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[Lord Malachite]

This was me. I was a massive Xbox gamer from the OG Xbox days. Got the 360 and I purchased all my games there (I had a PS3 as well but the 360 was FAR superior).

Come the time for the Xbone reveal I was still so delusional that I pre ordered and picked it up on launch day with around 6 or so games! I didn't pre order a PS4. Even knowing that Microsoft completely shit the bed on the 360 with Kinect and they were doing the same on the Xbone I STILL pre ordered that fucker.

About a year into the life of the Bone and PS4 I decided to get a PS4. It was shortly after that I migrated over to the Playstation camp and really left behind Xbox. And it was tough. And still is! I loved the Xbox brand. I want them to succeed but NOT with Gamepass. I loathed every time I turned on my Series X seeing Gamepass ads everywhere.

If Microsoft had been smart and started to foster relationships with devs to build up quality 1st party studios during the 360 days, they wouldn't need this rental service and they would be neck and neck or even ahead of Playstation!

As it is, they wouldn't know what they are doing and loyalists like me, who lived and breathed Xbox have now migrated to Playstation and PC (and Switch). I cannot support a company who gave me so much and then slowly took it all away cause they didn't know how to manage themselves well enough.

It's a pretty sad state of affairs but it's the truth. Xbox consistently made wrong moves. Their greatest time was about 20 years ago, 2005 - 2007 when the 360 launched strong, was attracting third party exclusives, games were performing better on it over PS3 while being a cheaper box. Everything was coming up Xbox.

Then the RROD hit and they just didn't handle it properly. They did denial and chipset refreshes that didn't address the core issue until it became so large the public outcry forced them to do a massive and prohibitively expensive mea culpa and let people send in their dead and dying boxes for repair and replacement. $1.1 billion that could have spent to press the advantage they held over PS3. Meanwhile, Sony was simultaneously picking themselves up from their PS3 faceplant and they began to steal all of Xbox's momentum. And once they had it, they never gave it back.

Nothing Xbox has done for the last ten years has been a move that turned out good. Not everything was a catastrophic decision, but none of them panned out in any relevant way. I don't really fault Xbox for attempting to innovate. With Microsoft behind them, if anyone was going to change the energy, they were. But at the end of the day, their greatest gamble, Gamepass, just isn't bearing the fruit that they thought it would. Largely because most people don't consider video games disposable like movies and TV shows.

Most people don't mind not owning a film or series that they stream from a service like Netflix. They binge watch a film or TV series and then they move on. Games aren't like that. Sure, some gamers will plow through a game quickly, but most like to savor a game and spend a good deal of time on it, even single player "one and done" games. Even after it's over, many people like to have the game in their library to play again sometime or share with someone else. Games are something people in general prefer to own than to rent. On top of this, if you give someone a catalog of 100 movies and someone else a catalog of 100 video games, who is going to be finished first? Movies and shows take considerably less time. They are passive experiences, and people often use second screens while viewing them, multitasking. You can't do that when playing a game. It's interactive, so you're either playing it or you're not. The model just isn't ever going to have the mass appeal of Netflix.

Even Xbox seems to realize it has backed the wrong house and is now pivoting to publishing, where the most revenue is always to be had in the gaming space. Xbox as we know it is all but dead, but the strength of their studios and publishing arm will long outlive the unnecessary hardware.

 

[Humdinger]

Even though MS said "no red tape" I honestly do believe they draw the line at critical identity games, can you honestly see Sony letting any forza on PS? GT's direct competition? I think MS will do the ones that make the most sense for them (brand wise), not necessarily biggest budget games cause I think something like fable would cost a ton but I just don't see it on ps considering how long the fan base has been clamoring for one, could be wrong though

I do however think most of the publisher games will be multiplat (bethedsa/Acti) but I think majority of Xbox game studios games will remain exclusive to where game pass exist, but we shall wait and see

Phil said "No red lines," then immediately followed that with a reference to the next Halo game. That doesn't mean Halo and other historically traditional Xbox franchises will come to PS, but they are all under consideration. If anything, Phil has downplayed their multiplatform moves all along, so for him to say "no red lines" is significant.

