Watch_Dogs PC performance thread [Read post #1215 before posting]

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Ysiadmihi said:
Everything but the water looks like shit. Maybe I'd have to see it in motion.
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I don't think "shit" is the right term, but damn if there is an extreme quality difference between the water (godly!) and everything else (typical?), its really out of place!
 
ArthurHucksake said:
Stutters on my rig. Mainly notice it when driving and especially when hes talking on the phone. Not sure if its frame skipping or frame drops.

2600K at 4.5Ghz , 8gb ram and a Titan.

Regardless of whether I disable DOF, Motion Blur , set textures to medium and rest on high from Ultra, makes no odds.

Throws the VRAM theory out the window, ive 6GBs of the stuff and it dont help.

PS4 version next week it is.
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Try disabling vsync to see if that helps. If I recall correctly there was something similar with AC4 for some people, just then had to force it via the drivers.
 
MrBali said:
4700MQ
780M
16 gig

I should be able to play it at good settings unless CPU bottlenecks my video card. I suffer from this in ARMA 3/ DayZ heavily. What do you think?
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I suffer from CPU bottlenecks in DayZ as well. I have the same CPU and RAM as you besides the 780M. What kind of frames and settings are you running it on? I ask this because I'm running with a 755m (A big drop from the 780) but I can run games at decent resolutions, It's disappointing to hear that this game suffers from CPU performance issues.
 
saunderez said:
They missed their goal. As much as that sucks it doesn't make what we've got "awful" in any reality I'm familiar with. Apart from the performance issues, which I understand if people are pissed about, where are all the better looking open world games out there that make this one look "awful" and a "shitshow" by comparison? It's hyperbole to the nth degree. It's almost as bad as the constant "looks like a PS2 game" comments on the console side.
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When will you finally have enough ? When it's basically a bunch of stick figures running around ?

Don't fuckin' have me test drive a Ferrari then bait and switch me for a Subaru Imprezza. I'm not saying an Imprezza is a bad car, but it's not worth Ferrari money, doesn't have Ferrari heritage and is not worth Ferrari hype.

In other words. Don't show me a game that looks like the second coming, then switch it for a smaller scale GTA IV and then have it run like shit on my PC that eats BF4 on ultra for breakfast.

As far go-damn "Day one patches", are you people listening to yourselves ?

The game is shipping, it shouldn't need a damn day one patch to work properly.

Day one patch = oh shit we ran out of time, and shareholders trump paying customers, so since someone has to get fucked, it might as well be the ones who will keep coming back for more sequel after sequel.
 
Human_me said:
Can anyone confirm whether it will run at 21:9 Aspect Ratio? (2560x1080)
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Someone else answered this

Zeppeli said:
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Got him to send me a picture from the settings. Native 21:9 support is included.
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At this point, I'm hoping the game reviews poorly so I don't have an irresponsible impulse to upgrade my 2GB GTX 680 ("It will be fine" they said when I bought it over the 4GB variant). I just upgraded to a i7-4770k and an SSD, so I'd really like to wait until shortly before the Witcher 3 comes out to upgrade to something DX12 compatible.

Of course, I hope the game's awesome.
 
dmr87 said:
They can't even provide an option for turning off mouse acceleration so we can't expect too much.
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Who plays these games with KB/M? I could understand wanting to play FPS that way (I do) but for 3rd person action games, controllers are a must.
 
God dammit, my GamerProfile reverts to default now when I start up the game so my efforts to turn off HUD are in vain.

Anyone know how to prevent it resetting?
 
molvetica said:
Anyone playing on a non-overclocked i5? I want to know how this performs on mainstream chips.
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I'm running an i5 2500, 12GB and Radeon 7970. My settings -

1080P
Detail - Ultra
Shadows - High
Reflections - Ultra
Ambient Occlusion - MHBAO
Motion Blur - On
Depth of Field - On
Water - Ultra
Shader - High

With vsync turned off I get a steady 45-60fps, typically hovering around 50fps usually. However, I can't stand screen tearing, so I have vsync set to on (1 frame) and it's mostly locked at 30fps. I say mostly because Fraps is telling me it's jumping up to about 45fps again, but for the vast majority of the time, locked at 30.
 
