firehawk12
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Might as well change the maple leaf into a capital C for "Canada" too!
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Canada Poligaf - The Wrath of Harperland
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You Are Viewtiful
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Ontario budget coming out today. Time for some blood and my wallets tears.
To be fair the old logo is pretty logo lol
remember the Vancouver Winter Olympics ''C''
LOL
To be fair the old logo is pretty logo lol
I've actually seen people using blue and white Canadian flags though I think it may be because they are french.
matthewwhatever
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Didn't they make the website changes right after they got in, in 2006? I vaguely remember there being a bit of an uproar about it then.
The most recent issue I had heard in regards to government websites is removing "Environment Canada" from the Weather Office website.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...r-weather-website/article11355689/?cmpid=rss1
firehawk12
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Jesus. lol
gutter_trash
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I thought it was Leafs fans
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Both believers in futility!
Not exactly sure why they did that when there is clearly an Environment Canada homepage with a link to Weather from there: http://ec.gc.ca/. Perhaps the Conservatives know that the weather section is bookmarked quite a lot, and they want people to associate the weather info with the government and not EC. Who knows?
You Are Viewtiful
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On the topic of terrible foreign relations:
Disgruntled Arab states trying to get UN International Civil Aviation Agency to relocate their headquarters from Montreal to somewhere in the Middle East, and convincing other states to join them, in light of Canada's hardline pro-Israel stance and Baird cluelessly walking into East Jerusalem to meet an Israeli cabinet minister.
Disgruntled Arab states trying to get UN International Civil Aviation Agency to relocate their headquarters from Montreal to somewhere in the Middle East, and convincing other states to join them, in light of Canada's hardline pro-Israel stance and Baird cluelessly walking into East Jerusalem to meet an Israeli cabinet minister.
Ether_Snake
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It's because of the word environment.
They also renamed "The Canadian Government" to "The Harper Government" on all official documents.
And today it was reported that the federal government wants to review history classes material in all provinces, when education is a provincial matter.
http://www.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle...-ottawa-enseignement-histoire-provinces.shtml
All military.
Crazy government with a creationist as science and technology minister.
Hours Left
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Is it 2015 yet?
Why wouldn't we be? The South Koreans seem to be happy they're not living in a communist dictatorship.
EnderWiggles
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Wait, I don't see the problem. This stuff is actually interesting.
BigJonsson
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Yea, I thought we were already proud of Korea?
Globe and Mail has a poll with the Liberals 7 points up on the CPC, way too early for polls to really matter but it's a positive sign and shows the lame attack ads haven't really worked
Globe and Mail has a poll with the Liberals 7 points up on the CPC, way too early for polls to really matter but it's a positive sign and shows the lame attack ads haven't really worked
firehawk12
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Given that it seems to be one fuck up every two weeks, I'd hope polls would have them down. How do you "lose" 3 billion dollars?
I honestly don't know what could come next.
I honestly don't know what could come next.
If we'd taken part in Vietnam, would you be proud of that? The US and the Soviets played people in that region like pawns in their ridiculous game and countless people died for their bullshit.
EnderWiggles
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Let's face it, we would have been happy if the "good guys" had "won"
firehawk12
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Well, it's not like anyone won the Korean war.
BigJonsson
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I'm unhappy any of it ever happened. I'm not gonna cheer on bringing the world to the brink of nuclear war for several decades. For either side.
firehawk12
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I assume there was some treaty with the Russians, but I feel like the world probably would have been a better place if the US actually helped the ROC secure China. At the very least, Korea would have probably turned out differently.
But now I'm in Harry Turtledove territory.
Millions of people suffered under Mao Zedong, Joseph Stalin and Kim Il-Sung. Had the UN forces managed to hold the peninsula, the world would be a slightly better place today.
South Korea, a nation of 50 million people, is prosperous and free because of the UN intervention in Korea.
All but Korea is already heavily touched on in history and civics classes (as I remember it), but there is more to our country's history than military conflict.
The deadline for implementing the new look is the end of June, so expect to see more of it.
However, things like the missing "environment canada" would have been a decision on the part of the developer. I know that for the one site I changed there was no guidance as to what the text would say. They are still blue-washing the sites but discussion of the text is probably reading too much into it.
Sapiens
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We lost 3 Billion (but still going on about that 2 million the Grits lost in the Sponsorship Scandal), our international reputation is in shambles, have a barney rubble looking buffoon in charge of your money, a creationist in charge of science, and spend your money on anti-Trudeau attack ads....
...and we're also going to spend some time looking over YOUR history to make sure everything is cool. Because we obviously have time for that.
This has nothing to do with the fact that our majority's clock is ticking down and we want to set Canada "right" as much as possible before we inevitably go back to minority* status in Oct 15.
*Let's face it, it's going to be hard to defeat a unified right for a LONG time unless a few scandals** come to light that should rock the Conservatives. In the meantime, I'll donate time and whatever money I can do my preferred Non-Conservative party.
**All of Harper's inherited Paul Martin financial goodwill disappearing and the having to face up to the fact that anything bad that happens to Canada from now on might just rest on the governing party's shoulders. Sick of this party coasting on the shoulders of the competent (but corrupt shoulders of the) Liberals.
...and we're also going to spend some time looking over YOUR history to make sure everything is cool. Because we obviously have time for that.