But I do agree that there is a difference between porting, say, Indiana Jones to PS and porting a traditional pillar franchise like Halo or Gears. The message is different. MS understands that and will take it into account. They will be more hesitant to send the pillar franchises over.

I'm not sure about Forza. You said "any Forza." Well, the standard Forza could potentially compete with GT, you're right about that, but the Forza Horizon series would be a nice addition to the PS lineup. Sony doesn't have any high-profile arcade racers (apart from what third parties produce), so there wouldn't be any competition there.

I fully expect Fable to be ported. The financial incentive is just too strong, and the budget is too big to ignore that. MS has boxed themselves into a corner as far as that goes. You give big-budget games away for cheap on Game Pass, you've got to make your money back somehow, and it isn't going to be from Xbox owners. I could see there being a delay, but I'm almost sure it'll come to PS eventually.

 

[Lord Malachite]

Phil said "No red lines," then immediately followed that with a reference to the next Halo game. That doesn't mean Halo and other historically traditional Xbox franchises will come to PS, but they are all under consideration. If anything, Phil has downplayed their multiplatform moves all along, so for him to say "no red lines" is significant.

But I do agree that there is a difference between porting, say, Indiana Jones to PS and porting a traditional pillar franchise like Halo or Gears. The message is different. MS understands that and will take it into account. They will be more hesitant to send the pillar franchises over.

I'm not sure about Forza. You said "any Forza." Well, the standard Forza could potentially compete with GT, you're right about that, but the Forza Horizon series would be a nice addition to the PS lineup. Sony doesn't have any high-profile arcade racers (apart from what third parties produce), so there wouldn't be any competition there.

I fully expect Fable to be ported. The financial incentive is just too strong, and the budget is too big to ignore that. MS has boxed themselves into a corner as far as that goes. You give big-budget games away for cheap on Game Pass, you've got to make your money back somehow, and it isn't going to be from Xbox owners. I could see there being a delay, but I'm almost sure it'll come to PS eventually.

At this point I don't even think there's a red line for Gears or Halo. More that I think these will be some of the later things to go, when the Xbox platform is winding itself down. Games like Fable are a no brainer. As was stated, the cost is just too high not to put it on PS5. The long and short of it is, the Xbox and PC audience alone is not enough to support the budgets of AAA and AAAA games. Prior to Gamepass, yes, a very popular title could find profitability on those two platforms and forego the PS money. Those days are over. Gamepass has made Xbox software sales virtually non-existent. PC can't make up that deficit entirely on its own.

Will Master Chief debut on PlayStation in 2025? No, probably not. By end of generation? Significantly more likely. At this point I'm pretty sure even Phil realizes that the future of Xbox is not as a hardware platform but as a gargantuan publisher. The irony being that if they bow out of hardware entirely, their sales on PS and PC, even giving 30% to Sony and Valve, may ultimately be more profitable for them in the gaming space than Xbox itself has been in a very, very long time. Possibly ever.

 

[Moridianae]

At this point I don't even think there's a red line for Gears or Halo. More that I think these will be some of the later things to go, when the Xbox platform is winding itself down. Games like Fable are a no brainer. As was stated, the cost is just too high not to put it on PS5. The long and short of it is, the Xbox and PC audience alone is not enough to support the budgets of AAA and AAAA games. Prior to Gamepass, yes, a very popular title could find profitability on those two platforms and forego the PS money. Those days are over. Gamepass has made Xbox software sales virtually non-existent. PC can't make up that deficit entirely on its own.

Will Master Chief debut on PlayStation in 2025? No, probably not. By end of generation? Significantly more likely. At this point I'm pretty sure even Phil realizes that the future of Xbox is not as a hardware platform but as a gargantuan publisher. The irony being that if they bow out of hardware entirely, their sales on PS and PC, even giving 30% to Sony and Valve, may ultimately be more profitable for them in the gaming space than Xbox itself has been in a very, very long time. Possibly ever.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Halo: MCC show up first, possibly even next year. A lot of people still hold the original series in high regard.

