This is true. I particularly enjoyed the crowd chanting "briefcase wanker" at Sheamus.
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WWE Raw drops to lowest TV rating in 18 years
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This is true. I particularly enjoyed the crowd chanting "briefcase wanker" at Sheamus.
Stereogatari
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What was the peak? Attitude era?
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Yep, an Undertaker vs Austin match on Raw got over a 9.0 rating.
UberTag
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50-year-old dead man can still pop a rating... OR... perhaps the streak was the only mystique he still had going for him. And that ended over a year and a half ago.
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thepotatoman
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From reading this topic, it sounds like the only thing they've done as a response is put old timers back in the spotlight.
I wonder how long until they realize that's not the fix they're looking for.
I wonder how long until they realize that's not the fix they're looking for.
Yes
Bluekaveli
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Why does this thread still get bumped?
BigMastadon
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Because of ratings discussion?
.......because they continue to set new record lows in ratings on a weekly basis. And considering this thread has now reached 1900 posts, it's something that people want to talk about.
What's the point of this post?
reptilescorpio
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Look up 9 posts.
Bluekaveli
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Most people just want to shit on the name in general. Why not discuss it in the wrestling thread?
Shamrock7r
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Good job, you bumped the thread. Way to bump the thread!
They haven't done that. No one even knew Undertaker or Kane would come out. It would probably have helped ratings if the tournament had Undertaker, Kane, Jericho, and RVD in it. Unlike everyone else on the roster, those were stars at one time. They can't make real stars anymore.
Because they deserved to get shitted on
Nerdkiller
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Uhhh...no? RAW can be great when they at least try. Hell, I still get excited for first post 'Mania RAW every year. But this...most episodes these days just leave me with a resounding "meh".
This is true. I particularly enjoyed the crowd chanting "briefcase wanker" at Sheamus.
oh man I need to see this
As much as i think they are really bad at everything they do, currently, i somewhat can't help but feel there is no simple solution and they, or anyone in that matter are absolutely clueless about how to fix it.
I mean, there is the kid problem, the nostalgic guys,the mainstream audience wanting.. what exactly ? Cena ? The smarks wanting good wrestling..
I'm not sure someone actually nows what a modern mainstream audience wants in term of wrestling. The product, wrestling, in itself is such a weird little anachronistic fellow. I mean let's face it. if it wasn't existing right now, and someone came with the concept, it would be dead on arrival. It maintained itself in the us culture cause it had been there for ages and people are attached to it. But when the links between now and the golden era disappear one after the other, you're left with the question after some time. How the fuck do you make wrestling a massively watched program in 2015.
My answer would be to level up by 500 the production value, the story, the coherency, the characters... It's actually hard to imagine a wrestling show where every member of the roster feels like a real person with personality, goals, ambition, skills.. rather than a poor guy trying to do the dumb things that are asked to him every weeks.
There is some kind of self indulgence that let the WWE keep everything that was crapy for years. And i mean the inconsistency of the matches, the storylines, in the roster, in the booking, but also in some in ring things, that are just not believable at all but kept cause it's some kind of tradition... So it's dying, slowly but surely cause it won't evolve in a big way. That weird little magic that makes WWE wrestling relevant in our days and ages, won't last forever.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Wrestling's dying because nothing's changed in a decade. WWE is doing worse than WCW in its dying days. It's newsworthy, and also hilarious seeing the thread bumped weekly to update on the new record low.
Violence Jack
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They don't have anyone that draws crowds anymore. Not without Cena or Brock there full time. Plus, who's the top heel without Rollins?
UberTag
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Apparently the top heel is Bray Wyatt... aka that loser who never wins any feuds or does anything heelish.
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thepotatoman
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From the OT:
Doesn't the 2.23 with 3.17 million viewers rating mean we hit the lowest since 1997 including holidays now? Or do we have to wait for them to shed off 35,000 more viewers first?
