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Zero Time Dilemma (Zero Escape 3) review thread

-Horizon-

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Apparently, looks bad(more of an opinion i guess?), frames sometimes go down as low as 2fps, longer loading times. (unless i've missed any other statements)

Sad to hear they basically gave up on the 3ds version.
Guess that's what happens with a limited budget spread across 3 platforms.
 

Fardeen

Member
glad its getting great reviews, my only fear is that i dont want any plot holes or unexplained stuff knowing its the last game, and hope its the end of it, no cop out for another sequel which will defeat the purpose of this game
 
Getting a bit worried that Amazon still shows my order as delivery date pending. Ordered that sucker within minutes of it going live last year. :-/
 
A slow beginning is pretty much the standard when it comes to Uchikoshi games.

The only Uchikoshi game that starts off strong is Remember 11 I feel like. Too bad that one had budget issues in the end which resulted in them not beeing able to put out the ending they wanted.

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999 had an incredibly strong start. Who can forget about the whole incident with the 9th man? It was fantastic!
 
Sad to hear they basically gave up on the 3ds version.
Guess that's what happens with a limited budget spread across 3 platforms.
These complaints are overblown. The frame drops are the exception, not the rule, and loading times are usually less than 5 seconds, 10 tops.

Though I don't know if my playing on New 3DS had any effect on these issues.
 
Since Playasia decided to appeal to Gamergators, I am wondering if there is an alternative place to buy the JP/US version of the game as someone from the UK? I hope Playasia will apologise for that someday.
 

takoyaki

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999 had an incredibly strong start. Who can forget about the whole incident with the 9th man? It was fantastic!

thought so too, 999 has a strong start apart from the first puzzle; Especially if 999 is your first Uchikoshi game.

I loved how it starts off slow like a Saw movie and you think you know where the story is going, before the game slowly starts to go in its own unique direction.
 

Rektash

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999 had an incredibly strong start. Who can forget about the whole incident with the 9th man? It was fantastic!

Hmm, I disagree. While I did enjoy the 999 opener, I didn't think it was particulary strong. Certainly not
planecrash into crazy switching perspectives
strong thats for sure.

Remember 11 nailed the "Holy shit, what is going on here" combined with an incredibly oppressive atmosphere.

For reference, my favorite Uchikochi game, Ever 17 started off even slower(and had quite a few what one might consider boring segments). So, it's not like I think this affects my enjoyment of the game alot.
 
Getting a bit worried that Amazon still shows my order as delivery date pending. Ordered that sucker within minutes of it going live last year. :-/
Yeah, I'm also a tiny bit worried. I'm just going to order the standard version on Monday in case nothing changes. I have to wait at least 2 more weeks for the delivery as an European anyway :/

But I'm extremely happy about the scores. I smell my game of the year.
 

Not_Mario

Neo Member
Is there a zero missing in that frame rate, or does the game seriously go that low?

I played on n3DS so I don't know if that makes a difference, but it does go that low in a few instances when the entire screen is covered in particle effects. These only last a few seconds. The biggest downside to the 3DS version (assuming the game performs the same on old 3DS) is the low resolution making some puzzle room items and points of interest difficult to spot.

EDIT: I should add that if you have access to a Vita or PC then there's no reason you should bother with the 3DS version, but overall I thought it was slightly more solid of a port than VLR on 3DS. There doesn't seem to be any game breaking glitches this time, at least.
 
Hmm, I disagree. While I did enjoy the 999 opener, I didn't think it was particulary strong. Certainly not
planecrash into crazy switching perspectives
strong thats for sure.

Remember 11 nailed the "Holy shit, what is going on here" combined with an incredibly oppressive atmosphere.

For reference, my favorite Uchikochi game, Ever 17 started off even slower(and had quite a few what one might consider boring segments). So, it's not like I think this affects my enjoyment of the game alot.

Funnily enough, that's exactly how I would describe the start of 999. It gripped me pretty much instantly and didn't let go until the very end.
 
Yeah, I'm also a tiny bit worried. I'm just going to order the standard version on Monday in case nothing changes. I have to wait at least 2 more weeks for the delivery as an European anyway :/

But I'm extremely happy about the scores. I smell my game of the year.

Apparently people who preordered the SE at Gamestop are having the same issue as amazon and it might potentially be delayed.
 