It'd be a big shock but it may bring a lot of players into the system like me, who loved Halo, but left Xbox behind some time ago.

Easy money, not unlike Sea of Thieves. The only issue comes from the precedent it sets--old game or not, the instant one of the Big 4 shows up(Gears, Halo, Forza, Fable) it creates the permanent perception that there's no reason to own Xbox hardware, which seems their goal anyway.

 

[SegaSnatcher]

Seriously, what is the incentive to buy Xbox hardware at this point?

 

[coachmcguirk91]

Seriously, what is the incentive to buy Xbox hardware at this point?

If you are a console gamer, Gamepass. 250$ for a Xbox Series S may be a worthy investment if you game a lot. Microsoft is probably releasing 5-6 1st party games day 1 on Gamepass every year for the foreseeable future. Depending on how many games you play, this could save someone 500-1000$ by playing on Gamepass instead of buying games full boat. Potentially saving 50$ for every game that comes to Gamepasss

I'm playing Xbox games through Gamepass on cloud, currently, but I may get a Series S on the cheap, solely because of Gamepass

 

[Humdinger]

The only issue comes from the precedent it sets--old game or not, the instant one of the Big 4 shows up(Gears, Halo, Forza, Fable) it creates the permanent perception that there's no reason to own Xbox hardware, which seems their goal anyway.

True of Halo first and foremost, Gears and Forza as well. I'm not so sure about Fable, though. Fable 3, the last real Fable game, was 2010. That is ancient history for most people, several generations in the past. 15 years later, we have an attempted reboot by a new developer. I don't think it's as strongly associated with MS as the other three - at least not anymore.

Seriously, what is the incentive to buy Xbox hardware at this point?

For new players, it would probably be 1) access to GP (assuming the person is a console gamer, not on PC), and 2) access to whatever games continue to remain exclusive in the intervening years. Older Xbox players, the ones already in the system, would have additional incentives, such as access to their game library and ability to play with friends on XBL. And of course, some console gamers have brand loyalty to Xbox or just dislike Sony, which are incentives of sorts as well.

 

[Segaswirl]

Xbox has been my main platform since 2002 (Sega GT and JSRF bundle FTW) and I have a fairly big library of physical and digital games. I only own a Series X this generation and my backlog is fucking huge.

Cancelling my Game Pass Ultimate sub and selling my Series X, then starting again and while paying £60-70 for games like Indiana Jones while also paying for things like cloud saves? Just because some people are getting to play Halo decades later? That doesn't sound very appealing to me. Fuck that.

 

[Taur007]

I dunno, I don’t think Xbox/Microsoft even have “identity games” beyond Halo and maybe Gears. And I don’t think they have incentive to keep anything exclusive anymore - they’re likely just going to release almost everything everywhere day one or do what they’re doing with Indy and choose ever-smaller windows of console exclusivity, if only for the sake of “double dipping”.

Forza isn't an identity game? Literally everyone knows forza is mostly xbox same with fable, those are the 4 if anything

But on another note, I think Starfield was the exclusive/multiplat experiment.
If it moves consoles: we will keep everything exclusive
If it doesn't: ship content elsewhere, and it failed

BUT...I do not think they are that desperate yet to release everything day one or hell "everything" at all considering they still have another console coming and you can bet your sweet ass that console WILL have launch exclusives that ps won't ever see or maybe wayyy later down the line a la godfall ps4 situation. I also believe Indy was half Disney half MS, so we'll have to see how long they take with an official XGS game.

 

[YeulEmeralda]

I spent my first two generations as an Xbox guy (OG and 360), then many years afterwards on an Xbox-centric forum. So even though I don't count myself as an Xbox fan, I understand their perspective pretty well. In fact, I often get perceived as an Xbox defender when I'm just articulating reasons why people like Xbox, why Xbox isn't a POS, etc.

Brother I will always defend the OG Xbox and 360. But the Xbox One was the beginning of the end.

 

[Doctor Hades]

What happened to Xbox?