Are there any issues with forcing anisotropic filtering since the setting isn't present in the game? If there are no issues, why aren't people forcing it?
 
Would I be better off getting this on PS4 instead of my aging gaming PC?

I have:
AMD x4 965 @ 3.8 ghz
AMD 7850 2 GB
6 RB RAM

Will the graphics/performance be better on PS4?
 
Paradicia said:
I suffer from CPU bottlenecks in DayZ as well. I have the same CPU and RAM as you besides the 780M. What kind of frames and settings are you running it on? I ask this because I'm running with a 755m (A big drop from the 780) but I can run games at decent resolutions, It's disappointing to hear that this game suffers from CPU performance issues.
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Arma 3 is working fine in high settings unless I get in to a city or a multiplayer game. So singleplayer 60ish fps and Altis Life etc around 30 with occasional drops. Dayz is all over the place frame wise (never really smooth) I think I'm using medium settings for that. Kind of a bummer considering I can play most other games on ultra settings.
 
Herne said:
I'm running an i5 2500, 12GB and Radeon 7970. My settings -

1080P
Detail - Ultra
Shadows - High
Reflections - Ultra
Ambient Occlusion - MHBAO
Motion Blur - On
Depth of Field - On
Water - Ultra
Shader - High

With vsync turned off I get a steady 45-60fps, typically hovering around 50fps usually. However, I can't stand screen tearing, so I have vsync set to on (1 frame) and it's mostly locked at 30fps. I say mostly because Fraps is telling me it's jumping up to about 45fps again, but for the vast majority of the time, locked at 30.
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Is your i5 overclocked or stock? I have the 2500K, 770 2GB, and 8GB DDR3 1600. I should probably be able to get similar performance to what you are getting except you have more VRAM than I do on the 7970. I'm thinking next month I'll be going with a Z97 mobo and probably get a 4770K, then wait till the 800 series video cards come out to upgrade my card. I was tempted several times to get a 780, but I want to wait it out a bit.

I also have a PS4 and I keep going back and forth between the two, but I'd rather be running this at 1080p vs. 900p. Then add certain effects are toned down on the PS4.
 
How intensive is the motion blur setting? I usually don't enable it at all, so I'd like to know how much gain there is.
 
Wag said:
Who plays these games with KB/M? I could understand wanting to play FPS that way (I do) but for 3rd person action games, controllers are a must.
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I agree with the controller part, I'm gonna use one myself. But it's a game on PC and therefor there should be options that reflects that. You can disable the mouse acc in the cfg, which shows that they either forgot or that they don't care that much.
 
TheD said:
No, the i5 today is not the fucking same as a P4D was back then!

The reason the P4D died off was due to it's much lower IPC than Core2 based CPUs, it was close to half the speed clock for clock, that meant that the C2D could be scaled up performance wise much easier than them (a P4D would need some really insane clockspeeds to match something like a 3Ghz C2D).

If anything, the i5s are todays C2Ds.

They are much faster vs the CPUs in the new consoles than the high clocked P4Ds and low clocked C2D were vs Xenon and Cell.
Hell, some people forget that both the Xenon and Cell had over 3x the number of cores (or logical cores/threads) than the dual cores that people had no problem gaming on for a large amount of last gen!
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SapientWolf said:
No, not even remotely close. The i5 is still viable if you OC it but the Pentium D sucked ass the moment it was released. Plus it runs at like 90C.
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Yeah the Pentium D was a pretty horrific effort by Intel.

knitoe said:
I have been trying to warn people in the PC thread, for at least 2 years, to get 3GB or more VRAM video cards. It was hard to explained that the games were designed / limited to 2GB of VRAM and not because the X GPU wasn't powerful enough to use more ram. I always get the counter argument "look at zero difference in fps between 2GB vs 4GB." When the nextgen was announced with 8GB, I knew games designed for 2GB> was near. Lets just say, I am glad I bought SLI Titans at launched. Guess, I didn't waste money waiting for the 780.
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One game doesn't indicate a trend in VRAM requirements.

