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[Mister Wolf]

While a lack of direct competitor for PlayStations is a concern; I for one welcome the end of the PS vs XB Console Wars.

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Now what else can we use as an excuse to fight...?!

You'll always have condescending remarks from us rich PC users.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

While a lack of direct competitor for PlayStations is a concern; I for one welcome the end of the PS vs XB Console Wars.

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Now what else can we use as an excuse to fight...?!

I thought about my lack of purpose once the war was over but then I found the answer

I'll just continue stepping on the post-war victims

 

[MarkMe2525]

I thought about my lack of purpose once the war was over but then I found the answer

I'll just continue stepping on the post-war victims

You would have time to begin assembling your Sony suit.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Even if it was something they were planning, I'm going to assume they would slowly groom their fanbase towards the idea of it, more than just ripping the bandaid off.

It sure looks that way from what I'm seeing, even the hardcore Xbox fans on this site are much more calm about the prospect now then they would have been even a year ago. Look at this thread for proof.

There has definitely been an acceleration in this theme being a part of any PR lately, mixed with what we know about how sales are going, I'm expecting things to change at Xbox.

And you know how Phil loves to get in front of a camera and give interviews or send Tweets

 

[reinking]

I can't speak for Starfield but I know he has wanted their MP games on PS for a long time and Gamepass on PS of which Sony had said no

I have brought that subject up many times over the years here and on a few occasions I guess got reported for console warring for saying it

I remember you saying it more than once. The problem is Sony was never going to allow Game Pass on PlayStation. Unlikely, but I hope Phil writes a book when he leaves Xbox/MS. I would really like to read about how much the external/media persona conflicted with internal/corporate decisions.

 

[Gojiira]

Thing is, Im not paying for games like Hifi Rush when franchises that SHOULD be multiplat like Fallout and Elder Scrolls are held hostage…nah you can keep them Fill, either go full third party or dont bother at all…

 

[Sanepar]

What the big 3 takes mean? It looks like it will be something around bethesda games. Probably timed exclusives.

 

[FIREKNIGHT2029]

 

[solidus12]

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Marching orders came through

 

[Gambit2483]

If you believe the "insider" Jez...

 

[Draugoth]

If you believe the "insider" Jez...

He has his sources so it's possible

Edit: This is from December

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Imagine spending all that money on aquisitions and only then realising you've not sold any consoles and there is no one to buy the games....clever bunch over there at Xbox for sure,lol.

Did it ever occur to people that MS might have made those acquisitions in preparation of going multiplatform?

 

[Crayon]

My most anticipated game has nothing on this lol.

 

[reinking]

Did it ever occur to people that MS might have made those acquisitions in preparation of going multiplatform?

Did it occur to MS to bring that point up to the courts during the acquisition?

 

[Krieger]

Can't wait when the most hardcore Xbox fanboys (read shills) start to turn against Xbox, and all of this because of an acquisition these fanboys (read shills) where cheering on so much. Irony knocked on their door, with a jackhammer.

 

[TheThreadsThatBindUs]

Did it ever occur to people that MS might have made those acquisitions in preparation of going multiplatform?

No, because we have all the internal communication from within MS from the FDA legal proceedings. We know precisely what their motivation was for their acquisitions and it wasn't anything to do with going MP... quite the opposite.

 

[LordBlodgett]

I think both Sony and Microsoft are headed this way. especially with GAAS games. Sony only has Destiny that is multiplatform now, but I would bet money that some of the GAAS games they've been working on will be multiplatform. Microsoft already has Minecraft, Elder Scrolls Online, Fallout 76, and now COD. My guess is that they are going to go this route for Halo Infinite, Sea of Thieves, and Grounded. They have also already put their exclusives on other consoles (especially the Switch) with the Ori games and Cuphead,

What this means for the console I don't know. I currently have 90% of my modern games on Xbox, so if they get rid of console I'm going to be pissed, but they have to keep some exclusives in order to sell the console, don't they? Maybe for their multiplayer games they give special benefits (skins, currency, etc) to Gamepass subscribers so people want to continue playing on Xbox in regions where Xbox is big. They could also keep the exclusive advertising rights, but I still think this will hurt their console sales......

It kind of feels like they are just winging it........

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Did it occur to MS to bring that point up to the courts during the acquisition?

I'm convinced MS wants COD exclusive to GamePass as leverage to bring GP to Playstation eventually.

If that doesn't work out, try a different approach.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

No, because we have all the internal communication from within MS from the FDA legal proceedings. We know precisely what their motivation was for their acquisitions and it wasn't anything to do with going MP... quite the opposite.

ABK was never going to make a difference. Not even if COD was exclusive to Xbox.

 

[bitbydeath]

So basically what this says:

 

[SenkiDala]

That guy seriously.

