will swoop one.
Yeah, it's the fact that we know so little that's maddening, once the veil is lifted we can all relax.
Going with NVidia might actually make things worse, if anything.
You can't customize it enough to significantly reduce heat without cutting performance or features.
I think you'll be saying the opposite after E3.
Right now we're probably ignorant of quite a few surprises that will make it even harder, although post E3 we'll be preoccupied with all the trash-talk that's sure to come out of the conference, so maybe not.
nordique
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Its going to be a custom GPU, not something from 4000,5000,6000, or 7000 series.
The big drawcards of the controller for me are not it's touch abilities per se, but it's ability to play games on it instead of taking up the TV and web browsing/email. If the screen is too small then it won't be particularly good for full-size gameplay and then the browsing experience will be severely restricted.
They need to do a 3DS in the home. That is, make me want to have the controller with me all the time like I do with my iPad. If they do that then I will keep "Wii U" in my brain more often.
I used to like you.
In all seriousness though I find lurking here for info leading up to E3 to be maddening. If they announce all this awesome shit for Wii U and my hype levels go through the roof, it will not be healthy for me to visit here often. I'll have to go dark or at least stick to the old method of Wii U info, which was RSS feeds and the odd gaming site. NeoGAF has too many people who know things
Ok, it's Idea Time !!!
We saw a lot of asymmetrical setups where the main screen is the place where the "main" action is occurring, and the secondary screen is relegated for a secondary view.
But imagine a reverse approach, where the heat is happening between your hands, and the TV render an overall angle.
Now, in this perspective, there are two gamedesign philosophies:
1) The TV shows a "spectator mode", not very involving for the player who will be focused on the padlet, but still, it will be an innovation in gaming, where these modes were usually available after a match ended, a level finished. Like a contemplative manner to see the game, for you and your friends sitting next to you.
Examples:
- In Mirror's Edge 2, you control Faith with the padlet, through the traditional first-person view of the franchise. It's frenetic, the angle of vision is limited, there's a lot of effects like motion blur or speed & wind current/lines to convey the frenzy, the speed, the dynamic, of the action.
And the TV display a third-person view, from a distant camera (enough reactive to switch between smooth travelings and impressive fixed angles depending on the situation), allowing you & your mates to admire the glory and the beauty of a character using parkour movements.
Look at the Tempest Freerunning Academy video (lol at the Mario Bros walls), imagine witnessing Faith doing that from the outside, while you see her arms and legs on the padlet. I'm sure a lot of people would just chill out in the sofa and contemplate your protagonist evolving in a city background like that.
(btw, the parkour was invented near where i live, french rox ! / and we need more dubstep in video games soundtracks
)2) A less passive use of this main screen spectator mode, implying interaction with it.
Examples:
- In Mirror's Edge 2 again, imagine the TV handling this overall camera & the padlet used in first-person view. Thanks to the main screen, you distinguish opponents, obstacles, alleys, paths, that you won't be able to see through a human field of view, you have a better appreciation of the situation. And with the subscreen, the gameplay is more focused, you spot & grab holds in the walls, to control very precisely where you want to go, where you wish to land, behind or in front of enemies that you identified in a glimpse on the TV, etc.
There's even a cooperative application, when you're still controlling Faith with the DRC, while your friend is tagging in a "precognition/heighten awareness mode" some ways or opponents in the urban scenery by pointing the TV with the Wii-remote, enabling additional holds, different pathways, and giving you bonus to counter your enemies, on the padlet.
- In the return of a glorious Quake 5, this reversed asymmetrical gameplay will allow the come back of LAN feelings in your house, each of your friends play in their own little computer, the padlet, their personal view, while the TV is showing the spectator mode. Usually, when a LAN Quake 3 match finished, your friends used to tease each other, making fun or praising their skills, while seeing a replay, allowing a better understanding of its course. "Ohhh bastard, this is how you killed me this time ! This is where you hide !!!!!!". But with the Wii U, the spectator mode is available DURING the match. Think of a tricky and malicious camera that will reveal randomly where your opponents await silently to rocketjump in your face ! Or even better, some items à la mario kart that you get, fixing for 20 seconds the TV camera to one of your opponent, revealing its position, etc. I could see a lot of fun potential with these ideas
That definitely doesn't work. lol
GameplayWhore
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It's apparently an entirely custom protocol designed to be as extremely low latency as possible. That's all we know.
