Our system is being neglected to death and they're at least getting a government insurance option (which, incidentally, is what we actually have -- public insurance). I don't really consider that a non-conservative policy direction for us. Here in Alberta we're probably about to go back to regressive "premiums" even.
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Canada Poligaf - The Wrath of Harperland
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firehawk12
Subete no aware
I have friends in America who are forced to get insurance who are in a position where they can't really afford it, but aren't poor enough to get it for free, so it's just another drag on their finances.
Forcing everyone to get insurance isn't really the same as providing public health insurance, since for us, we don't really see a monthly bill for our coverage.
And I have a friend in Canada who's had debilitating back pain for years that he can't get any timely treatment for. Also, like I said, some of us do (or have or will again) have to pay premiums for our public health insurance.
Like, I agree we still have it better in a lot of ways, but the trendline is not positive here. Our government would scrap it if they could, while their executive branch of their government (a separation of powers we don't even have) would definitely institute it if they could. I'm just tired of this back patting that doesn't recognize that things *are* changing.
Like, I agree we still have it better in a lot of ways, but the trendline is not positive here. Our government would scrap it if they could, while their executive branch of their government (a separation of powers we don't even have) would definitely institute it if they could. I'm just tired of this back patting that doesn't recognize that things *are* changing.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Well, assuming you are on the lower end of the income scale, I guess it's a matter of what is "better" - waiting longer for "free" treatment, or paying for insurance that you can't really afford.
That said, I mean, a decade plus of Harper has turned out country to shit anyway.
gutter_trash
Banned
Harper is going get re elected because Justin isn't picking the right battles and isn't talking about important issues.
I am voting Liberal but it's not my job to campaign for them. That is the candidates' job.
You could say that my enthusiasm is fleeting
I am voting Liberal but it's not my job to campaign for them. That is the candidates' job.
You could say that my enthusiasm is fleeting
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Vancouver has the best climate in Canada at all seasons; more moderate summers than the sweltering middle of Canada, moderate winters, little to no snow, but snow always within driving distance.
My understanding is Victoria trumps it weather-wise, if only for having less cloud cover and rain. But I haven't spent anywhere near enough time in either city for this to be a first-hand judgement.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Meh, forget weather. I'd move to Sasketchewan if only so I could switch to Sasktel and not pay Bell 80 bucks a month for a data plan.
matthewwhatever
Member
Based on everything you've posted in this thread, your idea of the "right battles" would be for Trudeau to be obsessed with a dead/dying separatist movement, with little detours into thinly-veiled racism. I suspect the Liberals can make do without enthusiasm like yours.
The only problem with Vancouver is that it's full of Vancouverites who never fail to tell you how perfect their weather is. Though on the upside, it's just a short, cheap train ride away from Seattle and Portland, so it has that going for it.
gutter_trash
Banned
the right battles are Jobs and the Economy, the rest is just ideological gobbledygook
The rest is what will swing voters to his side.
You should look into getting on a teacher's plan if you know any teachers or even OPSEU's plan if you know any members of that. You'll get 5GB of data plus everything else (a bunch of minutes/unlimited text/caller id/voice mail) for mid-$50 a month including taxes.
Thanks for the tip. Time to get serious about life/savings/retirement to Vancouver or Victoria. Or just forget it
Look up how to get the Sasketchewan/Manitoba Koodo or Fido plans in other provinces...
gutter_trash
Banned
http://www.ekospolitics.com/index.php/2015/02/conservatives-and-liberals-locked-in-dead-heat/
the most interesting is the regional breakdown, look at the Conservatives gaining ground in Quebec with the pie cut 4 ways:
Like I said before, as long as Justin talks stupid and doesn't pick his battle intelligently, Harper will be re-elected
the most interesting is the regional breakdown, look at the Conservatives gaining ground in Quebec with the pie cut 4 ways:
Like I said before, as long as Justin talks stupid and doesn't pick his battle intelligently, Harper will be re-elected
IISANDERII
Member
Fucking Alberta
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
So, looking at the province by province shifts since 2011:
Two-party vote share:
BC: CPC -17, LPC +19
AB: CPC -16, LPC +13
SK: CPC -5, LPC +15
MB: CPC -15, LPC +20
ON: CPC -7, LPC +10
QC: CPC +6, LPC +9
Atlantic: CPC -11 from NL 2011 figures, LPC +31 from NB 2011 figures
Obviously this doesn't take into account the extent to which LPC gains are coming at the expense of the NDP, but let's not pretend this "near-draw" doesn't bode poorly for the CPC nationally.