The mentality of a school playground fanboy in an adult body.

Step 1) "no it won't happen".
Step 2) "ok it will happen and it sucks, fuck you MS"
Step 3) "yes it will happen but it was to be expected, as Phil always said, and it totally makes sense, that's great for gamers".


Damn, sadness.

Mentally twisting reality and your expectations/desires, to make you accept and even enjoy decisions that at first you were totally against with. That's really sad.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

The interview sounds like they think they can have their cookie and eat it too. That making games multiplat won’t affect their hardware sales in a significant way. I don’t believe they can.

It’s something Sony would be able to get away with because of their huge momentum. Xbox has the opposite of momentum right now.

Here is the video. Starts around an hour in.

they are so damn fuuuuuucked

MS wants to apply their "Telemetry, metrics, statistics" driven approach into videogame. Xbox division is going to implode.

 

[EverydayBeast]

Exclusive games is a gaming tradition, the exact same thing happened to sega.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

Until you see games like Starfield, Blade, Forza, Flight Sim, Fable, or Indiana Jones on Playstation, there is nothing for Xbox console warriors to worry about.

Starfield may be on PS as early as Fall. One year after Xbox....prediction.

 

[Mister Wolf]

Starfield may be on PS as early as Fall. One year after Xbox....prediction.

 

[Oppoi]

The port begging for Avowed is going to be seven hells for the mods.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

The port begging for Avowed is going to be seven hells for the mods.

Meh, I wonder if the Playstation installbase is really desperate to play Xbox games.

Personally, I'd love to play Hellblade 2, but outside of that, MS can keep their games.

 

[Darsxx82]

Understanding that it was true. At this point it is better to wait for the officialdom and the explanations that will certainly be necessary. And of course they must be clear and concise.

At this point, the arrival of games that were exclusive from Xbox to PS5 and Switch can be taken for granted and we just need to know the terms or red lines, if any.

My bet or bingo card based on the tone of what was transmitted ("it's not that bad, you'll be fine" or "when it's explained it will be understood"...):

-They are going to go for the "case by case" and try to convince why it is something good for everyone. For example "more people playing", "expand the potential of IPs", the need to make the division profitable or extra returns to finance sequels or new projects for Xbox ....or to pay for the arrival of 3rd party games to Gamepass (FF series?)... "First/better on Xbox".

- The corresponding doubts and anger of XSeries users and fans of the brand will be attempted to be redirected in several ways:

a) They will officially announce a roadmap for the hardware and plans for the near future and nextGen (new controller, Xseries revisions, NextGen...). This will dispel the fears generated by the speakers who ensure that XBOX will become like EA, TakeTwo, etc. and will stop manufacturing consoles and renounce its own ecosystem.
Sarah Bond is there the head of hardware...

b) MS will set a date for the arrival of ABK games to Gamepass.

c) MS will invite fans to the "E3" Conference where there will be "exclusives" and big announcements (FFVII remake?, FFXVI?...)

I can only think of this as the way they could come out better, understanding that it will be impossible to come out without damage.

Any other situation where those issues that generate discomfort and concern are not resolved and properly defined will be disastrous. First for the users and fans of the brand, and equally for the credibility of the XBOX brand for whatever their future vision of gaming business and I dont think MS is interested in that situation.

 

[DJ12]

Meh, I wonder if the Playstation installbase is really desperate to play Xbox games.

Personally, I'd love to play Hellblade 2, but outside of that, MS can keep their games.

Personally I cannot wait for the time I can call their recent output trash without having the arguments excused as console warring.

What a day when starfield can just be accepted as the shit it is.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Any other situation where those issues that generate discomfort and concern are not resolved and properly defined will be disastrous. First for the users and fans of the brand, and equally for the credibility of the XBOX brand for whatever their future vision of gaming business and I dont think MS is interested in that situation.

the xbox brand reputation is already in the gutter. these shills are truly doing the heavy lifting for the community and the brand.

whatever their plan is to alleviate the concerns. One thing still remains....actually deliver great games....and xbox's track record has been shit, and things in this regards are going be hell for them to figure out in the next 2-4 years.

 

[Fabieter]

Mostly gaas and games that underpeformed, no day one games.

 

[LordCBH]

Until you see games like Starfield, Blade, Forza, Flight Sim, Fable, or Indiana Jones on Playstation, there is nothing for Xbox console warriors to worry about.

To be fair, Xbox has flat out refused to confirm Blade is Xbox and PC only as far as I can remember.

 

[mckmas8808]

So basically what this says:

This dude has been right so far. I can't believe Bethesda and ID's software next game are coming to PS5 also.

 

[Mister Wolf]

To be fair, Xbox has flat out refused to confirm Blade is Xbox and PC only as far as I can remember.

Ok. You guys can keep doing the same song and dance you did with Starfield as many times as you want. Make sure you do it for Avowed too.

