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[Nickolaidas]

Shh . Hide that QUICK!! It goes completely against today's rhetoric, you might actually get banned for that, that game doesn't exist, because if it did, that would mean XSX has already shown the most impressive example of Ray Tracing and we just can't have that right now smdh

You're so funny.

Except that you're not.

I don't think that anyone here actually believes that XSX is a bad console. The basic argument is that Halo infinite looks like shit and did XSX a major disservice.

 

[Bojanglez]

So still before Gran Turismo...

Doubt it. Gran Turismo showed gameplay actually running on a PS5 didn't it? So I would imagine it's before then.

 

[THEAP99]

What made you think this?

I was just being a bit snarky. I remember last year at some point people were claiming it doesn't have hardware-based ray tracing. So i was mocking them as those statements were clearly debunked

 

[Kumomeme]

if we based on recent showcase and consider their first party studio capabilities..yes

..for now


unless ms keep screwing up like halo infinite did

 

[thismeinteil]

For consoles, it could. We have seen zero footage running on an actual Series X. It's all been on PCs running specs "comparable" to the XSX. Last gen, we know how MS overshot those comparable specs with XBO HW, with most launch games getting downgrades. And in Forza's case, it was all in-engine, running on God knows what PC. No mention of comparable specs in that vid.

 

[Journey]

You're so funny.

Except that you're not.

I don't think that anyone here actually believes that XSX is a bad console. The basic argument is that Halo infinite looks like shit and did XSX a major disservice.

That's like Xbox fans focusing on Godfall because it looks like shit, while ignoring everything else that's great on PS5. Halo isn't doing a disservice, did you actually play the game? What if it's a 10/10 because it's actually a fun game with a great campaign Story and multiplayer? Isn't it weird how we switch the focus to whatever best fits our agenda? Halo wasn't the graphical flagship for Xbox (Riddick) it wasn't for 360 either (Gears of War) but now suddenly it's doomsday for Series X because it doesn't look the best? Halo never did, it's about how much fun we had with the game and it's mechanics that revolutionized FPS' on consoles. Of course we wanted it to look amazing, no one is saying they expected it to disappoint graphically, but it's not going to affect how amazing UE5 games will look on Series X and multiplatform games performing better due to the extra horsepower.

Xbox Series X will be the best place to play Halo Infinite, 4K/60 FPS and HDR. Could it have looked better? Sure, but those asking for 4K/60 HDR should check themselves, because even the PC has a hard time with that requirement. Should we go back down to 30fps and never break the cycle?


Rage on warriors, but make up your minds.

 

[INC]

That's like Xbox fans focusing on Godfall

godfall at least had mild next gen sheen to it

 

[Journey]

godfall at least had mild next gen sheen to it

Again, I wouldn't focus on that, PS5 has some amazing stuff and so does Series X.

 

[Nickolaidas]

That's like Xbox fans focusing on Godfall because it looks like shit.

Godfall isn't the most renown IP of PlayStation. It is a nobody's game which can afford to be the epitome of mediocrity.

Halo is a symbol and deserves a LOT better than this.

 

[oldergamer]

No, for the most part sony didn't have a lot of interest in pushing RT. they will use it for certain special effects, but i don't expect we will see entire games using it.

 

[Bryank75]

No, for the most part sony didn't have a lot of interest in pushing RT. they will use it for certain special effects, but i don't expect we will see entire games using it.

This didn't age well.

 

[smallpotatosan]

lmao, i just realized it's an old post. glad i can still vote. the answer is yes.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Definitely at launch since we don't have a big selection of Ray Traced games. And probably over the next year as well.

 

[Warnen]

Nope stuff will look infinitely better on PC and Xbox will do the same in the console realm.

 

[onQ123]

Nope stuff will look infinitely better on PC and Xbox will do the same in the console realm.

Have you seen one game on Xbox Series X that look better than the PS5 games?

 

[geordiemp]

Nope stuff will look infinitely better on PC and Xbox will do the same in the console realm.

PC yes, Xbox show us.

Third part may use some, more likely screen space....and we are left with Sony first party.

 

[Warnen]

Have you seen one game on Xbox Series X that look better than the PS5 games?

systems aren't out yet, ray tracing isn't a Sony only feature.

 

[onQ123]

systems aren't out yet, ray tracing isn't a Sony only feature.

No one said that but you just said PC will look better & Xbox will do the same. I'm asking you to show some indication that Xbox will do the same.

 

[Warnen]

No one said that but you just said PC will look better & Xbox will do the same. I'm asking you to show some indication that Xbox will do the same.

Besides the Xbox Series X being more powerful hardware? Guess I don't have any. It's a graphical effect not magic. If one system with the proper hardware can do it, the other with better hardware can do it as well.


Jesus the console warring horse shit has to stop at some point right?

 

[MasterCornholio]

Besides the Xbox Series X being more powerful hardware? Guess I don't have any. It's a graphical effect not magic. If one system with the proper hardware can do it, the other with better hardware can do it as well.


Jesus the console warring horse shit has to stop at some point right?

It really depends if there's something that's making RT more difficult on the more powerful hardware. Remember issues with the dev kits can affect RT performance as well.

 

[Vasto]

Nah, I want real Ray Tracing.

