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2011 NBA Playoffs |OT| Don't Compare Refs to Cigarettes

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TheGreatMightyPoo

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dream said:
That's part of the problem though. He doesn't set his teammates up.

Look at Chris Paul in game 1...he was able to get good looks for even his scrubbiest teammates. That's what a good point guard does.
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What about the times Derrick does give them good looks and they fail???

Not all on him, he can pass the ball but he's a different passer than most true point guards, he mostly dishes off of creating penetration and the attention he gets.
 
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Sanjuro Tsubaki said:
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Seriously who played the hawks?!?! The bulls back in 98? Umm no...
 
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ItWasMeantToBe19

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Rose is not a pure point guard, it doesn't matter. Pure points don't win in the NBA now. Deng has got to step up for the Bulls to win in the playoffs, that's the issue. Paul George is defending Rose extremely well so Rose is having issues, it's not that big of a deal.
 
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Doesnt really matter if he is a Pure PG or not really.. Ron Harper wasn't a real PG either. If it works for them, more power to them..
 
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TheGreatMightyPoo said:
What about the times Derrick does give them good looks and they fail???

Not all on him, he can pass the ball but he's a different passer than most true point guards, he mostly dishes off of creating penetration and the attention he gets.
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I think we're arguing the same thing. Dude's a combo guard.
 
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SoulPlaya

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People should have seen this coming considering the last Bulls/Pacers game in Indiana. The Pacers have the right match up, but in the end, they are up 2-0.
 
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THRILLH0

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dream said:
That's part of the problem though. He doesn't set his teammates up.

Look at Chris Paul in game 1...he was able to get good looks for even his scrubbiest teammates. That's what a good point guard does.
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He averaged nearly 8 dimes during the season, 6 in the last 2 games and has carried the Bulls to 2 wins. What do you want?

There's nobody in the NBA who can get their shot of like Rose at the moment. Likewise there's noone who can stop him doing it. Why on earth should he discard his greatest advantage over the opposition?

Talk to me about setting team mates up when Paul's fishing next week and Rose is getting ready for the Magic.
 
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TheGreatMightyPoo

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SephCast said:
FTA disparity was basically nonexistant this game. 34-27. Bulls had more FGA.
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Don't tell that to NBA-Gaf, every blown call that goes in favor of the favorite is noted and every one that goes against the team people don't hate on is selectively amnesia-ized.
 
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TheGreatMightyPoo said:
What about the times Derrick does give them good looks and they fail???

Not all on him, he can pass the ball but he's a different passer than most true point guards, he mostly dishes off of creating penetration and the attention he gets.
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Different passer lulz. Every scoring point with shitty court-vision distributes off of penetrations.
 
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THRILLH0

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dream said:
I think we're arguing the same thing. Dude's a combo guard.
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Where you one of those guys who spent a year lobbying for Metroid Prime to be classified as a First Person Adventure like it actually mattered for something?

Who cares if he's a combo-guard?
 
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TheGreatMightyPoo

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dream said:
I think we're arguing the same thing. Dude's a combo guard.
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Yeah, I always knew/thought that and for this team, it's the perfect role.

I never considered him the same as a Chris Paul or Steve Nash but he can dominate games as well as he proves all the time.

Labels don't mean shit, winning games does.
 
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SephCast

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TheGreatMightyPoo said:
Don't tell that to NBA-Gaf, every blown call that goes in favor of the favorite is noted and every one that goes against the team people don't hate on is selectively amnesia-ized.
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Gotta roll through the Gafhate punches. I usually post during non-gametimes because I feel it's at least a little bit more logical during those times.
 
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SoulPlaya

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Luol Deng was 23% from the field, Noah was 20% (2 of 10), Bogans was 20%. Rose was 44%. Boozer was 50%.

Deng needs to play better, and Noah needs to get his usual shots.
 
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TheGreatMightyPoo

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SephCast said:
Gotta roll through the Gafhate punches. I usually post during non-gametimes because I feel it's at least a little bit more logical during those times.
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Not all here hate the Bulls but it's not at all surprising that some are bitter about them.

If it bothers you genuinely as a Bulls' fan, you need to look yourself in the mirror.
 
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SephCast

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TheGreatMightyPoo said:
Every scoring point guard doesn't draw 4 guys on them.

GIMME DA HOT SAUCE, KORVER.
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Can we talk about how the Korver 3 was purely amazing basketball? Hansbrough comes on the trap, Rose sees it early, dishes to Noah. Noah draws the help D (for no fucking reason since he wouldn't have hit that layup), and dishes to Korver. Hotsauce.
 
