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Apple Watch Series 1&2 |OT| Better, Wetter
- Thread starter SuperPac
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There's a time limit on when you can purchase Apple Care + - it's like 60 days or something from first purchase. It's not meant to be an "after damage" solution, but rather more like insurance. You pay for the care, and in event of damage, you're covered.
I thought for the phones, that if you purchase after, they want a picture of the device or something to make sure you haven't damaged it already. Or maybe they just have a time limit on when you can use it after purchase, I forget.
Zeyphersan
Banned
Phones and Watches are both 60 days. If you take it into the store to buy AC+ after the fact there's an inspection that goes along with it, so it can't be already damaged. Over the phone I think they just run diagnostics, I'm not sure. Seems like an easy way to scam AppleCare so I don't know if there are any other precautions
Thanks for clarifying.
CeruleanSilver
Member
I'm considering buying a series 2 Apple Watch, mainly for tracking weight lifting at the gym and mapping my hikes outdoors.
The watch would also be a nice upgrade to my ancient iPod, which I still use to listen to music and podcasts at the gym... or so I thought. Apparently to get music on the watch you have to have it sync from your iPhone is that true? Is there really no way to sync music directly from my Mac? I don't carry any music on my iPhone, nor am I interested in doing so. It's way easier to manage my library from a real computer.
Also, to confirm: is this insane workflow still the only way to get podcasts on the Apple Watch? That's just crazy. Is there any app that solves the problem of easily getting podcasts on the watch? I did some searching and there were mentions of Overcast, but I don't think it helps with sync. Maybe this is just an area Apple closes off to developers? I'm a believer that Apple makes quality products, but sometimes their blindspots are maddening.
The watch would also be a nice upgrade to my ancient iPod, which I still use to listen to music and podcasts at the gym... or so I thought. Apparently to get music on the watch you have to have it sync from your iPhone is that true? Is there really no way to sync music directly from my Mac? I don't carry any music on my iPhone, nor am I interested in doing so. It's way easier to manage my library from a real computer.
Also, to confirm: is this insane workflow still the only way to get podcasts on the Apple Watch? That's just crazy. Is there any app that solves the problem of easily getting podcasts on the watch? I did some searching and there were mentions of Overcast, but I don't think it helps with sync. Maybe this is just an area Apple closes off to developers? I'm a believer that Apple makes quality products, but sometimes their blindspots are maddening.
Zeyphersan
Banned
The Watch isn't its own thing, it really is an accessory to an iPhone. So all data has to come through there, yes. And yes that is the method to get podcasts on the watch, there is no way for a third party app to do it since other apps can't store that kind of data on the watch itself
If you mute the group in the iPhone app, it won't show up on the Watch. But you probably want it to show up on the iPhone and not the Watch. I ended up removing WhatsApp notifications from my Watch entirely instead.No, I mean to mute notifications for a single chat/group.
In the iPhone app, you can do that.
I was wondering if it's possible to do that through the watch, as it would be terribly convenient when a group starts spamming and my wrist starts vibrating non-stop.
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Forget third parties for a moment; Apple themselves develop and release an podcast app installed by default on every iPhone. It's mind boggling that this official podcast app can't sync with the Apple watch. How out of touch are Jony Ive et al with their users' needs?
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
So my wife wants an Apple Watch. I figured you guys could help me figure some stuff out.
How resilient is the face to knocking around?
Can you text from it?
Is there a refresh expected soon?
How resilient is the face to knocking around?
Can you text from it?
Is there a refresh expected soon?
CeruleanSilver
Member
If data can be sync'd from an iPhone, so I can listen to music without the iPhone nearby, then there's no technical limitation that prevents Apple from sync'ing data from a Mac too. It's bluetooth either way.
I get that there are way more iPhones than Macs in the world, but it's a blatant omission. I guess it's just another sign of Apple neglecting the Mac in favor of mobile, which is very frustrating because I love the Apple ecosystem. I just want to run it from my Mac, not my phone!
CeruleanSilver
Member
Yeah, it's an insanely frustrating omission. If they allow sync for music, they should allow sync for podcasts. The fact that changing the file metadata's media type makes the sync possible is dumb. Shiny new toys are supposed to make life easier, not remind me of iTunes file transfer hell before iCloud was a thing.
CeruleanSilver
Member
Considering that the series 2 came out just in September 2016, it's highly unlikely there will be any hardware changes for a long time.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Excellent.
What about texting and glass durability?
Also, does anyone have an opinion on the screen size? It's only a few mm, but it's worth wondering about.
CeruleanSilver
Member
I'm not sure about texting and durability since I don't have one, I'm just considering buying one. Hopefully someone else can answer you more definitively.
