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Was the tank and subatomic parts really predictable?

Of course it was. I hate all that TOO obvious stuff, there are better ways to let you know something exist an it will make sense talking about it again without doing a 2 second detail shot of that thing (tanks) and repeating something more than two times (subatomic).

I hate that way of introducing stuff because it robs you of the surprise and part of the emotion of seeing those things come to life.

Anyway, I liked the movie, I was expecting a trainwreck
HA. HAH!
because of the lack of Wright, but it was good, funny, and with nice connections to the MCU. I'm still bitter as hell because of the lack of Edgar Wirght and I may not be in the right mind to judge the movie, but I really like it and knowing that one of the best things in the movie, Luis' tips, was not and idea from Wright and Cornish makes things less horrible becuase the knew team worked their best to have a funny script.
 
Just finished the movie. Michael Pena and Scott v Falcon were the only good parts of the whole thing. The movie was paced like ass
 
I found the film thoroughly enjoyable and had a smile on my face from start to finish.

It may not be Winter Soldier-tier, but it's probably my 3rd favorite of the Phase 2 films, right behind Guardians of the Galaxy.

Final fight was insanely creative. I don't see why people are saying stuff was "predictable" with the tank or the sub-atomic world. That was supposed to be predictable; it's foreshadowing 101.

It had PLENTY of genuine surprises throughout the film, especially in the third act.
 
Just came back, great GREAT film. 9 / 10 for me. Surpsingly funny, THAT POST CREDITS SCENE!


Michael Pena's character basically reference Spider Man at the end right? When he's explaining who Falcon is looking for? Somebody who can walk on walls?


Plus the Hydra guy got away with some of the Yellow Jacket formula right?
 
Of course it was. I hate all that TOO obvious stuff, there are better ways to let you know something exist an it will make sense talking about it again without doing a 2 second detail shot of that thing (tanks) and repeating something more than two times (subatomic).

Maybe I missed something but didn't the tank keychain only come up literally seconds before he grew to bigger size? I don't remember it being introduced earlier in the film.
 
Maybe I missed something but didn't the tank keychain only come up literally seconds before he grew to bigger size? I don't remember it being introduced earlier in the film.

Camera fixates on it both times Pym goes through security to go into the Pym tech building and when Scott uses it to open the basement door.
 
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Haha captain gonna be mad falcon lost that fight


Movie surprised me, really expected a struggling marvel movie but I liked it , pace wasn't slow, great casting and the shrinking scenes were great

Man that guy getting turned to goo then wiped and flushed made me go damn D:
 
Maybe I missed something but didn't the tank keychain only come up literally seconds before he grew to bigger size? I don't remember it being introduced earlier in the film.
At the very beginning of the film it shows the tank when Pym is going through security. But that is set up as a hint to show that Lang is actually breaking into Pym's house and not some random old guy. When you see the tank you remember it not because it's super important for the reason that it's a real tank but because it had some other narrative show don't tell purpose earlier in the film. I thought it was rather clever film making actually.
 
I thought it was good. I feel like Esgar Wright's hand was definitely visible in quite a few aspects of the movie. I think it needed more but definitely a good movie.
 
I found the film thoroughly enjoyable and had a smile on my face from start to finish.

It may not be Winter Soldier-tier, but it's probably my 3rd favorite of the Phase 2 films, right behind Guardians of the Galaxy.

Final fight was insanely creative. I don't see why people are saying stuff was "predictable" with the tank or the sub-atomic world. That was supposed to be predictable; it's foreshadowing 101.

It had PLENTY of genuine surprises throughout the film, especially in the third act.

On GAF, "foreshadowing" is "being predictable"

Antony was a true bro, he went before his time.

He was very cute. There was a quick scene during the training montage where Antony playfully nudges Scott and Scott says "You're a good boy, Antony."

:(
 
At the very beginning of the film it shows the tank when Pym is going through security. But that is set up as a hint to show that Lang is actually breaking into Pym's house and not some random old guy. When you see the tank you remember it not because it's super important for the reason that it's a real tank but because it had some other narrative show don't tell purpose earlier in the film. I thought it was rather clever film making actually.

You also see the same tank I believe in the slideshow of photos showing the original Ant Man in action.
 
I don't see why people are saying stuff was "predictable" with the tank or the sub-atomic world. That was supposed to be predictable; it's foreshadowing 101.

If there is groundwork laid, it's "predictable bullshit".

If there is no groundwork laid, it's "deus ex machina bullshit"

All we need to figure out quantum mechanics is contained within the "I want plot points to be both supported and not supported" superposition.
 
Did Yellow Jacket go sub atomic or did his body implode like his research facility?

How many Marvel movie villains are actually confirmed dead?

Abomination is alive
Mandarin is alive
Not entirely sure if Ultron is dead or was absorbed by Vision

Ronan is dead
Iron Monger is dead?
Whiplash
 
I feel like Scott going quantum is our first real introduction into the 'magic' side of the MCU that Doctor Strange will be delving full on into.

I'm thinking since Pym and Strange aren't origin stories I think there will be a scene in Dr. Strange of him helping Pym to bring back Janet or at least paperwork or books around about the quantum realm
 
If there is groundwork laid, it's "predictable bullshit".

If there is no groundwork laid, it's "deus ex machina bullshit"

All we need to figure out quantum mechanics is contained within the "I want plot points to be both supported and not supported" superposition.

I don't think being predictable is necessarily a bad thing. As I said, I think the tank and going subatomic were obvious, but it didn't detract from anything as you didn't know how and when they were going to be used.