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TheGreatMightyPoo

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SoulPlaya said:
Luol Deng was 23% from the field, Noah was 20% (2 of 10), Bogans was 20%. Rose was 44%. Boozer was 50%.

Deng needs to play better, and Noah needs to get his usual shots.
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I like what Deng did in the game on the defensive end, can't bitch about him much but yeah, his offense needs to make a re-appearance as he's the real second option on the team on that side of the ball.

Not worried about Noah, just worried that Thibodeau isn't playing him enough though Taj doesn't get enough himself in my mind and Kurt Thomas always does well.
 
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SephCast

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TheGreatMightyPoo said:
Not all here hate the Bulls but it's not at all surprising that some are bitter about them.

If it bothers you genuinely as a Bulls' fan, you need to look yourself in the mirror.
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Haha yeah, it doesn't bother me at all. I'd be more mad if people just didn't talk about the Bulls at all.
 
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TheGreatMightyPoo

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SephCast said:
Can we talk about how the Korver 3 was purely amazing basketball? Hansbrough comes on the trap, Rose sees it early, dishes to Noah. Noah draws the help D (for no fucking reason since he wouldn't have hit that layup), and dishes to Korver. Hotsauce.
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Very telling when one guy causes a team to constantly leave open the best shooter on the court.
 
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SoulPlaya

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TheGreatMightyPoo said:
I like what Deng did in the game on the defensive end, can't bitch about him much but yeah, his offense needs to make a re-appearance as he's the real second option on the team on that side of the ball.

Not worried about Noah, just worried that Thibodeau isn't playing him enough though Taj doesn't get enough himself in my mind and Kurt Thomas always does well.
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I don't blame not playing Taj, as Boozer was playing well (even decently defensively). The problem with putting Noah in is that he has a tendency to get into foul trouble quickly, and you don't want to risk that, especially when you have a great backup in Thomas.
 
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SephCast

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TheGreatMightyPoo said:
Very telling when one guy causes a team to constantly leave open the best shooter on the court.
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Korver's been evoking some crazy Paxson/Kerr vibes so far. 2 games in a row.
 
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TheGreatMightyPoo

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Korver's been evoking some crazy Paxson/Kerr vibes so far. 2 games in a row.
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Korver is one guy I don't care if he goes 0-5 because he's still the second best option I want shooting a jumper(I was 100% sure Derrick's late jumper was in because of the timing) in a close game.

I never think he takes bad shots, shoot away.
 
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The Frankman

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Red Blaster said:
Lost their starting point guard, have a 20 rebound deficit and are playing 8 on 5. Possibly everything possible could go wrong for the Knicks tonight and the Bulls are still struggling to take them out.
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See what I did thar?
TheGreatMightyPoo said:
Bill Walker stole it.
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THRILLH0

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Red Blaster said:
Lulz, Rose palms the ball exactly like AI
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Take a look at the Chris "Pure Point" Paul gifs from the laker game.

The hate is hilarious. Even if the Bulls don't win it all this year, the way salty-gaf is rushing to denigrate his achievements will make the season worthwhile.
 
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Red Blaster

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AShep said:
Take a look at the Chris "Pure Point" Paul gifs from the laker game.

The hate is hilarious. Even if the Bulls don't win it all this year, the way salty-gaf is rushing to denigrate his achievements will make the season worthwhile.
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Yeah those gifs are amazing, making Aaron Gray and Willie Green look like valuable rotation players and all.
 
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THRILLH0

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ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
Rose is a fine passer but using APG to confirm that is lame, you can be a terrible passer and still average 7 APG penetrating at point.
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It was only in response to the "lolz more rebs than assists!!" crowd...

I love that doing whatever you can to help your team win is suddenly indicative of not being great at your position.

Yeah those gifs are amazing, making Aaron Gray and Willie Green look like valuable rotation players and all.
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Kind of the way Rose took Keith Bogans to the number 1 seed.
 
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SamuraiX-

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I honestly think the Bulls would be better right now if they gave Boozer's money to Ben Gordon and just went with Taj Gibson starting at PF.
 
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TheGreatMightyPoo

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SamuraiX- said:
I honestly think the Bulls would be better right now if they gave Boozer's money to Ben Gordon and just went with Taj Gibson starting at PF.
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Taj is starter quality for sure.

Obviously he has a better overall game than Boozer but I'm not sure who has the bettwer offensive skillset(Boozer has better touch around the basket when he holds onto the ball).
 
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SamuraiX- said:
I honestly think the Bulls would be better right now if they gave Boozer's money to Ben Gordon and just went with Taj Gibson starting at PF.
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Boozer is a barely MLE player in terms of actual impact. Gordon would be invaluable to the Bulls.
 
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