The original Xbox was late to the party but it was awesome, showcasing a Microsoft that was new to the market but willing to experiment with loads of exclusives (including SEGA) and even their own sports label. They then followed it up with the 360 which was really the peak of Xbox as a platform despite the red ring fiasco. Since the Xbox One though, the brand has just faltered to the point where the Xbox console feels completely irrelevant, especially as I can play its (few) exclusive games on my PC anyway and with better visuals and framerates.

Xbox as a console platform is pretty much dead to me and that actually saddens me because I loved the first Xbox and the 360. I don't even think GamePass is that great personally either (especially as on PC it forces me to use the terrible Xbox app) and cancelled my Ultimate subscription back in May.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

Seriously, what is the incentive to buy Xbox hardware at this point?

Better UI
Better controller
Day one games from studios like inXile, Obsidian, Playground, Double Fine, etc etc
GamePass

If you play on PC, none of that really matters, but Xbox on PC has been the case for three generations now. Nothing is changing there.

And eventually I’m sure even the non blockbuster games will hit other consoles day one.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Better UI
Better controller
Day one games from studios like inXile, Obsidian, Playground, Double Fine, etc etc
GamePass

If you play on PC, none of that really matters, but Xbox on PC has been the case for three generations now. Nothing is changing there.

And eventually I’m sure even the non blockbuster games will hit other consoles day one.

Possibly owning a large Xbox library

Don’t care about owning a PS

There really is a decent list of why people don’t make the switch, problem is being less and less holdouts on the Xbox side and can they entice more people to return

 

[gooner4life_uk]

Seriously, what is the incentive to buy Xbox hardware at this point?

Xbox All Access is like a mobile phone subscription where you get 2 years of gamepass, get to pay off the Xbox in 2 years interest free, i done that for my daughters series X just after launch, gamepass was a big incentive for a then 5 year old who just wanted lots of games rather than being so concerned about the quality.

I'd probably do it again, but i won't buy games on that platform.

 

[gooner4life_uk]

Better UI
Better controller
Day one games from studios like inXile, Obsidian, Playground, Double Fine, etc etc
GamePass

If you play on PC, none of that really matters, but Xbox on PC has been the case for three generations now. Nothing is changing there.

And eventually I’m sure even the non blockbuster games will hit other consoles day one.

Let's be real, the UI is a mess, the controller is terrible, I buy my daughter a new Xbox controller about once every 2 months, it's noisy, too small, generally poor quality.

 

[kaizenkko]

Better UI
Better controller
Day one games from studios like inXile, Obsidian, Playground, Double Fine, etc etc
GamePass

If you play on PC, none of that really matters, but Xbox on PC has been the case for three generations now. Nothing is changing there.

And eventually I’m sure even the non blockbuster games will hit other consoles day one.

Dualsense is years ahead of Xbox controller. Not only because of the haptics and adaptive triggers, but it still have built-in microphone, rechargeable battery and gyro aiming. It is objectly a much more advance controller.

And Xbox UI is actually a big piece of shit.

 

[LordCBH]

Let's be real, the UI is a mess, the controller is terrible, I buy my daughter a new Xbox controller about once every 2 months, it's noisy, too small, generally poor quality.

I’m getting ready to replace my series X controller I use for my pc again. After a year of relatively heavy use the sticks are stiff and squeaky and the right trigger is sticking. It’ll be my third one for my pc now…

 

[gooner4life_uk]

I’m getting ready to replace my series X controller I use for my pc again. After a year of relatively heavy use the sticks are stiff and squeaky and the right trigger is sticking. It’ll be my third one for my pc now…

Just get a dualsense dude, you can use steam to make it work with all games, even where Microsoft don't allow it on gamepass.

 

[LordCBH]

Just get a dualsense dude, you can use steam to make it work with all games, even where Microsoft don't allow it on gamepass.

Do pc games have support for stuff like the adaptive triggers? And will it work wirelessly?

 

[Wolzard]

I thought it was already a confirmed fact. Microsoft is so irregular in its actions that it's kind of pathetic for a company of its size.