I'm a bit busy but someone enterprising could take the provincial vote share shift and apply it at a per-riding level to get the uniform swing model seat projections.
Two-party vote share:
BC: CPC -17, LPC +19
AB: CPC -16, LPC +13
SK: CPC -5, LPC +15
MB: CPC -15, LPC +20
ON: CPC -7, LPC +10
QC: CPC +6, LPC +9
Atlantic: CPC -11 from NL 2011 figures, LPC +31 from NB 2011 figures
Obviously this doesn't take into account the extent to which LPC gains are coming at the expense of the NDP, but let's not pretend this "near-draw" doesn't bode poorly for the CPC nationally.
I'm a bit busy but someone enterprising could take the provincial vote share shift and apply it at a per-riding level to get the uniform swing model seat projections.
gutter_trash
Banned
even if Liberals tie in popular vote, they still lose in seat count.
they need to work extra hard to get a minority gov at best.
they need to work extra hard to get a minority gov at best.
You Are Viewtiful
Member
gutter_trash
Banned
Harper is using separate regional strategies to pander to different zones.
notice the uptick in Quebec; Harper is using his anti-terror bill to his advantage and to play on the fears that has been peddled since the debate on ''reasonable accommodations'' started in 2007 up to the PQ's proposed ''Charter of Values'' of 2014. To make them believe that his anti-terror bill is the answer to their fears
identity politics played to a fiddle
Not sure what you're getting at. There are far more seats available for much smaller point increments for the CPC in Ontario. Them's the tomatoes I'm throwing, and they land perfectly.
matthewwhatever
Member
Exactly, the Conservative vote is actually kind of inefficient. Alberta gives them a base of 25+ seats, but it also exaggerates their vote. Their floor for forming government is a couple of points higher than it is for the Liberals. The Conservatives being so competitive in Ontario is the reason to be worried about them staying in power.
gutter_trash
Banned
new ridings gets added, some ridings get redrawn
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/fed...anges-add-to-2015-election-intrigue-1.2888547
so Alberta gains 6+ seats, so potential of 6+ more Conservative MPs probable. There is a chance that an urban Edmonton riding will go NDP but the rest are pretty dark blue
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/fed...anges-add-to-2015-election-intrigue-1.2888547
so Alberta gains 6+ seats, so potential of 6+ more Conservative MPs probable. There is a chance that an urban Edmonton riding will go NDP but the rest are pretty dark blue
matthewwhatever
Member
...except for the fact that a couple of them will be competitive. See Viewtiful's post above: there's a pretty good chance the Liberals end up with at least two AB seats, and could get as many as six. Writing off a whole province just because you don't know anything about its politics is ignorant.
Yeah, it's actually pretty unlikely the net gain for the CPC will be 6. Again, the CPC's overall potential in Ontario remains better in spite of higher popular vote in Alberta.
Also I'm amused how you put 6+ as if more seats are gonna magically pop out of nowhere. The number is fixed.
Also I'm amused how you put 6+ as if more seats are gonna magically pop out of nowhere. The number is fixed.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
What the fuck at that dark blue bar in Québec. Urrrrrgh
gutter_trash
Banned
identity politics, the Harper anti-terror bill is more popular in Quebec than anywhere else in Canada.
That drum will be banged loudest in places where there are no immigrants at all, ironically
I'm glad my former company gave me that amazing retirement package investment, that grows in the background while I expat it out.
No chance I would have done that kind of investment on my own.
And I feel for you guys at home right now, Harper bringing back the Mulroney triple time.
Buba Big Guns
Banned
If the CPC win, it'll be because of Ontario. And how the hell are they at 22% popular vote in Quebec. That's surprising.
Liberals need to start getting their game in order.
Liberals need to start getting their game in order.
gutter_trash
Banned
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/0...015_n_6754690.html?utm_hp_ref=canada-politics
you got some who say that both the Greens and Bloc have elected MPs while others say that they both do not have enough MPs to be considered to have Offcial Party Status.