Might have to wait for this time next year to talk about it dropping below the 1.9 rating to be the worst rated Raw ever.
Doesn't the 2.23 with 3.17 million viewers rating mean we hit the lowest since 1997 including holidays now? Or do we have to wait for them to shed off 35,000 more viewers first?
Might have to wait for this time next year to talk about it dropping below the 1.9 rating to be the worst rated Raw ever.
Miles Quaritch
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Why is RAW now three hours long?
To make up for Smackdown not being on?
To make up for Smackdown not being on?
BigMastadon
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But Smackdown is still on every week. It's also being moved to USA Network next year.
USA forced them to switch to three hours. Now the third hour is causing ratings to plummet but none of USA's new shows have taken off, so they need Raw more than ever now. If they decided not to keep it on their channel, USA goes from the highest-rated cable channel to #17.
USA wanted it. Vince hates it.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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Really and they still want Smackdwon now too? So many bad decisions.
UberTag
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Perhaps if USA had RAW run only two hours from 8-10 they could have debuted new programming after the overrun that would appeal to invested wrestling fans that they could then follow to other nights on the network.
All that Bonnie Hammer is succeeding in is putting all of her rotten eggs in one bottomless basket that never seems to end and we've all frankly gotten so sick of that we don't bother watching at all.
PHOENIXZERO
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I've kind of despised Bonnie Hammer since her days of running the Sci-Fi channel.
But yeah, the main thing is that WWE needs a major overhaul that isn't going to happen because old man Vince seems content despite all the bullshit spin on how "everything on TV is competition".
But yeah, the main thing is that WWE needs a major overhaul that isn't going to happen because old man Vince seems content despite all the bullshit spin on how "everything on TV is competition".
Miles Quaritch
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Huh. I can see why Vince hates it.
Not sure I could sit through a three hour Raw every single week. There were times when the two hour show would drag on for what seemed like forever and that was when they had people like the Rock, Triple H, Stone Cold, Kurt Angle, etc.
Oh for... wrestling isn't dying.
And no, WWE isn't doing worse than WCW. To say that suggests you weren't there watching when WCW died.
they should go back to Spike.
That show being weak bullshit this year was really a sign of things to come.
Dirtyshubb
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'They can be good when they try, i mean they have at least 1 show a year i look forward to out of the 52 weekly 3 hour episodes of raw and another 52 2 hour episodes of Smackdown, plus the monthly ppv's and specials.
So they can be good when they try!'
If they have to do a 3 hour Raw, I honestly think it would make more sense to have the first hour act as a recap/pre-show. I know they have the pre-show on the network, but that is worth sacrificing if it solves the 3 hour problem.
Well, that and getting rid of some the bizarre booking decisions. I know it can't be as easy as we all like to think it is, but they are making the process of building some momentum behind someone seen impossible. Anyone who develops some naturally (Ambrose, Wyatt, Ziggler etc) get largely ignored.
Well, that and getting rid of some the bizarre booking decisions. I know it can't be as easy as we all like to think it is, but they are making the process of building some momentum behind someone seen impossible. Anyone who develops some naturally (Ambrose, Wyatt, Ziggler etc) get largely ignored.
real_slime
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Cutting, insightful commentary.
No way would the network go for that. Ratings for hour one would be nearing 1.0 level.
This is true. I particularly enjoyed the crowd chanting "briefcase wanker" at Sheamus.
That's amazing.
I don't think their current commentary team has the chops to fill two hours with that either.
real_slime
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all right, nice
UberTag
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They would if Vince wasn't in their ear sabotaging the entire commentary process.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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It's a company hitting record lows due to poor booking and a reliance on their overpaid, older stars. The fanbase keeps trying to tell them we want new people in the spotlight through NXT's popularity. WWE is WCW/TNA as fuck.
Alot of people would tune in to see that!
The Elite
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I have a hard time watching RAWs that are not live. Also, as great as a UK audience can be, the WWE will usually mute them if they don't like what they are saying.
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