Ant-Man |Spoiler Thread| I Think Our First Move Should Be Calling The Avengers
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Wasp suit reveal for Hope and a clip from civil war with Bucky, Falcon, and Cap
tauroxd
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Of course it was. I hate all that TOO obvious stuff, there are better ways to let you know something exist an it will make sense talking about it again without doing a 2 second detail shot of that thing (tanks) and repeating something more than two times (subatomic).
I hate that way of introducing stuff because it robs you of the surprise and part of the emotion of seeing those things come to life.
Anyway, I liked the movie, I was expecting a trainwreck
HA. HAH!
Escape Goat
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Me too. It surprised me!
I found the film thoroughly enjoyable and had a smile on my face from start to finish.
It may not be Winter Soldier-tier, but it's probably my 3rd favorite of the Phase 2 films, right behind Guardians of the Galaxy.
Final fight was insanely creative. I don't see why people are saying stuff was "predictable" with the tank or the sub-atomic world. That was supposed to be predictable; it's foreshadowing 101.
It had PLENTY of genuine surprises throughout the film, especially in the third act.
It may not be Winter Soldier-tier, but it's probably my 3rd favorite of the Phase 2 films, right behind Guardians of the Galaxy.
Final fight was insanely creative. I don't see why people are saying stuff was "predictable" with the tank or the sub-atomic world. That was supposed to be predictable; it's foreshadowing 101.
It had PLENTY of genuine surprises throughout the film, especially in the third act.
Just came back, great GREAT film. 9 / 10 for me. Surpsingly funny, THAT POST CREDITS SCENE!
Michael Pena's character basically reference Spider Man at the end right? When he's explaining who Falcon is looking for? Somebody who can walk on walls?
Plus the Hydra guy got away with some of the Yellow Jacket formula right?
Michael Pena's character basically reference Spider Man at the end right? When he's explaining who Falcon is looking for? Somebody who can walk on walls?
Plus the Hydra guy got away with some of the Yellow Jacket formula right?
Maybe I missed something but didn't the tank keychain only come up literally seconds before he grew to bigger size? I don't remember it being introduced earlier in the film.
I'm pretty sure it's in the very first scene.
Escape Goat
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It was shown casually a couple times.
Scientist Supreme!
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When pym visited pym tech at the beginning and when Scott broke in hank's house.
Camera fixates on it both times Pym goes through security to go into the Pym tech building and when Scott uses it to open the basement door.
Aww, man.
friskykillface
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Haha captain gonna be mad falcon lost that fight
Movie surprised me, really expected a struggling marvel movie but I liked it , pace wasn't slow, great casting and the shrinking scenes were great
Man that guy getting turned to goo then wiped and flushed made me go damn D:
Haha captain gonna be mad falcon lost that fight
Movie surprised me, really expected a struggling marvel movie but I liked it , pace wasn't slow, great casting and the shrinking scenes were great
Man that guy getting turned to goo then wiped and flushed made me go damn D:
Mister Wilhelm
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That was one of the best parts of the movie and I agree.
Affeinvasion
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At the very beginning of the film it shows the tank when Pym is going through security. But that is set up as a hint to show that Lang is actually breaking into Pym's house and not some random old guy. When you see the tank you remember it not because it's super important for the reason that it's a real tank but because it had some other narrative show don't tell purpose earlier in the film. I thought it was rather clever film making actually.
PeskyToaster
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I thought it was good. I feel like Esgar Wright's hand was definitely visible in quite a few aspects of the movie. I think it needed more but definitely a good movie.
Truly disturbing-someone else mentioned earlier-it's "Body Horror", and it's true.
On GAF, "foreshadowing" is "being predictable"
He was very cute. There was a quick scene during the training montage where Antony playfully nudges Scott and Scott says "You're a good boy, Antony."
You also see the same tank I believe in the slideshow of photos showing the original Ant Man in action.
If there is groundwork laid, it's "predictable bullshit".
If there is no groundwork laid, it's "deus ex machina bullshit"
All we need to figure out quantum mechanics is contained within the "I want plot points to be both supported and not supported" superposition.
Scientist Supreme!
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I wonder if Edgar Wright has seen it and what he thinks of it.
Did Yellow Jacket go sub atomic or did his body implode like his research facility?