 

[Astray]

Phil has wanted multiplatforms for a while....?

Why did he make Bethesda exclusive then? I mean, he's the top guy of Xbox....did someone above him say no?

He wanted to create bargaining power to crowbar gamepass into the Playstation ecosystem.

That obviously failed, and going full exclusive didn't help the tanking Xbox consoles sales, so now they have to do something to boost ROI or otherwise they're gonna have to take a sledgehammer to all their studios and look like far greater bad guys than they already do.

 

[LordCBH]

Ok. You guys can keep doing the same song and dance you did with Starfield as many times as you want. Make sure you do it for Avowed too.

 

[Mister Wolf]

Not upset. I enjoyed the buildup and entitled posts about the game needing to be on Playstation all the way until the balloon got popped. Some people are gluttons for punishment.

 

[bitbydeath]

Understanding that it was true. At this point it is better to wait for the officialdom and the explanations that will certainly be necessary. And of course they must be clear and concise.

At this point, the arrival of games that were exclusive from Xbox to PS5 and Switch can be taken for granted and we just need to know the terms or red lines, if any.

My bet or bingo card based on the tone of what was transmitted ("it's not that bad, you'll be fine" or "when it's explained it will be understood"...):

-They are going to go for the "case by case" and try to convince why it is something good for everyone. For example "more people playing", "expand the potential of IPs", the need to make the division profitable or extra returns to finance sequels or new projects for Xbox ....or to pay for the arrival of 3rd party games to Gamepass (FF series?)... "First/better on Xbox".

- The corresponding doubts and anger of XSeries users and fans of the brand will be attempted to be redirected in several ways:

a) They will officially announce a roadmap for the hardware and plans for the near future and nextGen (new controller, Xseries revisions, NextGen...). This will dispel the fears generated by the speakers who ensure that XBOX will become like EA, TakeTwo, etc. and will stop manufacturing consoles and renounce its own ecosystem.
Sarah Bond is there the head of hardware...

b) MS will set a date for the arrival of ABK games to Gamepass.

c) MS will invite fans to the "E3" Conference where there will be "exclusives" and big announcements (FFVII remake?, FFXVI?...)

I can only think of this as the way they could come out better, understanding that it will be impossible to come out without damage.

Any other situation where those issues that generate discomfort and concern are not resolved and properly defined will be disastrous. First for the users and fans of the brand, and equally for the credibility of the XBOX brand for whatever their future vision of gaming business and I dont think MS is interested in that situation.

I think new developments will come to all platforms but older games and those nearing completion will be case by case as that takes further development effort.

 

[Mr.ODST]

Only good thing to come from this is Halo's playerbase shooting right up

 

[Kssio_Aug]

It's funny to see the complete 180 in the argument about PC not being a 'valid' concurrent platform, as soon as Sony started to release some of their big IPs on PC.

And about Xbox games coming to whatever platform, I don't really care. I buy Xbox because I like their system, and because I like Game Pass. I couldn't care less if other people can enjoy the same games on whichever machine they want.

Maybe with this eventually people will stop nitpicking about some of their 1st party games, that are actually great besides so much harsh criticism just because of console war.

 

[bitbydeath]

Ok. You guys can keep doing the same song and dance you did with Starfield as many times as you want. Make sure you do it for Avowed too.

 

[TheGodfather07]

Imagine the meltdown when Microsoft announce a first party game will be launching on PS on release day. Did xbox fans really think Microsoft were gonna indefinitely send out their games to just die? Xbox is a failing platform and that isn't changing. Microsoft know it. PC isn't enough. They need PS and switch. Time to put your software on the consoles people actually want to buy.

 

[Deerock71]

If Sea of Thieves is a Switch 2 launch title then Rare will be back home.

 

[jroc74]

This dude has been right so far. I can't believe Bethesda and ID's software next game are coming to PS5 also.

Yeah, its time to start taking that rumor alot more serious.

 

[TrebleShot]

Whats the big deal here? as soon as xbox tried to get game pass on PS5 and was rejected this was going to happen, essentially boosting revenues for MS.

 

[balls of snow]

Halo Infinite on the ps5.
Thanks.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Halo Infinite on the ps5.
Thanks.

Careful, those kind of posts gets you reported

 

[hinch7]

Guessing after Bethesda's recent blunders.. how much they spend in ABK. The declining hardware sales and interest in the brand. On top of the stagnation of uptake on GP subscribers. That Nadela and the board said no more to that money sink.

 

[balls of snow]

Careful, those kind of posts gets you reported

Hahaha..but rooting for Sea of Thieves on ps5 wont. Also highlights the kind of clusterfuck ms is gonna navigate once it all comes out.
Anyways, Halo Infinite mp makes the most sense since its already free to play.