 

[gooner4life_uk]

Do pc games have support for stuff like the adaptive triggers? And will it work wirelessly?

Some games do, and it will work wireless via Bluetooth, I use it wireless with the built in Bluetooth on my mobo sometimes.

 

[Kerotan]

It's a pretty sad state of affairs but it's the truth. Xbox consistently made wrong moves. Their greatest time was about 20 years ago, 2005 - 2007 when the 360 launched strong, was attracting third party exclusives, games were performing better on it over PS3 while being a cheaper box. Everything was coming up Xbox.

Then the RROD hit and they just didn't handle it properly. They did denial and chipset refreshes that didn't address the core issue until it became so large the public outcry forced them to do a massive and prohibitively expensive mea culpa and let people send in their dead and dying boxes for repair and replacement. $1.1 billion that could have spent to press the advantage they held over PS3. Meanwhile, Sony was simultaneously picking themselves up from their PS3 faceplant and they began to steal all of Xbox's momentum. And once they had it, they never gave it back.

Nothing Xbox has done for the last ten years has been a move that turned out good. Not everything was a catastrophic decision, but none of them panned out in any relevant way. I don't really fault Xbox for attempting to innovate. With Microsoft behind them, if anyone was going to change the energy, they were. But at the end of the day, their greatest gamble, Gamepass, just isn't bearing the fruit that they thought it would. Largely because most people don't consider video games disposable like movies and TV shows.

Most people don't mind not owning a film or series that they stream from a service like Netflix. They binge watch a film or TV series and then they move on. Games aren't like that. Sure, some gamers will plow through a game quickly, but most like to savor a game and spend a good deal of time on it, even single player "one and done" games. Even after it's over, many people like to have the game in their library to play again sometime or share with someone else. Games are something people in general prefer to own than to rent. On top of this, if you give someone a catalog of 100 movies and someone else a catalog of 100 video games, who is going to be finished first? Movies and shows take considerably less time. They are passive experiences, and people often use second screens while viewing them, multitasking. You can't do that when playing a game. It's interactive, so you're either playing it or you're not. The model just isn't ever going to have the mass appeal of Netflix.

Even Xbox seems to realize it has backed the wrong house and is now pivoting to publishing, where the most revenue is always to be had in the gaming space. Xbox as we know it is all but dead, but the strength of their studios and publishing arm will long outlive the unnecessary hardware.

Good post but even as a playstation fan I'd say Xbox did a great job regarding games up until 2010. But we're now 14 years later and things look bleak.

I thought it was already a confirmed fact. Microsoft is so irregular in its actions that it's kind of pathetic for a company of its size.

And that's why the biggest companies in the world acquiring other mid sized companies isn't a good thing. The purchasing of publishers in the gaming industry is incredibly destructive.

 

[LordCBH]

Some games do, and it will work wireless via Bluetooth, I use it wireless with the built in Bluetooth on my mobo sometimes.

I’ll probably nab one then. The Dualsense is a really comfortable controller.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

Dualsense is years ahead of Xbox controller. Not only because of the haptics and adaptive triggers, but it still have built-in microphone, rechargeable battery and gyro aiming. It is objectly a much more advance controller.

And Xbox UI is actually a big piece of shit.

Let's be real, the UI is a mess, the controller is terrible, I buy my daughter a new Xbox controller about once every 2 months, it's noisy, too small, generally poor quality.

Cool opinions

 

[Humdinger]

Brother I will always defend the OG Xbox and 360. But the Xbox One was the beginning of the end.

Yup, that's when I jumped ship. Well, actually, it was a little before that. About midway through the 360's lifecycle - about 2010 or 2011 - MS shifted their focus away from putting out great games and towards Kinect. I'd say that was the beginning of the end, at least from my perspective. MS wanted to capture the casual audience and dominate the living room. Wii had hit big, and they were chasing the motion control trend. As a result of those priorities shifting, the flow of great exclusives started to dry up. After a while of that, I decided to switch to late-stage PS3.