Rektash

Member
Funnily enough, that's exactly how I would describe the start of 999. It gripped me pretty much instantly and didn't let go until the very end.

Eh, let's just agree to disagree on this. Might come down to preference after all.

Anyways, I for one, am not concerned about a slow beginning!
 
I'm just re-reading the gamespew review, and man is the game getting showered with a ton of praise!

"Kotaro Uchikoshi has given us one of the finest gaming trilogies of the 21st century, which has shaped me both as a gamer and a writer."

I NEED THIS GAME RIGHT NOW!!! O_O
 

darkside31337

Tomodachi wa Mahou
Apparently people who preordered the SE at Gamestop are having the same issue as amazon and it might potentially be delayed.

The silence is so stupid. Is Aksys really not going to say anything until at all until the game is out? I'd just cancel my preorder right now and order a regular version but I'd like the damn watch.
 
If I remember correctly, the shipment issue happened with VLR, as well... copies didn't end up going out until Wednesday instead of Tuesday. I think I remember having day 1 shipping and still not getting my copy of VLR until Thursday. I wonder if a similar issue is going on here.
 

Hylian7

Member
If I remember correctly, the shipment issue happened with VLR, as well... copies didn't end up going out until Wednesday instead of Tuesday. I think I remember having day 1 shipping and still not getting my copy of VLR until Thursday. I wonder if a similar issue is going on here.
I think I remember getting VLR late too, but kept the preorder for the watch. I'm probably doing the same here, but playing on PC if it doesn't come before that version releases.

Are we going to be able to preorder/preload it on Steam?
 

Gvitor

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Phew, embargo's now up. If anyone has more specific questions about the game, I might be able to answer them. I played on a 3DS. I also won't be spoiling the story, obviously.

Anyone with the game know if you can cycle between items more quickly this time around? This was one of the only few things that bugged me about VLR.

I don't remember exactly how it was in VLR, but in ZTD you can cycle them only in one direction by pressing the up button in the d-pad. The down button does something else, so you can't cycle both ways. It never bothered me, though.
 

Hylian7

Member
Phew, embargo's now up. If anyone has more specific questions about the game, I might be able to answer them. I played on a 3DS. I also won't be spoiling the story, obviously.



I don't remember exactly how it was in VLR, but in ZTD you can cycle them only in one direction by pressing the up button in the d-pad. The down button does something else, so you can't cycle both ways. It never bothered me, though.
Did you play on n3DS or the old one? If the former, did you have the issues Kagari mentioned?
 
Based on the frame rate issues I thought maybe I'd just pick this up from Best Buy on the day of instead of getting the watch. Now it looks like no store is going to carry it where I live. Is this going to be a low print game?
 
Remember when a lot of people were saying the English voice acting was going to suck?

From gamespew:

"Both the Japanese and English voice casts also deserve proper recognition. Each actor brings their character to life. The emotions they convey are complex and multi-faceted, so their success cannot be understated. Personally, I left the English cast on for the majority of my playthrough. Their voices seemed to match the bodies just a little bit better. However, you have the option to change them on the fly, so if you like one team’s Japanese VAs more than their English VAs (or vice versa) it’s just a button press away."

Seems like it turned out really well, just like in VLR. I always believed it was just shitty editing with the trailers making the voice acting sound worse than what it would be in the final game.
 

Gvitor

Member
Did you play on n3DS or the old one? If the former, did you have the issues Kagari mentioned?

Old 3DS. I didn't have any framerate issues. I read someone talking about lagging after sleep mode and fixing it by going through the home menu... I used the sleep mode all the time. I think I only turned off the 3DS 3 times during my playthrough, most of the times I'd just close the lid and leave it in sleep mode overnight, and I never experienced this.

That said... I wouldn't recommend the game on the 3DS. It's not dealbreaking, so if you only have a 3DS, you'll still enjoy it lots, but the resolution hurts it. There's one instance where I couldn't make out the number in a playing card due to the blurriness of it, I had to count the pips on the card.
 

takoyaki

Member
another review, this one has what I assume are direct feed screenshots from Vita (only puzzles, no story spoiler).

ztgd 9.5/10

Despite the minor complaint, Zero Time Dilemma is a triumph in storytelling and world building with some of the most complex and yet satisfying narrative ever to grace a videogame. Whether this is the final entry to the Zero Escape series or not, the developers can rest easy knowing that they’ve managed to craft one of the finest visual novel series of all time.