There are other players in town, that would be willing to make something way cheaper just for some promotion.
AceBandage
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True. But that means limitations and compromises, as well.
AMD is going to give them exactly what they need and they'll still get a good deal.
But none that offer anywhere near the performance they need.
bgassassin
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Honestly I don't even recall that being the case. That one seemed to still be open for debate as to what they might use.
*pat pat*
Everyone's first thread gets shit on, whether they know it's your first or not.
AceBandage
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Mine was okay kinda sorta maybe
ShockingAlberto
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My first thread was a posting of a Famitsu article I saw on Games Are Fun that was sourced from here.
Embarrassing!
Embarrassing!
*sniff* okay, thanks
allright, so what's up next?
nintendo fiscal year converence? When is that going to happen? 26th?
IceDoesntHelp
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Mine went fine..not over 25 posts, but it went fine.
Considering the latest devkits don't seem to be modular anymore, I think Nintendo knows what they'll use. And my money is on NiFi (WLAN with a custom transport protocol, no TCP/IP).
AceBandage
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Yup. We should hear little tidbits in about a week.
Thaniks guys. Mine is doin' well (allread at 50! Yay...) but totally missing the point anyway.
ok, but back to topic now.
TCP/IP would be overkill yes. Basically they just need to get that sucker down so that the overhead is as small as possible.
Man even if they have to release a 4 player cord pack so if you want 4 player, just plug the other 2 in!
Can't wait.
not because of OMG!WTF! annoucments, but the small little tibbits they let drop out here and there along the line to amke the investors feel better. Even more so so close to E3.
and as cherry on the top: massivly stoopid questions and suggestions by investors. Those are a superb bonus item.
*hugs*
You're braver than I. I haven't started a new thread in years. I'm too timid, and don't want the attention.
Nu way, you want me to get crushed or what, i get on the nerves of enough people already
btw, expect some informations about Wii U features before the end of the week. Nothing huge though. Why not now ? Because i need to read again the data collected a few months ago and carefully write the message with all the context detailed, etc. And it's more fun to know that there will be a bit of new info revealed soon than spilling the bean without notice.
I'm with you on this one. But if i say that some studios, sometimes lazy in the past with their use of innovative features such as this, are clearly on board, and "play the game" this time by theorycrafting/searching/implementing since a moment now neat ideas and applications for the padlet, are you reassured ?
IceDoesntHelp
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Anytime. Its my doodie.
So next week is that investors thing huh...well I better over hype it!
bgassassin
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Oh when I say "debate" I mean on our end.
GameplayWhore
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Hmmm, it is entirely possible that my brain made this up. Or that I heard somewhere that Nintendo had their own Network or Transport layer protocol and assumed it extended to Data link or Physical.
edit: oh, something like that was already said.
Nope.avi
GameplayWhore
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Nu way, you want me to get crushed or what, i get on the nerves of enough people already
btw, expect some informations about Wii U features before the end of the week. Nothing huge though. Why not now ? Because i need to read again the data collected a few months ago and carefully write the message with all the context detailed, etc. And it's more fun to know that there will be a bit of new info revealed soon than spilling the bean without notice.
Consider me suitably teased.
IceDoesntHelp
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Not sure yet, expecting the 5th.
Well, it was wired in the firsts dev kits, but now it's definitively wireless.
I am in love with the idea of multiple perspectives, and yours only fuel that feeling. There are some fiendishly crazy ideas that can be implemented with this mechanic.Ok, it's Idea Time !!!
(and yes - the more games set in cities like Paris, the better! The architecture alone would make them worthwhile!) <3
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
Do you think the loading time will be longer for the Wii U?
Nintendo are always good at hiding loading times, but with bigger discs, HD, etc....
Nintendo are always good at hiding loading times, but with bigger discs, HD, etc....
GameplayWhore
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Did those devkits have the controls awkwardly positioned below the screen? I remember something being mentioned about that.
IceDoesntHelp
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But...but Toronto ):
I still want a Fallout set in Toronto during the annexing of Canada..that would be so sweet.
I just wanted an excuse to post up my Fallout dreams.
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