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[G.O.O.]

What a day for the GIGN!
They finish their job in Vincennes and they have to handle a situation in Montpellier!
waht?

"bon ben là il est 5 heures, hein, on rentre au commissariat, c'est la fin de journée, salut"

 

[Alx]

Edit: and aparently, not a single hostage died (...yet, some are severly injuried) during the raids.
Respect.

Unfortunately that doesn't seem to be the case. Nothing official yet, but le Monde claims to have sources telling about hostage deaths, without more information. Le Figaro talks about four deaths and four severely wounded (although they're usually less reliable).
We'll probably get some official information in 30 minutes (Hollande's speech), maybe earlier.

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

I'm surprised CNN is still reporting that Boumeddiene escaped the market. Multiple sources are now saying she was not there at all.

I wouldn't be surprised if the language barrier seriously affected coverage by English speaking news outlets.

CNN is pretty much garbage when it comes to breaking info. If someone kept stats it would probably be pretty damn bad.

 

[Griffevent]

Is anyone gonna give coverage to what's going at this jewelry store?

That's my city, I'm trying to find whatever I can but it's not covered by TV channels, only tweets. It's "just" robbers for now, so no bloody outcome expected.

 

[dosh]

Holy fuck at BFMTV having interviewed the terrorists on the phone today, both the charlie dude and the kosher guy! They sound so fucking casual when talking.

Chérif Kouachi apparently said that he was commissioned to attack Charlie Hebdo by Al Quaïda in Yémen.

Le Monde specifies that there is no proof supporting any of this atm, it's just the terrorist talking.

 

[Palette Swap]

Charlie Hebdo print run going from ~60.000 to one million.
Talk about Streisand effect

And this might not be enough. It's crazy for a paper that was in a dire financial situation.

I mean, I never thought I'd see the day Arnold Schwarzenegger would tell people to subscribe to a very left leaning French satirical magazine.
Crazy world.

 

[E-phonk]

Unfortunately that doesn't seem to be the case. Nothing official yet, but le Monde claims to have sources telling about hostage deaths, without more information. Le Figaro talks about four deaths and four severely wounded (although they're usually less reliable).
We'll probably get some official information in 30 minutes (Hollande's speech), maybe earlier.

But nothing points to these deaths being during the raid - it's possible these were the rumoured deaths from before right?

 

[UnluckyKate]

"bon ben là il est 5 heures, hein, on rentre au commissariat, c'est la fin de journée, salut"

haha yeah, well, some of them must go down there.

 

[Fantastapotamus]

I mean, I never thought I'd see the day Arnold Schwarzenegger would tell people to subscribe to a very left leaning French satirical magazine.

Wait what

 

[Chariot]

Not the same guys from the kosher market. Montpellier is far, they can't teleport.

Ah, I thought both incidents were in Paris. Ok, still. Not a good day for a robbery with everyone on edge.

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

That's my city, I'm trying to find whatever I can but it's not covered by TV channels, only tweets. It's "just" robbers for now, so no bloody outcome expected.

I guess nobody cares about just an average hostage situation.

 

[Nugg]

Wait what

https://twitter.com/Schwarzenegger/status/553312827415339008

 

[CrimzonSamurai]

Wait what

He tweeted out instructions for how to subscribe to Charlie Hebdo via Amazon if you're in the states. Said he was subscribing and urged others to do so as well.

 

[Koren]

Unfortunately that doesn't seem to be the case. Nothing official yet, but le Monde claims to have sources telling about hostage deaths, without more information. Le Figaro talks about four deaths and four severely wounded (although they're usually less reliable).

Tricky part is "during the raid". If people died when they entered the shop (a guy escaping the shop at the same time said they were shooting everywhere in the shop), RAID couldn't do much about this.

If there's only wounded people because of the assault, that's quite an achievement. Even if it's sad for the casualties...

 

[Deleted member 17706]

they died as martyrs.

My understanding may be incorrect, but I don't think that's how martyrdom works...

 

[Jisgsaw]

I'm kind of angry at BFMTV, contacting the terrorist is already bad, but broadcasting the calls just hours after the hostage takings is irresponsible, it might be damaging the investigation and fuels the terrorists message, especially to Jihadist supporters. This is so wrong.

I would guess they got the go from the police/government?

Unfortunately that doesn't seem to be the case. Nothing official yet, but le Monde claims to have sources telling about hostage deaths, without more information. Le Figaro talks about four deaths and four severely wounded (although they're usually less reliable).
We'll probably get some official information in 30 minutes (Hollande's speech), maybe earlier.