Good

+Mind-bending story
+Clever puzzles with well balanced difficulty
+Clean, easy to use interface and quality of life improvements

Bad

-Touch controls on the Vita can get a bit obnoxious

Fun Tidbit – Both the English and Japanese voice acting deserves special mention as the performances are all around quite stellar. It always puts a smile on my face to hear D.C. Douglas doing his Albert Wesker like voice in another game!

Having finished my play through on the Vita, I can say that the visuals were quite crisp and colorful, and being able to see the environments in widescreen helped in navigating the escape rooms.

However, the built in memo functionality was difficult to use with my finger (I kept a notepad and pen next to me instead), and some of the puzzles that required very precise inputs were a bit of a hassle to handle from time to time.

This is something that could’ve perhaps been alleviated through the use of a capacitive pen, but I unfortunately didn’t have one on hand.

more at the link
 

Marcus

Member
Old 3DS. I didn't have any framerate issues. I read someone talking about lagging after sleep mode and fixing it by going through the home menu... I used the sleep mode all the time. I think I only turned off the 3DS 3 times during my playthrough, most of the times I'd just close the lid and leave it in sleep mode overnight, and I never experienced this.

That said... I wouldn't recommend the game on the 3DS. It's not dealbreaking, so if you only have a 3DS, you'll still enjoy it lots, but the resolution hurts it. There's one instance where I couldn't make out the number in a playing card due to the blurriness of it, I had to count the pips on the card.

original 3DS or XL? i might cancel my LE preorder and get the steam version if its really that bad
 
Getting a bit worried that Amazon still shows my order as delivery date pending. Ordered that sucker within minutes of it going live last year. :-/

The LE? Same for me.

I'm getting it on Steam too so I'l lbe able to play it, but I really want that Vita version and the watch.

Amazon also apparently fucked up on Mirrors Edge Catalyst SEs too, don't know why they hate them so much
 

Gvitor

Member
original 3DS or XL? i might cancel my LE preorder and get the steam version if its really that bad

Original 3DS. Like I said, it's not dealbreaking. That example was the worst it ever got, but the blurriness can get annoying. A good example are pre-release screenshots and video comparisons that have Sigma on them. The logo in his shirt is verry blurry on the 3DS.
 

Kazer

Member
The LE? Same for me.

I'm getting it on Steam too so I'l lbe able to play it, but I really want that Vita version and the watch.

Amazon also apparently fucked up on Mirrors Edge Catalyst SEs too, don't know why they hate them so much

I'm worried they'll mess this up too. I have some random 3 hour commutes on Wednesday and Thursday so if they don't get it to me on time I'll just buy a digital copy too I guess!
 

takoyaki

Member
Also thanks takoyaki for all the info so far. Looking awesome!

thanks man, appreciate it! still remember you from the very first "Aksys might be teasing something"-thread blacksark, it's been a long journey :)

I’m just so relieved that the reviews are overwhelmingly positive so far.
 
I was going to stick with the Japanese voices seeing as that's how I played VLR, but if they're that good then I might use the English ones as I would for any other game.
 

Watch Da Birdie

I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
Um...was anyone else surprised to learn this was coming out this month?

For some reason I thought this was 2017. HYPE.
 

mStudios

Member
TO THOSE WHO PLAYED THE GAME.
ONE QUESTING OF YES OR NOT ;

VLR spoiler.

Is the VLR timeline explanation satisfactory and well done?
 
I was thinking of replaying both 9/9/9 and VLR before this, but, I think I remember enough of 9/9/9's story WAY more than VLR's. That story went some wacky places and I really need to establish the twist at the end, and really hope it makes more sense by the end of ZTD.
 

blacksark

Member
thanks man, appreciate it! still remember you from the very first "Aksys might be teasing something"-thread blacksark, it's been a long journey :)

I’m just so relieved that the reviews are overwhelmingly positive so far.

Yep same here! Have been a bit on a blackout so I get the less quantity of spoilers possible but glad that everything is looking awesome and appreciate your work.As said, from all the negatives(which seem not too many) the only one that worries me is that is way shorter than vlr, but will have to live with that haha.
 
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