 

[Warnen]

It really depends if there's something that's making RT more difficult on the more powerful hardware. Remember issues with the dev kits can affect RT performance as well.

 

[onQ123]

Besides the Xbox Series X being more powerful hardware? Guess I don't have any. It's a graphical effect not magic. If one system with the proper hardware can do it, the other with better hardware can do it as well.


Jesus the console warring horse shit has to stop at some point right?

Xbox Series X does not have better hardware it just have higher compute FLOPS numbers PS5 has the better rendering output I been telling people this for months

 

[MasterCornholio]

I mean why else would DMC:SE not have RT at launch on the Xbox? Heck before the delay Halo Infinite was supposed to get RT via a patch. Hardware isn't everything.

At the moment we have seen more demonstrations of RT from Sonys 1st parties than Microsoft. I'm not saying it's the hardware that's the problem but the GDK was known to cause some issues as stated by Digital Foundry.

 

[Warnen]

I mean why else would DMC:SE not have RT at launch on the Xbox? Heck before the delay Halo Infinite was supposed to get RT via a patch. Hardware isn't everything.

it's not on the PC either guess the Ps5 is better then a RTX 3090. Surely it's not the money.....

 

[geordiemp]

Besides the Xbox Series X being more powerful hardware? Guess I don't have any. It's a graphical effect not magic. If one system with the proper hardware can do it, the other with better hardware can do it as well.


Jesus the console warring horse shit has to stop at some point right?

When asked for evidence to back your power with no proof claim, you complain about console warring.

RT takes allot of power, not just TF power also effective Caches with fast access to data for BVH.

Show dont tell.

 

[MasterCornholio]

it's not on the PC either guess the Ps5 is better then a RTX 3090. Surely it's not the money.....

No but PC is included in the GDK so there's that.

 

[oldergamer]

No and id be willing to bet by mid next year there will be more titles using RT on xbox then there are on ps5

 

[GHG]

This didn't age well.

I suspect there's a lot more to come in the next month or so as well.

As a wise man once said:

 

[Closer]

If you ignore whatever is happening on PC space, then I mean, yes, you can say Sony 1st party are flag bearers. Otherwise, it's just selective Focus.

 

[reinking]

SOME PCs will have better. Some of us scrubs are at least a year away from having a fancy GPU upgrade that can pull off better rtx/performance than the consoles.

 

[Damigos]

PS5 exclusives will be the flag bearers not only for ray tracing. Exactly like on PS4

 

[danielJackson]

the cat game aka stray will be the best game and best looking game of launch year

 

[Esppiral]

Jesús Christ the hyperbole

 

[geordiemp]

the cat game aka stray will be the best game and best looking game of launch year

There was some nice lighting in that game

 

[Physiognomonics]

A bit too soon for this.

PS5's clock speed will be better for some types of ray-tracing.

XSXs compute unit will also very good for certain types of ray-tracing.

How is that too soon? The only thing that matter are the actual graphics in games they show (running on actual hardware plz, not 2080ti). Theoretical specs mean nothing.

 

[sircaw]

There was some nice lighting in that game

fucking cats, i hate em but that game does look rather good in the lighting department.

 

[The_Mike]

 

[Ascend]

Xbox Series X does not have better hardware it just have higher compute FLOPS numbers PS5 has the better rendering output I been telling people this for months

Neither console will be great at ray tracing. But the XSX will still have the RT advantage most likely.

 

[onQ123]

Neither console will be great at ray tracing. But the XSX will still have the RT advantage most likely.

You say this without any proof , So far it is PS5 games showing off RT while devs are still tying to get it together on Xbox Series X/S

 

[Ogbert]

They'll make a big deal out of it. At the same time, none of their graphical showcases will run at 60fps.

 

[Warnen]

Sub 30fps flagship games! What a time to be alive.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Sub 30fps flagship games! What a time to be alive.

What's the average FPS then? There's also a 60FPS mode for the game.

 

[Agnostic2020]

No and id be willing to bet by mid next year there will be more titles using RT on xbox then there are on ps5

Wait till next year. Where have I heard that before

 

[Warnen]

What's the average FPS then? There's also a 60FPS mode for the game.

for me? Most of my games hit 120-140ish. Above 60 that's for sure.

 

[Warnen]

Wait till next year. Where have I heard that before

it was about how long for days gone to become playable, that's prob where you heard it.

 

[Agnostic2020]

it was about how long for days gone to become playable, that's prob where you heard it.

Look at you being passive aggressivly negative about ps . How unusual. Its a joke at this point reading ur posts.

 

[MasterCornholio]

for me? Most of my games hit 120-140ish. Above 60 that's for sure.

No I was talking about the footage. I mean this is a console and not a gaming PC if you didn't know.

 

[Warnen]

Look at you being passive aggressivly negative about ps . How unusual. Its a joke at this point reading ur posts.

Nah just salty I paid for a broken game, wounds take long to heal. I expect more from a 1st party game then floors and texture not loading in.

 

[Agnostic2020]

No I was talking about the footage. I mean this is a console and not a gaming PC if you didn't know.

Doesn't matter. He will post negatively on anything related to ps and always overly positive about xbox. Looking at his post history should tell u all u need to know.