From what I got, three hostages were killed right at the beggining of the hostage taking, not during the raid.
Some were apparently severly inuried though.

 

[UnluckyKate]

https://twitter.com/Schwarzenegger/status/553312827415339008

As a french dude, this is insane to see. I see myself 20 years ago watching commando and now Arnold, former Governor, tweeting, about buying Charlie Hebdo after it was attacked... This is surreal.

 

[Naked Snake]

https://twitter.com/Schwarzenegger/status/553312827415339008

Link not loading for me... twitter down?

 

[Chariot]

Link not loading for me... twitter down?

Works fine for me. Try again?

 

[ThatGuyAgain]

CNN is reporting that a French Police official stated that the women (Hayat Boumeddiene) was in the Kosher store and escaped with hostages. CNN warns that they are not in a position to confirm this though because they say that the info is "softer" than other info received so far...

Source: http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/09/world/france-woman-suspect/index.html

 

[Alx]

But nothing points to these deaths being during the raid - it's possible these were the rumoured deaths from before right?

Oh right, I missed the "during the raid" part. Sorry for that.

 

[marrec]

CNN is reporting that a French Police official stated that the women (Hayat Boumeddiene) was in the Kosher store and escaped with hostages. CNN warns that they are not in a position to confirm this though because they say that the info is "softer" than other info received so far...

Source: http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/09/world/france-woman-suspect/index.html

Fuck man I hate it when my info gets soft.

 

[Naked Snake]

Works fine for me. Try again?

Had to copy the URL and paste it manually for it work... clicking on it wouldn't for some weird reason.

 

[Tugatrix]

'Supermarket gunman phones TV station'

Posted at 18:45
BFMTV news channel is broadcasting a telephone interview with a man who they identified as the supermarket gunman, named as Amedy Coulibaly. In the interview, he says he had been coordinating his attack with the Charlie Hebdo suspects and that he was from the Islamic State militant group active in Syria and Iraq.
But he also said he had been sent and financed by al-Qaeda in Yemen, another militant group which is not believed to have had overt ties with Islamic State.

BBC

 

[Guy.brush]

Charlie Hebdo print run going from ~60.000 to one million.
Talk about Streisand effect

They should print the new issue in that printing factory.

 

[Griffevent]

To the question "What can we do to prevent this ?" Former French secret service agent answers on France 5 that the government has specific and established ways to neutralize individuals that poses such threats, and only needs the will to do so.

 

[Jb]

Hollande is on.

 

[Addi]

CNN is reporting that a French Police official stated that the women (Hayat Boumeddiene) was in the Kosher store and escaped with hostages. CNN warns that they are not in a position to confirm this though because they say that the info is "softer" than other info received so far...

Source: http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/09/world/france-woman-suspect/index.html

That seem to be wrong. French tv talked about the hostages saying there was a second man there. one of the four bodies is not identified yet and they wonder if that was him. One of the cops shouted that the guy had escaped so the RAID apprehended a random guy that had nothing to do with it. So there's still a bit of confusion

 

[Marvel]

Hard to tell what's going on right now.

 

[JustenP88]

To the question "What can we do to prevent this ?" Former French secret service agent answers on France 5 that the government has specific and established ways to neutralize individuals that poses such threats, and only needs the will to do so.

Well, that doesn't sound ambiguous and ominous at all.

 

[Fenderputty]

'Supermarket gunman phones TV station'

Posted at 18:45
BFMTV news channel is broadcasting a telephone interview with a man who they identified as the supermarket gunman, named as Amedy Coulibaly. In the interview, he says he had been coordinating his attack with the Charlie Hebdo suspects and that he was from the Islamic State militant group active in Syria and Iraq.
But he also said he had been sent and financed by al-Qaeda in Yemen, another militant group which is not believed to have had overt ties with Islamic State.

BBC

I thought IS and Al Qaeda weren't allies?

 

[Dambrosi]

"According to reports in the French media the denouement of the two hostage situations in Paris happened after French security forces crept into position on the roof of the printworks moments before opening bursts of gunfire.

Their two suspects, the Parisian brothers Chérif and Saïd Kouachi, reportedly launched an audacious escape bid, charging out of the building firing at the security forces before being cut down in their tracks."

What a bunch of morons.

That reminded me of the ending to Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.