However, I think you can text replies from the watch using voice dictation via Siri, or canned replies. But the watch doesn't have its own cellular connection, so your phone needs to be nearby.
For sizing, I recommend you just go into an Apple Store, Best Buy, etc, and try one on, assuming this isn't a surprise for your wife. You can also do a virtual wrist sizing via Apple's app "Apple Store", but I haven't tried it.
Screen size is fine on the 42mm. I have the stainless steel, glass is currently scratch-free, but like any other watch with sapphire glass, it'll probably shatter if it gets dropped. The aluminium uses some ion exchange glass thing.
Scribble is great for sending short texts, and there are some quick reply options. Easier to pull out the iPhone for longer messages. Can't imagine how terrible it was before Scribble was introduced.
Unfortunately not all messaging apps or apps in general have it. For example, the only way to search in the Maps app is using voice and it's a woeful experience.
jts
...hate me...
The single thing that bothers me the most about the Apple Watch needing to be charged every night is that I can not take advantage of the silent alarm, which is awesome (I've used it before with a Jawbone bracelet, and with the Apple Watch itself, but not overnight).
So much that I'll probably look for what cheap options are there in the market just for that. Don't even care much for sleep tracking, sound based sleep tracking is enough for me.
So much that I'll probably look for what cheap options are there in the market just for that. Don't even care much for sleep tracking, sound based sleep tracking is enough for me.
jts
...hate me...
Oh cool, thanks. I can definitely give that a try during next week. My fear is if reaching just about 80% daily will be enough, considering I've been getting to evenings on about 30% when I use the workout function. But it's worth a shot 👍
Yeah, it is a bit bulky and I like the Nightstand feature too. Every time when I wake up mid-sleep I automatically give a little shake to the bedside table to know what time it is lol
Jo Shishido's Cheeks
Member
I tend to watch a film most evenings when I get in so put the watch on charge then which is always enough to get it back to 100%. I wear it for about 22 hours a day now, the silent alarm is such a nice way to wake up I can't go back.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
So we ordered a Series 2 38mm for my wife today from Best Buy. Stock is still low but we should have it Wednesday!
What are some cheaper alternatives to the sport band? She wants a turquoise one. We got Apple Care just becuase her work means she may damage the glass within the 2 years or whatever. Are cases or screen protectors a necessity?
What are some cheaper alternatives to the sport band? She wants a turquoise one. We got Apple Care just becuase her work means she may damage the glass within the 2 years or whatever. Are cases or screen protectors a necessity?
Amazon has TONS of watches! Take your pick.
Nah, unless she's a wrist banger she shouldn't need any. The glass is real strong.
bodyofanamerican
Member
Any reccomendations for a sleep tracker with a Watch app? Super disappointed that Sleep Cycle doesn't support it.
Got the Shakes
Member
I've been using AutoSleep and it's been solid. It's not free though.
Zeyphersan
Banned
I bought AutoSleep but found the interface atrocious. It's only $2 so whatever but still disappointing
Jo Shishido's Cheeks
Member
AutoSleep is basic (without the corresponding HeartWatch), buggy and has a design that takes a little while to get used too but it works well, bugs aside, and has a lot of potential.
Got the Shakes
Member
The interface is terrible, but all I was really looking for was to capture accurate sleep data and have that pushed into the Health app. For that purpose it seems to work well.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Just posted this on Reddit:
Anyone able to weigh in?
Anyone able to weigh in?
They're meant to be sweat on, but I wear mine in the shower every week or so just to clean it off. Even S0s and S1s can be worn in the shower technically, even though it isn't recommended. If sweat ruined a fitness tracker it wouldn't be long for the world.
The second part, I dunno.
The One Who Knocks
Member
Can't help you for the second question but for the first, she should clean the watch after a workout to prevent damage to the watch and to avoid skin irritation (https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204522 this is also a set of instructions about how to go about cleaning the watch and bands). I would think that realistically, sweat probably won't damage the watch given that as an activity tracker it is going to be expected to come into contact with sweat, but cleaning it is definitely a good practice anyway, if only because you don't want the watch to end up smelling of sweat over time. One thing to note is that if your wife goes swimming, she should rinse it using warm water after a workout. You just need to swipe up to the control centre and select the water droplet to expel any water from the speakers after it gets wet (you can also select that before you wash it if you'd like, as it will lock the screen and prevent accidental presses as water goes over the screen).
