Uncharted 4 Trailer runs in-engine, in-game, in realtime on a single PS4 at 1080p60
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I hope we get a doughnut drake mode like in UC2.
Concern trolls will concern troll. If this game gets the slightest of downgrades, if the jungle has one less branch or less poligons on that fly, heads will roll under the "I told you so" barrages.
EDIT: Was responding to something other you posted and edited.
Windom Earle
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I agree with this. The IQ is simply perfect, I don't see any jaggies. How would that be possible without extremely expensive AA methods like downsampling or SGSSAA? I am staying skeptical but want to believe in Naughty Gods.
Of course.
Thing is, they could say I told you so, but it'd still look better than anything they've ever played.
How am I trolling, I just want to see how Doughnut Drake would look in UC4 seeing how good the game looks.
edit: never mind then.
can that be true? 1440p and 4k gaming exists you know. But then you'll say you'll like the art better
eddfromtheriver
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Hmmm, wonder what he said this time.
ArchedThunder
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Trying to imagine what they could achieve with 30fps... I guess we'll probably find out with The Last of Us 2.
No man! I wasn't talking about you
I was commenting on the fact that there really is a lot of drama in this thread. I was agreeing with you.
A turd at 4K is still a turd. Not sure how resolution is going to improve the art style of a game.
This.
I'm sorry guys but we gotta be a bit realistic. The IQ just looks beyond anything I've seen aside from major supersampling and nobody from Naughty Dog has literally been quoted saying "real-time", I believe it's reporters misconstruing 'in-game' and 'captured on a ps4' as 'real-time'. ND is using the same terminology as they did with The Last of Us trailers that also ended up having higher IQ than the eventual game.
So if I take MGS2 and downsample it to hell and back, it will look better than MGS V. Is that what you're implying, right? Geometry, animation, physics and texture quality be damned. I've recently played DMC3 on the pc maxed and it doesn't look better than vanilla
DMC4, at least in my eyes.
Higher resolution is always something good to have (and it's been the root of so many new threads on gaf since the beginning of ps3 era, doubly so these days) but it's not gonna make up for less developed geometry, shadows, lighting effects, etc. PS2 games surely look better on PCSX2 than they would on a ps2, but they don't exactly defy ps3 games. FF XII looks amazing but XIII looks miles ahead, as it should.
I'm still noticing details I missed from the footage.
The sand moving and staying in place as he reaches for the gun. I was so focused on the details on Nate's face that I never noticed it. Wizardry.
And lol at the fucking Ryse comparisons. The game looks good but as others have said, pictures are becoming worthless in terms of comparisons, this stuff needs to be in motion.
It should have a text saying "2015 - the mass murdering continues".
Why would TLoU 2 be 30 fps while this is 60fps?
scoobs
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That should be the tag line of 80% of games nowadays.
Open world confirmed.
velociraptor
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No doubt about it. People still bring up that stupid Uncharted 3 cutscene image as if it holds some relevance. :lol
The IQ is much nicer than The Order, which is MSAAx4. Maybe it's just the temporal bump that's helping though.
Maybe some of it could pass as self defense?
Well, there is still no definitive (official) claim that this has been rendered in real-time. So it could have been captured (on one PS4, in-engine, in a level etc...) with anything from 0.5 to 60 fps. We don't no anymore than that, and Yu would certainly have told us right away if it had been actual real-time footage. I even think there's no reason not to include that message in the trailer upfront.
But I'm sure this is the vision behind the project and we can certainly expect something similar to this - maybe once optimization is done, it will even look exactly like that in real-time in 60fps. Maybe even better. But this footage remains ambiguous. [I love it to death, however]
Me? Nah. I'm too busy playing Dota 2 to care(and it's chinner, he's trolling).
Uncharted 4 sure looks pretty though, shame I don't like the kind of games ND has been making since last gen.
Yeah, I see it all the time. Even if ND downgraded it,the gameplay was never downgraded.
But some people cling to the silliest of things..
(I don't think it was downgraded, the lighting is diferent but could be for artistic reasons, and since they were pre-rendered and weren't being rendered in real time ,it doesn't make sense to downgrade in the first place).
No man! I wasn't talking about you
I was commenting on the fact that there really is a lot of drama in this thread. I was agreeing with you.
Understood
Muppet of a Man
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Man, I wish ND made a PIXAR quality Jak and Daxter game. I would buy it in a second.
ArchedThunder
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Cave Johnson
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This is relative and the fact that U4 is targeting this frame-rate nullifies that point further.
