balls of snow
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Guess the rog handheld is the beta test for the multiple stores ui ms is planning. If its really full back compat with windows I may finally have The Darkness 1 and Lost Odyssey back in my library.
If it has 50 tflops or more then we can have at least one mode on every game at 1080p and 60 fps.Are we officially done with 30fps?
It could be more than one kind of device under the umbrella, but "and fully compatible with your existing Xbox game library" suggests it will retain all current functionality as well.
Any chance you know why Xbox Design Lab has been down for 6 MONTHS to update their "payment" platform? This is such bullshit.And just yesterday I said I wasn't going to talk about future stuff anymore
What a time to go dark eh?
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If this were Xbox One gen I would agree, but Xbox seems to be going out of their way at this point to abandon the Series hardware platform. I'm just not sure the traditional console model is still on their roadmap.Xbox can't leave bespoke hardware behind. Gamepass doesn't work at scale without consoles.
Console gamers have been conditioned to pay monthly to use Internet with their games. They are already conditioned for gamepass. You can charge them more. They are younger than PC gamers and less likely to cancel month to month. They are a perfect captive audience. They also make up the vast majority of gamepass.
If you make the next real device a PC then you are resetting that programming and scattering your audience. Instead they need a real Xbox console to do the job.
Also Windows isn't actually ready for gaming. Slapping Windows on a bespoke console like XSX or PS5 would cause major performance issues. MS is aware of Window's deficiencies and working to resolve them. Maybe people who don't keep up with this stuff thinks this sounds crazy. You sure about that?
So this is the only move.
Zero clue on that honestlyAny chance you know why Xbox Design Lab has been down for 6 MONTHS to update their "payment" platform? This is such bullshit.
Many hopes have been broken and shattered today...
There will be a new XBOX and backwards compatibility too... next stop: "this isn't a console"![]()
Everything! It will have playstation exclusives too by steam. No brain choice.To play what ?
Exactly what I think will happen.My guess is Xbox consoles will work the way they always have. Windows PCs will work the way they always have. Both will feature the same logo.....
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Sorry, but I can only respond with LOL good sir...
The cope and "never surrender " mentality displayed by some of you is just something else...
I still like 720p actually but if done right, I'm fine with 1080p@120fps that genuinely feels like a PC.If it has 50 tflops or more then we can have at least one mode on every game at 1080p and 60 fps.
And just yesterday I said I wasn't going to talk about future stuff anymore
What a time to go dark eh?
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Xbox has always been built like a limited PC though. I think it's great for Microsoft to actually leverage their PC roots for their next console.A console that can play Steam games is not a console by definition, it's a branded PC....![]()
You would have thought they would learn to listen to what they are actually being told after "only 4 games", but alas.
We don't even know if that's what they are doing though. In factXbox has always been built like a limited PC though. I think it's great for Microsoft to actually leverage their PC roots for their next console.
Where's your screenshots of the many posters insisting there would be no more Xbox hardware? I guess that wasn't a priority for some reason?You would have thought they would learn to listen to what they are actually being told after "only 4 games", but alas.
Don't sweat it big PC gamer. This is only going to improve your ecosystem, right?
Where's your screenshots of the many posters insisting there would be no more Xbox hardware? I guess that wasn't a priority for some reason?![]()
Well that depends.
All out war between Windows and Linux/SteamOS wouldn't end up being for the faint of heart.
There's no coincidence that since the fall of GFWL the rise in PC gaming has been during a period when Microsoft have been largely hands-off with it.
Things have changed greatly since then. Especially when it comes to legality of closed store fronts and side loading, etc. This should be a boost for Steam as well. Linux, yeah, MS is 100% going to war with Linux.
Well if Microsoft are going to war with Linux then that means they are also going to war with Steam considering Valves current interests and tragectory.
On the other hand, if it is whatDon't give me more ammo.
I'll be the first to remind you if this doesn't end up being what you seem to think it is.
What's the alternative? Intel is about to lay off 20% of its factory workers. Would you hitch cart to that shit show?Ugh AMD…Makes sense but still ugh
Well the good news is that now you'll have more options. You can still game on Linux if you want to. It's going to be up to Steam how much they want to invest in Linux.
On the other hand, if it is whatI thinkit is then you will quietly forget about this conversation.
hardware-level x360 support somehow and im in"UNMATCHED COMPATABILITY"
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Probably you are the only one left who can still predict the MS strategy about the xbox brand. They change idea practically every week.But I was told Xbox was leaving the hardware business completely because an internal handheld that was never officially announced was sidelined.
Why do you guys not want competition, but want a console monopoly?
Because they are Sony fanbois, duh.Why do you guys not want competition, but want a console monopoly?
The Series X/S generation is all but lost, console sales have flat-lined for them. So yeah, the sooner the better.Yeah, I think Xbox will have about a one-year head start. Just like with the Xbox 360 back in the day.
You would have thought they would learn to listen to what they are actually being told after "only 4 games", but alas.
The Games Showcase is about Games first and foremost, and a product-less promise of something 2+ years down the line without anything tangible to show would've been a distraction from the games. We don't need time spent during the 2025 Games Showcase to talk about some theoretical early days corporate planning for an integrated PC-like Windows-based Xbox-branded console box launching in holiday 2027.There were zero doubts on my end but I had an unfair advantage and thats all I will say![]()
The partnership is "to co-engineer silicon across a portfolio of devices including our next generation xbox".
That doesn't sound like they're just gonna do xbox branded PC's, but that's just me.
Haters are free to believe whatevs.![]()
Last I checked, ps5 with a disc drive is the same price as Series x without.
And both charge 50$ premium over digital edition.
Also Sony is not the one that charges 500$ for storage expansion this gen.
Future, who knows.
I don't see any reason that with the proper prioritization and optimization, that the ~2027 Series X successor can't be a Windows-based device, simply far more powerful than the ROG Xbox Ally X, because it doesn't need to have the ability to operate portably on battery. I feel like that's the direction this is all going. Xbox console + Xbox PC finally merge into one unified device/library, and they solve the issue of native back compat so the console library can fully move over.Desktop PC, handheld PC, and console
Ok??Sorry, but I can only respond with LOL good sir...
The cope and "never surrender " mentality displayed by some of you is just something else...
War never changes eh ?![]()
Highly probable.Desktop PC, handheld PC, and console
You break through the TV when you throw the controllerBreakthrough gameplay? Please explain Sarah.
Thats freaking xbox twitter announcing it like nobody's business.
Ignore him, he makes victim posts when people attack PS and says shit like "waah I hate all this fanboy warring, make it stop!" and then goes on the attack of Xbox and fans on the other side of his mouth.Ok??
Then, what an example of hypocrisy when you're able to see console wars among people who prefer that XBOX continues to bet on hardware and backwards compatibility... while you don't mention those who made fun of it every day, insulted other users, and even opened threads congratulating each other and uncorking champagne against the possibility of this announcement...
Neogaf