On one hand you could hear the points of all parties, but having too many parties all at once reduces the amount of time that the leaders debate eachother.
what say you guys?
you got some who say that both the Greens and Bloc have elected MPs while others say that they both do not have enough MPs to be considered to have Offcial Party Status.
On one hand you could hear the points of all parties, but having too many parties all at once reduces the amount of time that the leaders debate eachother.
gutter_trash
Banned
is is it video footage of him inside parliament building? or is a video of him ranting?
It was his "manifesto" video.
gutter_trash
Banned
terrorist confirmed
Hopefully sans the tragic accident
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/the-navys-arctic-ambition/article23290380/
There's an interactive image at the link that details some of the AOPS capabilities.
There's an interactive image at the link that details some of the AOPS capabilities.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
I suspect what you mean is "We expected Canada's New Weather to be enhanced by the natural loving rays of the sun, praise be to Alberta".
gutter_trash
Banned
Harper secretly increasing the world's temperature to have an ice-less North Pole to travel his tankers through
matthewwhatever
Member
Well if the US won't let pipelines go through there, and Energy East is looking a little dicey, where do you expect him to send the oil?
Can we just talk about this. It's on Globe & Mail, The Star, as well.
Okay. Sure. Maybe transparency and identity purposes. Which is what I thought, at least, until I kept reading.
Considering the niqab isn't limited to a single culture, and is worn by anyone (who chooses to) that follows the religion, what even is he talking about here?
But the oath is taken among a group of people, isn't it? At least, when my mother did it in the early 90s, it was. Not that she wears a niqab, so it wasn't a issue.
This is turning into a Justin Trudeau, freedom of religion vs Stephen Harper, this isn't the way things work here. Trudeau says it promotes a divide between Muslim Canadians and the nation through fomenting fear, the like, Harper is appealing the ban on face coverings that was struck down:
Okay. Sure. Maybe transparency and identity purposes. Which is what I thought, at least, until I kept reading.
Considering the niqab isn't limited to a single culture, and is worn by anyone (who chooses to) that follows the religion, what even is he talking about here?
But the oath is taken among a group of people, isn't it? At least, when my mother did it in the early 90s, it was. Not that she wears a niqab, so it wasn't a issue.
This is turning into a Justin Trudeau, freedom of religion vs Stephen Harper, this isn't the way things work here. Trudeau says it promotes a divide between Muslim Canadians and the nation through fomenting fear, the like, Harper is appealing the ban on face coverings that was struck down:
This is the text of the speech that Trudeau gave, and it's actually really quite good imho, and offers quite the contrast from anything Harper ever has to say: http://www.macleans.ca/politics/for-the-record-justin-trudeau-on-liberty-and-the-niqab/
Interestingly enough, after giving that speech, over at the Washington Post there was this: Among those looking in from the outside, however, many were struck by how rare it was to hear a mainstream politician making such a dramatic stand for Muslims praised Trudeau's comments, saying they were inconceivable for a leading US politician.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...lims-today-as-it-did-jews-in-the-30s-and-40s/
Meanwhile... over in the Harper Camp, Jason Kenny remains in way over his head: http://ottawacitizen.com/news/polit...s-misleading-photos-of-muslim-women-in-chains
gutter_trash
Banned
anyone wanting to figure why Harper is going down that road, it's because it bodes well among Nationalist Quebecers who are anti-immigrants
http://www.journaldemontreal.com/20...rudeau-davoir-une-position-antifemme#livefyre
read the comments sections, you have anti-federalist commentators saying that finally they have something that they agree on with Stephen Harper.
http://quebec.huffingtonpost.ca/201..._n_6843040.html?utm_hp_ref=politique#comments
political pandering for votes just like Diefenbaker pandered to Duplessis supporters, and the way Mulroney coddled Bouchard and recruited Nationalists for the Progressive Conservatives in the 80s (that turned out well, uh Brian?)
http://www.journaldemontreal.com/20...rudeau-davoir-une-position-antifemme#livefyre
read the comments sections, you have anti-federalist commentators saying that finally they have something that they agree on with Stephen Harper.
http://quebec.huffingtonpost.ca/201..._n_6843040.html?utm_hp_ref=politique#comments
political pandering for votes just like Diefenbaker pandered to Duplessis supporters, and the way Mulroney coddled Bouchard and recruited Nationalists for the Progressive Conservatives in the 80s (that turned out well, uh Brian?)
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