Even as a PS4 and PS5 guy, I kept waiting for MS to give me reason to pick up an Xbox, even as a secondary console. I had good memories of them, so I was hoping they would turn it around. But that never happened.

 

[Zacfoldor]

Cool opinions

I will say that the Xbox controller is very dated compared to the Switch Pro controller, much less the dualsense.

I just assumed Xbox never updated it so they could save money.

 

[Humdinger]

Cool opinions

To be fair, a lot of people do like the Xbox controller and particularly the offset thumbsticks. When I switched from Xbox 360 to PS3, my main difficulty was adjusting to the Dual Sense. I thought, "What is this little toy I'm holding?" I eventually got used to it.

Sony has come a long way with their controllers, though. The current Dual Sense is really good.

 

[mayham2199]

Xbox has been my main platform since 2002 (Sega GT and JSRF bundle FTW) and I have a fairly big library of physical and digital games. I only own a Series X this generation and my backlog is fucking huge.

Cancelling my Game Pass Ultimate sub and selling my Series X, then starting again and while paying £60-70 for games like Indiana Jones while also paying for things like cloud saves? Just because some people are getting to play Halo decades later? That doesn't sound very appealing to me. Fuck that.

In your position I probably wouldn't leave either. I wouldn't be purchasing games on Xbox anymore though. Then again I only have like 5 games in my backlog that I want to carry over with the real possibility I will play them again so even then I still might leave. Money isn't an issue for me I just want access to the software of games I want.

 

[Deleted member 848825]

To each their own in relation to controllers etc. But citing the UI as a reason to stay with Xbox is just wow. Its permanently got a big chunk of the home screen as adverts now and has actually had customisation options removed. Whilst also forcing tons of wank on the screen, if you dare scroll downwards. Its the worst its ever been. And it went totally against all the feedback given during the insiders program. For me its a classic example of why Xbox are where they are today.

 

[Mr Hyde]

Cool opinions

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

I will say that the Xbox controller is very dated compared to the Switch Pro controller, much less the dualsense.

I just assumed Xbox never updated it so they could save money.

Without a doubt the DS is more advanced but still a group of us that prefer their layout of the Xbox controller

Plus people like me turn off the DS features anyhow because when I play shooters I dont want any of that extra feedback

 

[Fess]

Just saw this, sorry for posting warrior tweets but I thought it was interesting, and I love the movie

Is this correct? Without the ABK acquisition Microsoft would’ve been at a better spot regarding Xbox and not having to go third party?

 

[sendit]

Without a doubt the DS is more advanced but still a group of us that prefer their layout of the Xbox controller

Plus people like me turn off the DS features anyhow because when I play shooters I dont want any of that extra feedback

Didnt you say a few post above that you dont own a PS?

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Didnt you say a few post above that you dont own a PS?

I have owned every PS and now rocking the pro

Oh I see where you might get that from, I was just adding to the list of why someone wouldn’t stick with Xbox

 

[jm89]

Just saw this, sorry for posting warrior tweets but I thought it was interesting, and I love the movie

Is this correct? Without the ABK acquisition Microsoft would’ve been at a better spot regarding Xbox and not having to go third party?

Ok that was funny. Got a cackle out of me.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Just saw this, sorry for posting warrior tweets but I thought it was interesting, and I love the movie

Is this correct? Without the ABK acquisition Microsoft would’ve been at a better spot regarding Xbox and not having to go third party?

Isn't he effectively poking fun at himself?

Self-depreciating humor, I can get behind that.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Isn't he effectively poking fun at himself?

Self-depreciating humor, I can get behind that.

When they thought ABK stuff would flood Gamepass and possibly become exclusive but then marching orders came down the pipeline

 

[HeWhoWalks]

Dualsense is years ahead of Xbox controller. Not only because of the haptics and adaptive triggers, but it still have built-in microphone, rechargeable battery and gyro aiming. It is objectly a much more advance controller.

And Xbox UI is actually a big piece of shit.

Agreed 100%. Xbox UI is ass and has been for sometime. The controller is also far behind the DualSense. It’s an updated X1 pad and little else.

