One thing I should mention, and people would know if they were watching the GT live stream post conference is what EPIC's Mark Rein said about the RAM situation. He made the analogy of Sony answering their love letter. It could mean great things down the line for Sony especially when it comes to running games built on UE4.
PS4 has 8 GB OF GDDR5 RAM
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RAM is one of the most important things you can have for true open world games. Both amount and speed, which 8GB of GDDR5 more than provides in both categories.
The real question is if 720 has a lot less than this, will games be developed with the lowest common denominator in mind or will they actually take advantage of Sony's RAM?
maquiladora
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Next. Fucking. Generation.
SniperHunter
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Did he really day that? I didnt see much ue4 stuff
There is no other explanation. I wonder how they will keep this thing cool.
8GB GDDR5 trully unified (without even edram or DDR3) is truly good thing for developers.
gundamkyoukai
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EDGE was right and GopherD even hint at it .
Yeah edge said that it little bit more power full but unless MS step it up i can see mutil platform games looking best on PS4 as time goes by .
muddafadda
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Day 1 for me regardless.
8GB RAM is just icing on top.
8GB RAM is just icing on top.
but i was told diminishing returns?
And this is just one of the first wave of games for the PS4.
Pretty much the poster GIF for next gen. I'd be shocked if anything surpasses that for launch window.
clutch.as.it.gets.
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Haha, yeah, 2 GB max; Crytek don`t know shit...
Very happy about the news. 8 GB of fucking gddr 5!!! That will be so huge for Sony, if MS stays with ddr 3.
TheLaughingStock
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Sony Santa Monica + 8GB of ram will be glorious.
captainraincoat
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$699 to $799 would be a rough guess of the console price..may be higher ddr5 is very expensive and I dont see sony taking a $500 loss on each console with their bank balance...the ram itself would be around $500 and the complexities of manufacturing on a board for a console seem troublesome.my gut feel is we will see a revision down the track...hd specs are also not there which means it may not be final
Yea, it was in the post launch section where Geoff met up with multiple people (from Blizzard, Bethesda, Ubisoft and Epic). When Geoff pressed to know if MS also answered their "love letter" he said that he could only say that Sony has answered for now.
The Bookerman
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And this is just one of the first wave of games for the PS4.
Remember, this game isn't even in alpha stage. It'll get polished up before it gets released.
metalslimer
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And that's just the launch window. Has anyone gone back and seen how ugly Resistance looks compared to some games even 9 months later?
clutch.as.it.gets.
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Yes, and let´s just hope they were right with no always online and allowed used games.
Portugeezer
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My thoughts exactly.
Thunder Monkey
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I take offense at the idea that loading times are a thing of the past though.
Maybe if all of your software is running off the HDD. But you've still got a pretty large limiter in disc drives.
True enough, though the profit margin on those cards is insane and a huge chunk of the actual costs is in those fat GPUs.
Unless I'm mistaken, this would allow something like Uncharted to have full blown ruins, towns, and the like. Ignoring development costs/hours, Drake in a Zelda-style dungeon would be something.
If that proves to be the case, maybe we'll at least see better performance. The speed alone should have a big impact.
RatskyWatsky
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That...sounds like a lot? I don't know anything about RAM but the reactions in this thread have me really excited.
All it takes is slightly longer initial loading then streaming everything. Definitely doable.
The Nvidia Titan, a limited production Videocard announced this week, which is going to retail for one thousand dollars, has 6gig of GDDR5 in it: http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/19/nvidias-gtx-titan-supercomputer-gpu-revealed
You're telling me that Sony is making 8gig of that same memory on all of their PS4 consoles coming out between November and December?
I doubt it, but it will be amazing to see what happens from now on.
You're telling me that Sony is making 8gig of that same memory on all of their PS4 consoles coming out between November and December?
I doubt it, but it will be amazing to see what happens from now on.
RAM is the only area > PC. The rest of the specs a high end PC laughs at.
PC games will benefit greatly from the jump to next gen.
Windom Earle
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So let's say the extra 4GB of RAM adds $100 to the cost. For a console with at least 5-6 years of life, I'd say that's not a bad tradeoff for how big of a deal this seems to be. Less than two games.
But yeah, average consumer won't understand.
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for perspective, the $1000 nvidia gtx titan graphics card has 6.
Zombie James
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Can I take a look at your memory price sheet, please?
Suicide for Sony. MS would be laughing to the bank.
KZObsessed
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I'm actually still in shock over this. I hate the term megaton but yeah.
I need to sleep.
I need to sleep.
Thunder Monkey
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Yes, but that's still not the same thing as "Long loading times are a thing of the past".
giant_frying_pan
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GribbleGrunger
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Sony confirmed it was DDR5
IrishNinja
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goddamn. how much are they gonna bleed on a potentially $400 unit with this, though?
Pertaining to the price, remember that Sony will sell at a loss. However, given the support they have been garnering, they are gambling on the pay off in the long run.
And pertaining to people's fear about the hardware costing north of $500, I think it will not happen primarily because of the tech possibilities that will be ushered in the next two years in the form of DDR3. I have read here on multiple occasions here that when ready, Sony could swap out GDDR5 for DDR3 with 1024 bit I/O (bus width) and down clock it (or not) to match the 176GB/sec figure. That will make things much cheaper and cooler in the long run when they may even switch to DDR4 further down the line with the same integration principle.
And pertaining to people's fear about the hardware costing north of $500, I think it will not happen primarily because of the tech possibilities that will be ushered in the next two years in the form of DDR3. I have read here on multiple occasions here that when ready, Sony could swap out GDDR5 for DDR3 with 1024 bit I/O (bus width) and down clock it (or not) to match the 176GB/sec figure. That will make things much cheaper and cooler in the long run when they may even switch to DDR4 further down the line with the same integration principle.
Xplatformer
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This is what I was thinking. I'm waiting for some answers why 8GB isn't better than 4GB other than cost and heat.
soundahfekz
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And this is just one of the first wave of games for the PS4.
I need this shit in my veins
smh @ thuway and the others. just proves that everyone that knows what's up won't be talking about it. The rest are about attention it seems