Renekton said:
I coulda sworn Toms and Anand did articles about PC hardware myths such as VRAM. It was concluded 2GB was enough for 1080p with good post-processing.

To me, the bigger problem is that many gamers still hold on to 4GB main RAM for dear life. For all the complaints about console generation holding PC gamers back, we need to convince the home turf that an extra RAM stick isn't going to kill them.
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Lots of sites did. I still stand by what we said in the I need a new PC thread. More VRAM will be required at some stage, but then and even now 2GB is still enough. The next gen of cards will probably bring a VRAM bump up with the midrange moving to 3GB.
 
lordkosc said:
Do you have any overclock on your cpu or is it stock speed?

I have hope now that I will be able to get the same results as our pc's are almost identical.
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It's stock. As for fps, haven't checked yet, feels anywhere from 30 to 50. Running the newest beta driver too.
 
Herne said:
I'm running an i5 2500, 12GB and Radeon 7970. My settings -

1080P
Detail - Ultra
Shadows - High
Reflections - Ultra
Ambient Occlusion - MHBAO
Motion Blur - On
Depth of Field - On
Water - Ultra
Shader - High

With vsync turned off I get a steady 45-60fps, typically hovering around 50fps usually. However, I can't stand screen tearing, so I have vsync set to on (1 frame) and it's mostly locked at 30fps. I say mostly because Fraps is telling me it's jumping up to about 45fps again, but for the vast majority of the time, locked at 30.
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When you try different v sync options is it not possible to get synced gameplay without 30fps lock? And have you tried getting locked 60fps no matter what? I am asking since I have the same PC, but I need 60fps to be able to enjoy it. Thanks.
 
My specs:

Windows 7 64bit
Intel i7-4770k CPU @ 3.50GHz
16GB Corsair Vengeance LP - 1600MHz DDR3
Nvidia GTX 660 ti
Corsair Force GT SSD 120GB

Video of me playing the Digital Trip Madness


was hitting 60 to 30 on high, didn't push it higher as FRAPs likes to eat frames.


Can somebody point me in the direction of the Main Watch_dogs thread? it all seems fractured
 
The game looks awesome but damn the stuttering. The game weirdly keeps moving from 45-70 fps very quickly, which is very jarring.

i7 4770k
16GB DDR3 1600MHz
SSD
GTX 780 hall of fame edition (AKA, as fast or even better than Titan).

Any solutions?
 
CaptainZombie said:
Is your i5 overclocked or stock? I have the 2500K, 770 2GB, and 8GB DDR3 1600. I should probably be able to get similar performance to what you are getting except you have more VRAM than I do on the 7970. I'm thinking next month I'll be going with a Z97 mobo and probably get a 4770K, then wait till the 800 series video cards come out to upgrade my card. I was tempted several times to get a 780, but I want to wait it out a bit.

I also have a PS4 and I keep going back and forth between the two, but I'd rather be running this at 1080p vs. 900p. Then add certain effects are toned down on the PS4.
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My i5 is definitely not overclocked, it's a non K variant with a motherboard that has absolutely no options for overclocking. If you're thinking of selling your 2500K and motherboard after your upgrade, let me know! I have a pc here that definitely needs some upgrading.

Denton said:
When you try different v sync options is it not possible to get synced gameplay without 30fps lock? And have you tried getting locked 60fps no matter what? I am asking since I have the same PC, but I need 60fps to be able to enjoy it. Thanks.
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Setting vsync to 2 drops the fps down to 20, which is definitely not an option. I don't mind 30, so I'm okay with that, but if you're willing to deal with some screen tearing and your pc is similar to mine, you should be hitting 60 or close to.
 