This has nothing to do with the fact that our majority's clock is ticking down and we want to set Canada "right" as much as possible before we inevitably go back to minority* status in Oct 15.
*Let's face it, it's going to be hard to defeat a unified right for a LONG time unless a few scandals** come to light that should rock the Conservatives. In the meantime, I'll donate time and whatever money I can do my preferred Non-Conservative party.
**All of Harper's inherited Paul Martin financial goodwill disappearing and the having to face up to the fact that anything bad that happens to Canada from now on might just rest on the governing party's shoulders. Sick of this party coasting on the shoulders of the competent (but corrupt shoulders of the) Liberals.
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It's not interesting for an illegally-elected creationist anti-science anti-intellect government to seek to meddle in education when it's a provincial matter. Those topics are already covered by history classes, they just want to "look into them", which of course means change them.
Stumpokapow
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The problem is that it's a bunch of military history and they're going to focus on it at the expense of state multiculturalism, state bilingualism, the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, etc. Same as the War of 1812 stuff more broadly. It's about projecting a version of Canadian identity and history which does not place the Liberal Party's achievements centrally, regardless of the merit of individual topics.
gutter_trash
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The war of 1812 was not even Canada vs USA, it was England vs USA LOL
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_1812
look on the right side where belligerents are listed
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_1812
look on the right side where belligerents are listed
laesperanzapaz
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T.T
lets all move to Iceland. They seem the most sane-headed of all the Nordics.
lets all move to Iceland. They seem the most sane-headed of all the Nordics.
Since Canada didn't exist yet in any real sense and many of the soldiers who fought wound up staying in Canada, I think it's entirely fair to consider it part of Canada's history.
But I also think it's nothing to be proud of either. It's another bullshit war fought for bullshit reasons (more so than most, it was pure muscle-flexing).
You make it sound like Mordor.
BigJonsson
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They tried to mess with the Mighty Ducks, they might as well be from Mordor
This man has to be shamed in every media outlet for having these views.
You Are Viewtiful
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BladeWorker
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I don't think Goodyear should hold the portfolio that he does either but let's not forget that the Charter gives us all freedom of conscience, belief, and religion. To say he can't hold a particular job -or that he should be shamed by the media- because he holds a religious belief over a scientific one is contrary to the Charter.
In my view, though, when you are called to serve your country in such a position of Minister of *anything*, you set aside your personal beliefs in favour of what is in the best interests of the whole country. I am not convinced he's been able to do that, though - and a failure to exercise proper judgement in this regard is fair grounds for dismissal.
It would be contrary to the charter to hold that the media should be restricted from shaming someone for their lack of professional qualifications. That there should not be a litmus test for the office does not mean the media should shut up and accept it. It's their *job* to point this out to us, and it's in service to this place in our society that they are granted the freedoms they are.
BladeWorker
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That's not what I said, though. I didn't argue that the media should be restricted from pointing out his qualifications for a job - or lack thereof. I argued that vilifying someone for holding a religious belief - and preventing them from having, or firing them from a job because of that reason - is contrary to the Charter. Jurisprudence tells us that religion alone cannot determine whether or not we are qualified for a job.
Goodness knows there are countless men and women of science who still believe in some form of deity or religion. That alone shouldn't disqualify them from being considered "good scientists", whatever that means.
As I indicated already, hypothesizing that his beliefs compromise his judgement in the execution of his duties is fair game; pointing out his beliefs as a way of saying that his beliefs alone should disqualify him is unfair.
matthewwhatever
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Harper History, Harper Sociology, Harper Statistics...it's like a syllabus of ignorance.
If you want to say that it's unfair or unreasonable I'm totally ok with that. It's the fact you're invoking the charter to argue against freedom of speech and of the press, and that's just wrong. Constitutions limit, above all, what the government can and cannot do. Our charter can also be sometimes broadly applied to what private citizens (or the press) can do, but not in this sense. Nor should it.
BladeWorker
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Perhaps I was unclear before:
I'm invoking the Charter to point out that it protects Goodyear's freedom of thought, belief, and expression. I'm invoking the Charter to point out that we can't fire or persecute people based on their religious beliefs. I'm not invoking the Charter to say that we can't talk about this stuff.
Some in this thread have explicitly or implicitly said that Goodyear should not be Minister on account of his religious beliefs, and/or that he should be vilified in the press for holding them. I point out that his religious beliefs alone are not grounds to do either, because his beliefs are protected by the Charter.
gutter_trash
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http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com...his-party-and-an-embarrassment-to-federalism/
Watch 95% of his Montreal ridings turn back to Federalist Red in 2015.
Montreal Federalists are going WTF at Mulcair's recent stances on Quebec nationalism.
Justin will make short work of him
Watch 95% of his Montreal ridings turn back to Federalist Red in 2015.
Montreal Federalists are going WTF at Mulcair's recent stances on Quebec nationalism.
Justin will make short work of him
And on that note, can we not just rename the Privy Council Office (PCO) to The Ministry of Truth and be done with it already... Muzzling Science: How Tories Control The Message
Worth noting for the article is that the President of the NRC, John McDougall, was appointed by the Harper Government on April Fool's Day, 2010.
1. Iceland didn't got brankrupt
2. Unless you live in very remote small town in Iceland volcanos will not have any effect on your life.
3. 24 hour sunshine for half the year
BigJonsson
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They didn't? Did they almost go bankrupt?
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