How many Marvel movie villains are actually confirmed dead?
Abomination is alive
Mandarin is alive
Not entirely sure if Ultron is dead or was absorbed by Vision
Ronan is dead
Iron Monger is dead?
Whiplash
How many Marvel movie villains are actually confirmed dead?
Abomination is alive
Mandarin is alive
Not entirely sure if Ultron is dead or was absorbed by Vision
Ronan is dead
Iron Monger is dead?
Whiplash
I'm thinking since Pym and Strange aren't origin stories I think there will be a scene in Dr. Strange of him helping Pym to bring back Janet or at least paperwork or books around about the quantum realm
I don't think being predictable is necessarily a bad thing. As I said, I think the tank and going subatomic were obvious, but it didn't detract from anything as you didn't know how and when they were going to be used.
Bad predictability or foreshadowing is like the cliched "hey lets linger unnecessarily on this knifeblock in the kitchen spoiling both the fact that our protagonist is about to be attacked and will use a knife at some point". Or like in the opening scene in Olympus Has Fallen where you can guess who the "bad guy" is in the first 60 seconds.
The ping pong paddle scene was really, really satsifying. Lol.
sleverfunk
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iirc correctly didnt the former shield guy (who got his faced wrecked by pym) got one pym particle serum? What happened to him?
tauroxd
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Like I said before, don't repeat so many times something, it will be obvious that it will play a role in the movie later on. Where is the fun and surprise when you see those things if they were hinted a lot? Make sure people know about it, show the tank in the beggining, no more than that, talk about Jane going subatomic, then say that the regulator is the thing that stop that from happening,
But I'm aware that I am a special case, I have any kind of spoiler, I don't watch trailers and avoid movie news as much as I can, so being "spoiled" in the movie about something that will happen later on is something I really hate.
Probably I'm talking like someone who disliked the movie, but that's not thte thing, I really like it, the cast was so good, and the macro photography was really amazing... It tust that I'm using the movie to vent problems for all movies and series that make things too obvious and then they don't surprise or amaze you when they happen.
Excuse me?
bearythebear
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The movie is pretty decent.
I thought the Avengers fight scene felt very budget. There was literately one dude in the Avengers facility, and the scene is just a fight in a grass field.
I thought the Avengers fight scene felt very budget. There was literately one dude in the Avengers facility, and the scene is just a fight in a grass field.
But is Ronan really dead? I had always assumed he was sucked into the soul gem and not actually dead.
Yeah I just have this feeling that sometime in Infinity War Parts 1 and 2 Thanos will resurrect these baddies or bring them back to life to fight for him.
Zola might not be dead. There could be backups. Well, I guess the actual person is dead. But whatever.
I always assumed Zola wasn't dead. Just uploaded himself into that USB stick widow plugged into the interface at the very least
SporeCrawler
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I feel the same.. Movie was kickass
2002whitegt
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He took the serum and ran out of the room, was never seen again.
SporeCrawler
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completely disagree the movie was the funniest marvel film in ages. Partly also because it was enjoyable without knowing all the previous films and being focused on A few characters.
Also you do realize that winter soldier is returning and that there is going to be a stand alone black panther film
SporeCrawler
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Great movie. It got me really excited for phase 3.
I always do this to myself but I hoped for a Spider-Man after credit scene and left disappointed. That reference was great though. Also is it true that the post credit scene is a straight up scene from Civil War? The cinematography was vastly different.
I always do this to myself but I hoped for a Spider-Man after credit scene and left disappointed. That reference was great though. Also is it true that the post credit scene is a straight up scene from Civil War? The cinematography was vastly different.
SporeCrawler
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Same with my wife. She expected nothing but came out pleasantly surprised. She actually thinks its her favorite marvel movie.
Yes
Callibretto
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Hope suit in mid credit scene had mask I think, although I guess they could tweak it in future film and make the helmet had glass front, so you can see more of Hope's face
SporeCrawler
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Maybe he is going to disassemble ironman from the inside?
It was the sound it make. *PONK!*
Until proven otherwise, I'm going to continue to believe my head canon that the remains of Kilian and Zola will be combined to create MODOK.
Otherwise pym particles alters your brain waves
And yet Cross still went cray cray without actually using them till the end.
Maybe that's the point. It was never the particles, he was just plain crazy.
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