Suddenly it makes sense. Kinda like MGS2 -> MGS3. MGS2 looked unreal, everything was so detailed and smooth, looked like a generation ahead of other games on the market. Then MGS3 came out and looked so much better, textures, lighting, physics (that grass), scope. It came at the expense of framerate, but it was a sight to behold, especially the subsistence version with the controllable camera.
Right now, any game will look better than ps3 level games. So ND can pump 60fps U4 and still wow everyone. In 3-4 years, we will see TLoU 2 and it will blow this game out of the water, at the expense of half of the framerate. If they can really achieve what we saw at 1080p and 60fps, I shudder to think what's it gonna like when they have learned more about the hw and cut down the framerate.
Personally, I wouldn't mind if they don't improve further from this just to keep the 60fps, the game already looks surreal.I love 60fps games more than anything, if they need to cut eyecandy, so be it.
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Deleted member 80556
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Yeah, I know, chinner is always trolling. You were the first thing that came to mind when he mentioned that.
velociraptor
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Personally I don't think MGS3 looks '30FPS' better than MGS2.
I think ND will probably continue with 60FPS, especially if Uncharted 4 looks visually spectacular. And I'll be happy with that. I don't always believe 30FPS visuals > 60FPS visuals. Many PC games allow you to gain 60FPS by disable superfluous features that really don't add much to the graphics.
Dude, endless grey structures vs. living, breathing, interactive jungle environments. (plus everything else that got enhanced visually)
geordiemp
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It's not but I'd be willing to be games like Witcher 3 and Arkham Knight end up looking better then this does on PC.
Especially when you take into account downsampling and things of that nature.
That doesn't take anything away from U4 though. It's being made on a PS4. I think it just annoys some PC guys when people are constantly talking about how the latest playstation exclusive is the best looking game out. It happened last generation and it's continued into this one. It's also never been the case.
Really though no one should care. We haven't seen enough of this game to render any kind of judgement. The teaser looks amazing that's pretty much it.
Please what?
viveks86
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HhhhnnnggggThe Lead Programmer at Naughty Dog agrees with you:
BTW I totally agree that a multiplayer beta should be bundled with The Order.
BruceLeeRoy
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Them targeting 60fps is interesting because I believe it has always been there intention after UC3. Remember the video they released that showed UC3 running at 60 FPS and how gorgeous it looked. They had to of been testing that internally and then shared it publicly. I imagine after the ND team had a chance to play through it that way they were convinced to target it.
The Lead Programmer at Naughty Dog agrees with you:
Damn, I like his style
He looks like Major Nelson in that gif. Strange
wapplew
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The Lead Programmer at Naughty Dog agrees with you:
ND need to know when to stop before everyone else giving up. Leave some room for others
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Ploid 3.0
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The Lead Programmer at Naughty Dog agrees with you:
Reminds me of the early Uncharted 1 footage stuff compared to the finished game, it looked better, more refined.
I actually speculated a long time ago that they might go for 60 again like they did in the PS2 days but I wasn't to confident that it would happen. I also think I jokingly suggested it as the only way it could look better than The Order.
I was also hoping that they would go real time to save disk space and because seamless cutscene transistions always have a big impact.
The Lead Programmer at Naughty Dog agrees with you:
The idea of improved graphics is great, but I got really excited just thinking about the possibility of a beta being included in a future Sony release. We should start harassing Shu. #U4betaplease
ArkhamFantasy
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Aren't they going to get to the point to where the game wont fit on 1 disc?
mysteriousmage09
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The Lead Programmer at Naughty Dog agrees with you:
God damn, they are going to embarrass every other dev.
They say they've abandoned prerendered fmvs for this game, should save 'em a lot of space.
I think it's the best aproach honestly. That way they can make something even more unbelievable in the second game, as they can go the easy way and simply run at half the framerate,free up the resources and get even more eyecandy.
It's a pity that they couldn't make U3 60fps, but it would be impossible for ps3 to achieve that number at that level of fidelity (it was running on a dev kit with double the ram, if I'm not mistaken). The game was probably capable of running higher than 30 (but nothing close to 60), as I don't remind framedrops from that game, but my memory could be failing me.
Nope, not just you. Also Liam Neeson, Jeremy Renner, Banderas and Oberyn Martell (GoT) have been mentioned.
He can be all your fantasies combined lol
Cave Johnson
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I always thought the 60fps was a marketing stunt that nearly backfired. As for 60fps theory, one simply needs to play third person games on PC to literally see the difference between lag-input in console. Considering that their multiplayer is highly regarded, it would be much advantageous for them to go this route.
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