Herne said:
My i5 is definitely not overclocked, it's a non K variant with a motherboard that has absolutely no options for overclocking. If you're thinking of selling your 2500K and motherboard after your upgrade, let me know! I have a pc here that definitely needs some upgrading.

Setting vsync to 2 drops the fps down to 20, which is definitely not an option. I don't mind 30, so I'm okay with that, but if you're willing to deal with some screen tearing and your pc is similar to mine, you should be hitting 60 or close to.
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If I do I'll let you know. My mobo is ITX BTW, just bought it back in Feb as I went from mATX to ITX. I kept the 2500K and reused for the ITX and I probably should of gone with a Haswell and the 4770K at that point. Oh well, LOL!

It seems like you are getting decent performance with your setup and probably better than what it would be on consoles.
 
Piggus said:
The game is CPU bound, as expected. A big open world game like this is unlikely to run at 60 fps for anyone yet people will still say it's unoptimized trash. Lock it to 30 and be happy.
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"A big open world like this" runs on a PS4, whose CPU is abysmal compared to an average PC.

What was expected is the engine being terrible. Certainly not the game delivering a new level of experience.

Btw, CPU runs game logic. Game logic is the same whether the game goes at 20 FPS or 60, or 200.
 
I would really like to find out why they removed the dynamic, heavier DOF. It's a trick we've seen in ENBs for GTAIV, Skyrim, etc and was in the earlier trailers. The DOF is still there - you see it flash every time you bring out your phone, it's there (slightly) in the scripted camera when you remove cash from an ATM, it's there (slightly) when you pull a gun out. But just walking around, having the camera get close to things, doesn't cause the DOF to adjust dynamically. But if the effect is still there on command, then surely it's not a performance-related problem? It would have massively increased the wow-factor of the game's visuals.
 
kharma45 said:
One game doesn't indicate a trend in VRAM requirements.



Lots of sites did. I still stand by what we said in the I need a new PC thread. More VRAM will be required at some stage, but then and even now 2GB is still enough. The next gen of cards will probably bring a VRAM bump up with the midrange moving to 3GB.
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Except that PS4 and XB1 have a minimum of 5GB of unified memory available to developers. Multiplatform AAA games will routinely use more then 2GB of vram going forward. What you are apparently expecting is for developers to trim this usage down for the PC release. Going by the history of PC gaming, this is extraordinarily unlikely to happen. What's most likely going to happen is that they will drop the game as is and leave it up to gamers to upgrade their computers like they always have. Anyone with a 2GB video card is basically getting their warning shot right now from Ubi. Judging from some of the posts here, only having 3GB of vram may leave you on the borderline.
 
Can you turn off the x-ray vision (enemies and important vehicles outlined and visible through walls)?

Out of all the hand-holding "features" in games today, x-ray vision is the game breaker for me. I had to stop playing Far Cry 3 until I found mods that got rid of it.

At least with Assassin's Creed (also Ubisoft games, hah), I could simply avoid using what triggered it. With this game...it does it for you automatically.
 
Herne said:
I'm running an i5 2500, 12GB and Radeon 7970. My settings -

1080P
Detail - Ultra
Shadows - High
Reflections - Ultra
Ambient Occlusion - MHBAO
Motion Blur - On
Depth of Field - On
Water - Ultra
Shader - High

With vsync turned off I get a steady 45-60fps, typically hovering around 50fps usually. However, I can't stand screen tearing, so I have vsync set to on (1 frame) and it's mostly locked at 30fps. I say mostly because Fraps is telling me it's jumping up to about 45fps again, but for the vast majority of the time, locked at 30.
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I guess I should expect something close to that.

I have a 7970, amd fx 8320 3.5ghz, 8 gb, and will also be at 1080p.
 
If somebody is good with Cheat Engine you can try to see if there is anything useful in game code that can improve graphic etc.
 
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