People buy stuff all the time that never see their full potential
How many here own a sporty car that's never driving it at its max speed?
If never reaching a products full potential now means people have been scammed every single one of us are fucked
They're the same people who didn't even want it to exist. It's fucking weirdThere's so many threads and articles from people who don't want this thing. More than those that want it. It's wild really.
I know the exact types you are talking about down there. In fairness to them, their McLaren's might breakI live near Miami and see so many rich dudes driving stupid expensive sports cars like they are afraid they will break them is crazy
At least when I had fast cars I drove them hard but being 57 years old and 6'8" I have a very hard time getting in and out of something like that anymore
A lot of car to handle out of the box with very little driving aids on stock meats. That car needed tire STAT after delivery, lol.Yeah wish I had a closer one to my hometown in Indiana, its about 3 hours away
I dont have a great picture of her I want to share, this is the only one that doesn't have me or me and my wife in
Was a 2006 Ford GT but got rid of her awhile back with my knee giving me troubles
Its an old pic not long after I got her
I don't even disagree with most of what you said and still he had a really dumb take.Nah he has a point in relation to this
Most people aren't building 4090 desktop PCs to send emails, surf the web, type up documents etc. Most people just have work laptops and those who require home workstations are few and far between. As he said they exist but are probably a small minority. Most consumer desktop builds with that hardware are probably primarily for gaming. Their work computers they're not even building or paying for to worry about "paying for more than just gaming".
I did not buy these things, my boss does and after 4 years they get replaced and i get to keep the old one. For freeWho the hell burns money on ton of laptops for work and watch port on them?
The market (i.e. the people) will decide it's value as always. If folk decide it's worth the money, then a purchase will be made. It really is that simpleScamming implies I was deceived or defrauded of which I was neither
If its something I deem worth it then no scam occurred
Give it up boy.Because a 4070 Ti is over twice the rasterization performance of a PS5 when Cerny said verbatim the Pro is 45% faster. So why exactly are you going for a PC with a CPU that's 80% faster and GPU that's easily 20%+ faster and then complaining you cannot find it for $1000 CAD?
Those attempts are matching a console with a PC build are always moronic because it's always full of console gamers who are clearly told why their logic makes no sense or PC gamers trying to cut cost by buying shitty parts. The PS5 Pro is coming out in November. 1-3 months later, there will be new GeForce cards on the market and very soon, you will see a 5060/8700 XT going for $300-350 (thought the 4060 was $400, it's $300) and it should match the PS5 Pro's GPU. You will then be looking at a PC that's around $850 to match the Pro.
If you're going to spend money, be smart about it, don't be an idiot. I'm not big on TVs, but I'm not just buying the first one that comes up on Best Buy's webpage. I do my research and look for the best TV I can get for the best price. If money is such a concern, the least you can do is your due diligence and research what you're about to buy. Or is that too much of a hassle because you're too lazy to do that as well?
Do you wanna put a bet on that?You will never show me anything close to the pro for a 1000 canadian or 700 Us for at least a year.
I am so jealous. My lambo is stationary lolYeah wish I had a closer one to my hometown in Indiana, its about 3 hours away
I dont have a great picture of her I want to share, this is the only one that doesn't have me or me and my wife in
Was a 2006 Ford GT but got rid of her awhile back with my knee giving me troubles
Its an old pic not long after I got her
Lets go.Do you wanna put a bet on that?
I became a truck only guy due to my shitty back. I cant get out of anything thats low.I live near Miami and see so many rich dudes driving stupid expensive sports cars like they are afraid they will break them is crazy
At least when I had fast cars I drove them hard but being 57 years old and 6'8" I have a very hard time getting in and out of something like that anymore
Does this 3000$ machine play PS5 exclusives Day One?Yeah but the $3,000 machine will be at least 2X as powerful as the PS5
Negativity gets clicks.There's so many threads and articles from people who don't want this thing. More than those that want it. It's wild really.
Don’t do it. He is trying to hustle you and use those funds to buy a proLets go.
Alright, the Pro is coming out on November 7th 2024 I believe. We have until November 7th 2025. I also quoted $850 US, but to be honest, given that the PS5 Pro's CPU will be an antique by late 2025, an entry-level CPU might be able to match it. $850 and I can exceed the Pro's performance with a PC. $700 by the end of next year might also be possible, but no guarantee. It should come within 10% though.Lets go.
Coming from a guy who made it big, you're seriously telling me not to tell people to be smart with their money? Really? They should just spend frivolously and not do their research despite having limited funds? They shouldn't think and find the best their money can buy? I hope you're joking.dont tell them be smart with your money
Does this 3000$ machine play PS5 exclusives Day One?
That doesn’t matter to most people, especially PC people.Does this 3000$ machine play PS5 exclusives Day One?
I am a man of my word and accept the bet.Alright, the Pro is coming out on November 7th 2024 I believe. We have until November 7th 2025. I also quoted $850 US, but to be honest, given that the PS5 Pro's CPU will be an antique by late 2025, an entry-level CPU might be able to match it. $850 and I can exceed the Pro's performance with a PC. $700 by the end of next year might also be possible, but no guarantee. It should come within 10% though.
Coming from a guy who made it big, you're seriously telling me not to tell people to be smart with their money? Really? They should just spend frivolously and not do their research despite having limited funds? They shouldn't think and find the best their money can buy? I hope you're joking.
Can't some of the cheapest smartphone be enough? Why it has to be the $900-$1100 ones?why complain about the Pro’s price when people buy $900-$1100 iPhones and Samsung Galaxies every year? Well, your phone sees significantly more use than a console, it’s important to your personal life, your work life, and stays with you near 24/7.
I'm still rocking a Galaxy S10e I got used in mint condition for $200. Only will need to replace when the battery eventually can't hold a charge worth shit.Can't some of the cheapest smartphone be enough? Why it has to be the $900-$1100 ones?
