I could always post the video where Wade commits the offensive foul in game 5 if that's what you want.
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2013 Jan NBA Season lOT| Beautiful Black Bodies on Top
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I could always post the video where Wade commits the offensive foul in game 5 if that's what you want.
Psychological Intellect
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i saw kobe do it once. but you've been watching the lakers for ages i guess. I've seen KD do it like 5 times this season so far.LOL how about no. That still belongs to kobe bryant. I hate the guy but his offensive set it on another level.
EDIT: And kobe has been doing the one legged jumper for ages.
He shot 13-31 last night. It's impossible to shoot your team out of the game when the refs will gift you 20 points.
I'll be surprised if y'all lose.
Kobe doesn't even get to the line like he used to though.
Black Mamba
Member
Yes, he has the dirk one-legged fadeaway and I think Durant tried to learn it from him this summer.
Kobe clearly has the most offensive skills in the NBA, he's just not capable of being as efficient as guys like Durant because Durant's length + athleticism allows him to get to the rim at a ridiculous rate (that and he takes some bad shots). I also don't think jumping higher on dunks is a separating skill.
Both sides are going crazy here. Durant is much more skilled these days than being solely a jump shooter. Durant has added a mid-post game and is much improved off the dribble and with the PnR. He has a very good offensive arsenal (I think Melo has more in his arsenal as well, though). Lebron no longer solely relies on bull-rushing and jump shots, either. He's learned how to post up smaller guys and play a little bit better off ball.
Some people are stuck in what these guys used to be and refuse to admit they've improved significantly.
I also don't mind Durant's fouls much. It's mostly a product of his length + athleticism. He gets to the paint and it's really tough not to foul him with those freakish arms. Most of the time Durant is legit fouled.
I think it's different than Lebron whose bull-rushes are not defensive fouls when the other player is backing away. I think that's a ridiculous call that needs to be changed (Westbrook gets this one too) back to what it once was (nothing or offensive foul). The offensive player is initiating all the contact. (this is not a problem of Lebron getting superstar calls but rather the refs universally fucking this up)
But in general, the notion that superstars get all the calls and whining about it is dumb. Superstars get the calls because they get fouled because they are amazing at basketball and put the defense in spots that make them get fouled. It is not because the NBA decided to put them on the line. Getting to the line a lot is part of being a superstar.
Kobe did that dirk fade away ALOT last year especially since that was the year after he got eliminated by dirk in the playoffs.
Psychological Intellect
Banned
i see, thanks. Only remember it from that gif.
Red Blaster
Member
what a coincidence, after getting eliminated by Westbrook last year he's taken to freezing out his teammates more often
ratcliffja
Member
The funny thing is that Collison has played really, really well for the Mavs, but they still refuse to play him in crunch time for whatever reason.
That's cool man and ignore the other 47 minutes and 55 seconds of basketball that were played. I dig it.
Because Rick Carlisle.
You make a mistake in crunch time as a young player? To the doghouse with you.
You make a mistake in crunch time as a veteran? It's a sign of effort.
People like you take so much out of your day and energy to hate on one player. Find something better to do with your time.
Only if you started watching him in 2013.
Knux-Future
Banned
Let's talk about Jrue Holiday.
Allstar or not?
it's all I have left to root for man.
Allstar or not?
it's all I have left to root for man.
I don't think that took much time and energy...
Oh yeah, absolutely, he deserves it. Not sure he'll get it though. Eventually he will.
goddamnn
thanks chicago
Can't believe he got that shot. Great game.
LegendofJoe
Member
It usually takes a year or two for the average fan to discover a good player that isn't in a big market. I blame EShitPN.
lol, it isn't ESPN's responsibility to do that. ESPN's responsibility is to get as many viewers to watch their shit. And it's working.
Dominican Power
Member
He's making the reserves fool. What other PG in the east is better?
Mourning didn't get enough credit at all in that series.
Mavs probably take trophy home that year if it was only Wade and Shaq.
Future PhaZe
Member
yeah he's going to make it
Big Drew is coming back and I think you'll enjoy his play. Stay strong.
shira
Member
Hahaha 2nd official NBA apology for the Raps for a miscall costing them a tank.
http://nba.si.com/2013/01/18/raptors-bulls-nba-referees-wrong-call/?sct=uk_t2_a11
Is it 6 apologies for a contraction?
http://nba.si.com/2013/01/18/raptors-bulls-nba-referees-wrong-call/?sct=uk_t2_a11
Is it 6 apologies for a contraction?