As it's a series two, it is okay to use it in the shower, but it is important that you avoid contact with soaps or gels to avoid loosening or damaging the seals over time and degrading the water resistance (https://support.apple.com/en-ie/HT205000). Personally, I'm wary of using it in the shower due to the presence of steam, soaps/lotions/body wash, the temperature of the water, and the velocity of the water, but it is listed as okay in the support articles and there are people who have been using both the original and Series 1/2 watches in the shower since release, so your mileage on this may vary.
Where do you live? I have some JBL Everest 100 headphones that are great.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Thanks guys - I'll forward the info along to my wife. I was a bit concerned with steam and soap, so glad I'm not alone.
We're in Indy. Did a search on those...They seem nice, but $100 to test them out seems steep. Considering how particular she is with her current pair (the OG earbuds that she loves), I'm wary. You can't usually try these things on at a store, can you?
We're in Indy. Did a search on those...They seem nice, but $100 to test them out seems steep. Considering how particular she is with her current pair (the OG earbuds that she loves), I'm wary. You can't usually try these things on at a store, can you?
I mean she could try the AirPods. I don't know about the new enlongated EarPods you're referring to, since I only ever had those that came with my 5S. Shape is basically the same and often the cable tugging is what pulls them out. Also while I'm not 100% positive on this, I think you can try them in an Apple Store. Might be worth a shot since the also provide a seamless experience between Apple devices which is a nice bonus.
I bought them brand new for £40 in the UK. They might have been on sale but it's shame they're so expensive I'm the US 😣
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
The 4 and before had the old style headphones. The earbuds they have now are shaped in a way that won't stay in her ear.
Unrelated, can you disable the ability to hold the crown to bring up Siri? She likes having Siri available but the crown command is causing her trouble and unnecessary Siri activations.
I don't believe you can.
I don't recall ever having Siri activate on mine when I didn't want it. Is she wearing the watch too far up on her wrist, so what bending her hand back is pressing on it? Even doing push-ups and yoga I'm not setting it off.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
She's a physical therapist, so she's doing a lot of weird shit with her arms and hands when she works with her patients. I read online a lot of people have problems with the same thing (including during yoga and push-ups actually, ha). I wonder why they haven't built that in. It sits on her wrist comfortably and her hand presses into the button.
CeruleanSilver
Member
So with regards to getting podcasts on the watch I found this page which says:
Can anyone with an Apple Watch confirm that this is true– can I sync a playlist of arbitrary mp3 files to the watch? If so, maybe podcasts won't be a deal-breaker. Syncing a special playlist of mp3 files isn't too horrible, though it's still baffling there's no official support for this.
Zeyphersan
Banned
Yes, that would work
CeruleanSilver
Member
Have you ever done it? I'm leery of that article because it's light on details, like how does the watch know which playlists to sync? Do you have to pair your watch with your Mac first? I want to do this without using the iPhone at all.
Zeyphersan
Banned
Oh, there's no way to do it without an iPhone. Even that article uses your iPhone to actually get the podcasts on your Watch. The iPhone is the absolute only entry point and exit point for data with the Watch, there is no other way,
Through the Watch app on the phone you choose which playlists you want to sync onto the watch at any given time, so really what that method is doing is importing podcasts just as normal audio tracks into iTunes, which then get onto your iPhone to the Music app (not the Podcasts app) which you then sync to your Watch. iTunes will treat it as a song, not a podcast. It's a workaround in every sense of the word
Give up on the hope that you'll be able to sync directly from a Mac to the Watch. You can't.
The_Inquisitor
Member
I regret upgrading to my AW2. Strava still hasn't updated for standalone GPS running and has no plans for swim support. I should have instead just bought a dedicated Garmin watch that syncs to the services I use.
Not being able to sync podcasts via 3rd party apps sucks too.
Not being able to sync podcasts via 3rd party apps sucks too.
killertofu
Member
To everyone who has an Apple Watch... does anyone actually think it's good for health purposes? Workouts, counting calories, stuff like that
I like how AppleHealth ties everything together with all the different apps along with steps and heartrate info from the Watch, but if they didn't have that I'd say the watch is no better than say a FitBit.
perfect for running. Bluetooth for headphones & gps. great for workouts!!
Michael F. Assbender
Banned
I just bought one a week ago and once you get the health data set up and link it to your iPhone Health app, then start working out, it's addicting to get those rings to close every day. Having achievements doesn't hurt either.
Plus, there's something to be said for adding friends to your Activity app and comparing yourself to/challenging them. There should be a GAF group dedicated to that! Get a group of GAFfers going from mushy to hard as an anvil by January 2018.
CeruleanSilver
Member
Sad news but thanks all the same for your reply. It's good to know for sure, even if it's not what I was hoping for. I guess I'll look into other options and see if any other watches handle data sync from a computer any better.
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