Now that the dust has settled, I'm actually coming around to this thinking as well. I paid almost $4000.00 for my 4070 ti Super gaming PC (mouse and keyboard included in that price as well) to be able to play high quality products like Black Myth Wukong at 60 frames a second or higher. The fact I can buy a console for almost a quarter of that price to play these games at 60 frames a second is a pretty good deal.There are many benefits to PC gaming vs Console gaming. But as an entry level into higher end gaming, PS5 Pro is a reasonable price. Which is correct.
Porn is king.I'm still rocking a Galaxy S10e I got used in mint condition for $200. Only will need to replace when the battery eventually can't hold a charge worth shit.
Does well beyond what I need it to.
I guess we know a little about MS's shakeup shift for next gen. Their own SteamDeck and a XBox PC,
They want you to buy one thing and stick with it for the rest of the generation, there are multiple reasons actually.When it comes to what the value something provides on a personal level, you can't.
Some people think I'm nuts to spend $500-$700 per tire for cars that I track. They're not car people or not as much an enthusiast as I am. Others are, hence the market for them. It provides me a value of adrenalin and joy that I will never ever get back monetarily. Literal burn 'em up and toss 'em.
Is this box expensive? Yes. Every piece of electronics has gone up in all industries (look at the price of iPhones now). Could you put an objective VALUE on that? No. The market will dictate that, and each person's individual perception of that value.
The inflation just proved the next xbox isn't going to cost less than $600.
Good. We'll see in November 2025. To be honest, however, it really shouldn't be this long. The 8700 XT and 5060 will be good matches and they won't take a year to come to the market.I am a man of my word and accept the bet.
You got me wrong there, mate. I will buy a PS5 Pro, which I have been following closely for over a year now. What I took issue with is the builds you posted that easily outdo a PS5 Pro. If you're going to spend over a grand on anything and are of relatively normal income, it is paramount that you know what you're getting. For $700, I'd tell most people who only want to play the latest games to simply get a PS5, maybe not even a Pro.As far as being smart with money, yes you should but most of the time you cant.
When i say for most a 700 dollar console is luxury and thats the most they can afford then we have to accept that and dont make them feel bad about it.
Its not their fault. And those people wont have money for any high end pc.
And then there is life and family. If you are a family man, you will buy something everyone can use. You your kids friends etc. They want the family experience.
I just played astrobot all weeken3d with my daughter and it was a blast. Not just the game but the bonding and fun i had with her.
This is huge for me and surely for others as well.
I understand single guys or youth are all about ego trip and want the best and shitnon all the small guys who end up with consoles. I get it. But you will never change them so support them instead.
Life is hard . Food prices are insane, energy cost, gas is insane, insurance is insane , property tax is a big fuck you and so on and so on.
Other than the small group of people here who are hardcore, noone will invest in high end pc in todays economy.
So for those people yes the pro is a good value for an upgrade.
It will be sold out, are you going to pre order the console?I will buy a PS5 Pro
Yes.It will be sold out, are you going to pre order the console?
Destin's face at the end....
I’m very very happy with my 4090, and I’m just a gamer.
If you bought a 4090 and it doesn't MAKE YOU MONEY because you're a developer or an editor or a creator of some kind, you got scammed.
Enthusiasts that will purchase the PS5 Pro more than likely own a PS5 that they will probably trade-in/sell to offset a good half of the price here. Gamestop is currenlty offering $410 to trade in a base model PS5. I also already have a library of digital games so I don't need the disk drive and the stand is purely for visual at this point since I've had my original PS5 in both positions without having encourting any airflow issues. Oh and I get to take my 2TB SSD with me as well. This is exactly what I did when I upgraded to the PS4 Pro.$700 for the base PS5 Pro, not including tax.
$80 for the disk drive that you’ll most likely want/need, especially if you want to preserve your games.
$30 for for the stand that you’ll need if you want your new console to stand and receive proper airflow.
$70 for a game that you’ll want to play on your new PS5 Pro to hopefully take advantage of your new investment.
$15 for PSN extra (since that’s probably the best value of the tiers), if you then want to play online with your friends.
So… You’re roughly looking at $895 or more to have the full PS5 Pro experience, and that’s only in the US; other territories are getting gouged even harder.
If you’re a console fan, or a PS fan and just want the best of the best, then that’s perfectly fine; it’s your money. However, for not much more, or even less in some cases, you can absolutely have a PC that will give you similar performance to a PS5 Pro, allow you to do significantly more on it by virtue of it being a PC, and will last considerably longer, and give you more flexibility.
And, I know what some people may counter with: why complain about the Pro’s price when people buy $900-$1100 iPhones and Samsung Galaxies every year? Well, your phone sees significantly more use than a console, it’s important to your personal life, your work life, and stays with you near 24/7. It’ll eventually pay for itself over time.
CLosest i could find. This logic would only work if we can shiw rigjt now a pc that is comparable to the base ps5 fot same price. Maybe we should start there as its been 4 years. But brand new and not built with used parts.Good. We'll see in November 2025. To be honest, however, it really shouldn't be this long. The 8700 XT and 5060 will be good matches and they won't take a year to come to the market.
You got me wrong there, mate. I will buy a PS5 Pro, which I have been following closely for over a year now. What I took issue with is the builds you posted that easily outdo a PS5 Pro. If you're going to spend over a grand on anything and are of relatively normal income, it is paramount that you know what you're getting. For $700, I'd tell most people who only want to play the latest games to simply get a PS5, maybe not even a Pro.
Also, I think the Pro is a much poorer value compared to the PS5 when it was first released. I don't think it's a good idea to just ignore what Sony is doing because it could be worse and is worse on the PC side.