Psychological Intellect
Banned
bobcats to get 2 wins straight tonight
LiveFromKyoto
Member
Every fan is convinced their team gets jobbed by the refs, but I don't know if any other team gets so little respect from them that every year the league issues multiple apologies for it.
Want to guess what team Chris Johnson played for last year?
Dominican Power
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KD's game is still primarily 3s, fts and drives. In that order lol.
heyday
No one has Kobe's offensive skillset and shot-making ability (Not even Jordan). He'd be as efficient as Bron and KD if he got the ridiculous calls they do
Because Kobe never got calls back in his heyday? KD is efficient because of his shooting and the unique abilities that he possesses at his height. When has Kobe ever been as efficient as KD in his prime? KD definitely runs the floor better than Kobe too.
Herpes Reasons
Banned
this infuriates me as im sure it does to others.
how does acknowledging a blown call after the fact affect a game?
penalize the refs, cut their pay. do something.
KD's game is still primarily 3s, fts and drives. In that order lol.
No one has Kobe's offensive skillset and shot-making ability (Not even Jordan). He'd be as efficient as Bron and KD if he got the ridiculous calls they do
He did once upon a time get the ridiculous calls they do. Now he's old and nothing more than a long 2 point chucking machine
mhi
Member
None. He's played better than Rondo who's starting.
shira
Member
It's the thought that counts.
iamshadowlark
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Lmao brandy is one of the whiniest sour pusses I've ever seen. Every other posy is him/her bitching about something else. I don't know too many mavs fans that don't admit they choked in 2006, regardless of what happened in game 5. Especially since they got their payback.
Kobe has never got fts the way KD and LeBron do. His highest rate was 10.2 FTA on 27.2 FGA. Durant is at 9.1 this year on 18.5. (He's had 10.2 on 20.3 in the past)
Black Mamba
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Kobe never went to the paint as much as they did. He wasn't given their physical gifts.
LegendofJoe
Member
You've just jinxed us. Cousins will probably get 30 and 20 tonight against us. I'd like to see MKG break through the rookie wall he's hit though. Dude hasn't looked like himself since the first half of the Celtics game.
Conflict NZ
Member
Don't forget the Pacers series before that, the refs had to get really creative in that one to allow Miami to win that series.
Bullshit. Kobe went in the paint as much as KD does now in his prime
Black Mamba
Member
Kobe had 63 dunks in 2005-06. Durant has 64 already this season.
Durant has always attacked the basket directly more.
Adam Blade
WWKC
Are you ready, Snark?
ItWasMeantToBe19
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JRue probably has been good enough individually to make the all-star team, but I hate the idea of the PG of the third worst offense in the NBA (probably second worst now that the Wizards are healthy) making the all-star team. I feel like PGs should be able to elevate their offense past that even if their teammates are not very good.
Al and Millsap probably would be involved in a lot more stupid debates if they were in big markets with how skilled and clutch they are though.
I don't know if Durant's game is really that diverse in terms of setup moves, but his size and athleticism are overwhelming enough to get a good shot whenever and his touch is awesome everywhere so he makes shots at a historic level.
Style doesn't matter that much compared to effectiveness.
Al and Millsap probably would be involved in a lot more stupid debates if they were in big markets with how skilled and clutch they are though.
I don't know if Durant's game is really that diverse in terms of setup moves, but his size and athleticism are overwhelming enough to get a good shot whenever and his touch is awesome everywhere so he makes shots at a historic level.
Style doesn't matter that much compared to effectiveness.
This is silly. I would bet a LOT of those dunks are fastbreak dunks off steals. Lakers have never been a fastbreak team in the Kobe era.
Also, you can't use dunks as a metric for aggressiveness at the rim. For example, a guy like Rondo probably has more points in the paint than most guards but he rarely dunks.
The only difference btw. prime Kobe and today's superstars is that he always attacked the basket with the intent to actually score the ball so he rarely initiated the contact. These days, guys are rewarded with fts for blatant offensive fouls if they're a big enough name..