 

[Sweden85]

Many don’t understand this list though

I totally get it, my son will never leave Xbox and has no desire to ever own a PS

My sons will never leave PS either..they love the ecosystems and none of their friends play on Xbox.

 

[LordCBH]

Has anybody checked on our boy SenjutsuSage? Is he ok?

 

[cireza]

Seriously, what is the incentive to buy Xbox hardware at this point?

People that already have a digital library are in a sense trapped in the the ecosystem.

Otherwise, there is absolutely no reason to pick Xbox over PS now that all Xbox games are coming to PS, as PS library will by default include more games and you won't miss any.

 

[cireza]

Is this correct? Without the ABK acquisition Microsoft would’ve been at a better spot regarding Xbox and not having to go third party?

I would say he is right (not that I care). You are mixing Xbox as a business and the current player base though.

Are Xbox in a bad situation ? My bet is that they have never made so much money.

Thing is they are alienating their console user-base as a side-effect, but this is to their benefit. The only losers here are the current console players, as inevitably, this will lead to a shrinking of this specific market.

The risk they are taking though is losing their royalties if people do not use massively the Xbox platform on whatever hardware they push it.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Has anybody checked on our boy SenjutsuSage? Is he ok?

If MS tells him he is ok he will be ok, if they tell him to panic he will be in full blown anxiety mode

 

[drganon]

Has anybody checked on our boy SenjutsuSage? Is he ok?

He's probably writing to his congressman/ Senator as we speak.

 

[DeepEnigma]

He's probably writing to his congressman/ Senator as we speak.

 

[Fess]

Isn't he effectively poking fun at himself?

Self-depreciating humor, I can get behind that.

Himself and the whole core fan base. It’s straightforward, going by the movie it’s about 2024 Xbox fans learning that the ABK deal caused Xbox to get into a bad spot and then going back and telling 2023 Xbox fans that they shouldn’t wish for the ABK deal to close. Or so I see it.

 

[LordCBH]

He's probably writing to his congressman/ Senator as we speak.

Dear Congressman Bozo,
Please require every home in the United States to purchase one Xbox Series S or one Xbox Series X per member of the household. Please also require every home purchase GamePass Ultimate 1 Year Subscription. Failure to do so is LITERAL GENOCIDE.
Written on an Xbox,
SenjutsuSage

 

[Fess]

I would say he is right (not that I care). You are mixing Xbox as a business and the current player base though.

Are Xbox in a bad situation ? My bet is that they have never made so much money.

Thing is they are alienating their console user-base as a side-effect, but this is to their benefit. The only losers here are the current console players, as inevitably, this will lead to a shrinking of this specific market.

The risk they are taking though is losing their royalties if people do not use massively the Xbox platform on whatever hardware they push it.

They make money but they haven’t thought it through. The ”This is an Xbox” strategy is really a blatant lie, one that will rip away people’s library of purchases. I really don’t expect them to ever give people access to their whole Xbox library anywhere but on whatever Xbox they still own. If you power on your Series X you can play old XBLA games from the 360 days or insert a disc from past consoles and enjoy that game as if you still had the old consoles, sometimes even with doubled framerates. On PC there are no XBLA games and the discs can’t be read. MS might do streaming as some sort of workaround for old games but tbh it’s awful and no solution for any enthusiast.

But ”YAY Xbox is everywhere now!” or something…

 

[SegaManAU]

Done with Xbox after this gen.

It should be studied how they have handled great IPs, either leaving them to rot or running them into the ground. You couldn't step on so many rakes if you tried.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Done with Xbox after this gen.

It should be studied how they have handled great IPs, either leaving them to rot or running them into the ground. You couldn't step on so many rakes if you tried.

It doesn’t really need to be studied as they simply can’t evaluate games

Have said this a bunch here but when Ybarra and Spencer were given the screening of the very first Halo Infinite trailer (the one that gave us Craig) Ybarra honestly thought they were being punked after all the money and time that was spent and he was ready for the real trailer.

Phil said it looked good and to send it and Ybarra said to him they couldn’t show that and Mike was over ruled and the rest is history