Bad predictability or foreshadowing is like the cliched "hey lets linger unnecessarily on this knifeblock in the kitchen spoiling both the fact that our protagonist is about to be attacked and will use a knife at some point". Or like in the opening scene in Olympus Has Fallen where you can guess who the "bad guy" is in the first 60 seconds.
 
The things meant to be predictable were predictable. The things not meant to be predictable such as the briefcase, ping pong paddle, giant ant dog, etc. were not as predictable. That's what foreshadowing is. Shocking!

The ping pong paddle scene was really, really satsifying. Lol.
 
If there is groundwork laid, it's "predictable bullshit".

If there is no groundwork laid, it's "deus ex machina bullshit"

All we need to figure out quantum mechanics is contained within the "I want plot points to be both supported and not supported" superposition.

Like I said before, don't repeat so many times something, it will be obvious that it will play a role in the movie later on. Where is the fun and surprise when you see those things if they were hinted a lot? Make sure people know about it, show the tank in the beggining, no more than that, talk about Jane going subatomic, then say that the regulator is the thing that stop that from happening,

But I'm aware that I am a special case, I have any kind of spoiler, I don't watch trailers and avoid movie news as much as I can, so being "spoiled" in the movie about something that will happen later on is something I really hate.

Probably I'm talking like someone who disliked the movie, but that's not thte thing, I really like it, the cast was so good, and the macro photography was really amazing... It tust that I'm using the movie to vent problems for all movies and series that make things too obvious and then they don't surprise or amaze you when they happen.
 
Did Yellow Jacket go sub atomic or did his body implode like his research facility?

How many Marvel movie villains are actually confirmed dead?

Abomination is alive
Mandarin is alive
Not entirely sure if Ultron is dead or was absorbed by Vision

Ronan is dead
Iron Monger is dead?
Whiplash
Aldrich Killian is also dead.
Zola
Malekith
Kurse
 
The movie is pretty decent.

I thought the Avengers fight scene felt very budget. There was literately one dude in the Avengers facility, and the scene is just a fight in a grass field.
 
Did Yellow Jacket go sub atomic or did his body implode like his research facility?

How many Marvel movie villains are actually confirmed dead?

Abomination is alive
Mandarin is alive
Not entirely sure if Ultron is dead or was absorbed by Vision

Ronan is dead
Iron Monger is dead?
Whiplash
But is Ronan really dead? I had always assumed he was sucked into the soul gem and not actually dead.
 
But is Ronan really dead? I had always assumed he was sucked into the soul gem and not actually dead.

Yeah I just have this feeling that sometime in Infinity War Parts 1 and 2 Thanos will resurrect these baddies or bring them back to life to fight for him.
 
Just came back, great GREAT film. 9 / 10 for me. Surpsingly funny, THAT POST CREDITS SCENE!


Michael Pena's character basically reference Spider Man at the end right? When he's explaining who Falcon is looking for? Somebody who can walk on walls?


Plus the Hydra guy got away with some of the Yellow Jacket formula right?

I feel the same.. Movie was kickass
 
This movie. I dont know why Marvel picked Ant Man of all their properties to spend the money on for a movie. This could have been an awesome Winter Soldier movie hunting Hydra, or the Black Panther movie for some diversity atleast, but no they went with the most obscure and random hero that is rarely even used in the comics anymore. There just isnt that much to the character or his villans, Hell Hank Pym is the only thing special about Ant Man and hes the closest thing the MCU has to a Reed Richards.

The only way this movie could have tied into the MCU was to have Ultron made by Pym like in the comics. Having Stark make Ultron completely made Ant Man basically worthless as far as plot goes.

As a comedy and stand alone movie it was ok. The villan wasnt very special and his motivations were the worst in the MCU since maybe Ronin or the guy from Iron Man 3. I just honestly dont see why this character matters at all or why anyone should even care. Only Marvel knows what they are doing.
completely disagree the movie was the funniest marvel film in ages. Partly also because it was enjoyable without knowing all the previous films and being focused on A few characters.
Also you do realize that winter soldier is returning and that there is going to be a stand alone black panther film
 
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Imma miss this guy...

Every time i heard anthony i remembered.

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I was expecting to see Dr.Strange in the bizarro world helping Scott. But then I remember Benadryl Cucumbatch is the one playing him and I lost interest in seeing Strange.
 
Great movie. It got me really excited for phase 3.


I always do this to myself but I hoped for a Spider-Man after credit scene and left disappointed. That reference was great though. Also is it true that the post credit scene is a straight up scene from Civil War? The cinematography was vastly different.
 
Did they address why Hank, Scott and Jan need the masks? Also, I think Hope's suit doesn't have it unless it's more advanced?
 
My wife said the same thing last night. She said that she went to see it because I was excited, but she thought it was going to be incredibly dumb, and she was surprised when it turned out to be good.
Same with my wife. She expected nothing but came out pleasantly surprised. She actually thinks its her favorite marvel movie.
Did they address why Hank, Scott and Jan need the masks? Also, I think Hope's suit doesn't have it unless it's more advanced?

Yes
 
Did they address why Hank, Scott and Jan need the masks? Also, I think Hope's suit doesn't have it unless it's more advanced?
Hope suit in mid credit scene had mask I think, although I guess they could tweak it in future film and make the helmet had glass front, so you can see more of Hope's face
 
The ping pong paddle scene was really, really satsifying. Lol.

It was the sound it make. *PONK!*

Aldrich Killian is also dead.
Zola
Malekith
Kurse

Until proven otherwise, I'm going to continue to believe my head canon that the remains of Kilian and Zola will be combined to create MODOK.

Did they address why Hank, Scott and Jan need the masks? Also, I think Hope's suit doesn't have it unless it's more advanced?

Otherwise pym particles alters your brain waves
 
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