Did they think that this was martyrdom? Were they that delusional? All signs point to yes.

I thought IS and Al Qaeda weren't allies?

They aren't afaik, which makes his statements suspect.

 

[chadskin]

cnnbrk: Four people were killed in the #Paris kosher grocery standoff, French President François Hollande says http://t.co/7Bxdhozq4H

.

 

[Forsete]

"Long live the republic, long live France."
From french president just now, ending his speech.

They actually say that? Cool.

 

[pulsemyne]

God that march on sunday will be a security nightmare considering world leaders are turning up.

 

[Magni]

What a day for the GIGN!
They finish their job in Vincennes and they have to handle a situation in Montpellier!
waht?

From Midi Libre, the GIGN group that is now in Montpellier came in from Marseilles, so not the same guys as the one up in IdF/Picardie earlier.

 

[Forsete]

That reminded me of the ending to Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.

Were they that delusional? All signs point to yes.

I want to post that Charlie piece with the "bulletproof Koran" but I cant find it.

 

[RoadHazard]

To the question "What can we do to prevent this ?" Former French secret service agent answers on France 5 that the government has specific and established ways to neutralize individuals that poses such threats, and only needs the will to do so.

Jihadists returning from these areas absolutely need to be rounded up and thrown in jail. We (well, the secret service people and such) know rather well who they are, but unfortunately most (all?) EU countries don't have the laws in place to support doing that. It's simply not illegal to go fight in these areas. That shit needs to be put into place ASAP. I don't want these future terrorists walking my streets, planning out the next great slaughter of innocents. Because there WILL be more. It's pretty much inevitable.

 

[ComputerMKII]

Hollande: France mourns four killed

Hollande confirms that four people were killed in the siege in the Vincennes supermarket. It is unclear if this number includes the hostage-taker.

“I want to salute the police and and all those who participated in the operations. I want to tell them we are proud of you,” Hollande adds, saying they they saved the hostages and “neutralized” the terrorists.

Along with the prime minister, Hollande says “we have reinforced protection of our public spaces, to guarantee that we can live quietly, in peace, so that at no moment we will be subject to risk and threats. But we must remain vigilant.”

“Unity is our best arm.”

Calls the attack on Vincennes a terrifying ‘anti-semitic attack”.

Hollande adds: numerous state chiefs around the world have expressed their solidarity with us. They will be here on Sunday. I will be with them. I call on all the french to get up together this Sunday to carry the value of democracy, liberty and pluralism.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/li...-manhunt-kouachi-terrorist-links-live-updates

 

[Mael]

From Midi Libre, the GIGN group that is now in Montpellier came in from Marseilles, so not the same guys as the one up in IdF/Picardie earlier.

Well yeah that was expected.

 

[Griffevent]

François Hollande honoring the victims and the forces engaged to stop the terrorists. Ends his speech with "Vive la République. Vive la France".

That's the last time I post in this thread, everything settling down now makes me realize all we lost in the last 2 days, that's seriously painful.
Let's honor Charlie Hebdo and security forces, these brave men and women with pens or guns against extremism.

 

[Rich!]

Just stumbled upon a daily mail article about the shootings (yeah, I know - I should have expected this)

fucking hell

- sensationalist headlines
- numerous photos of charb's wife the moment she found out along with numerous more of her on the floor crying
- quite intimate details of their relationship, stuff that's not relevant at all
- photos from inside the offices, pools of blood everywhere and visible smears where people were crawling and were gunned down
- images of the policeman being shot

none of the other tabloids are any better. in other words:

IM SO GLAD THE BRITISH MEDIA IS REPORTING ALL OF THIS WELL AND WITH DIGNITY!!!!!11

 

[Acosta]

I want to post that Charlie piece with the "bulletproof Koran" but I cant find it.

Finding this made me see a really awful montage. Some people are sick.

 

[Pacbois]

As not only a French citizen who strongly believe in the values of my country, but also coming from a algerian muslim family who prefectly integrated and respect those values and our freedom of religion, those last few days were pretty hard.

I know just hope that our nation will bond together to fight intelorance of every form and origin and not fall into the trap of hate. It's going to be difficult, but there maybe hope somehow...

Thanks for all the kind words of supports here, it was nice to see guys.

Now I'm going to get drunk with friends to get some relief. I'll go to the march on sunday, to show my support to my country and it's values, it would be nice meet a few french gaffers.

 

[Dambrosi]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/liv...s-live-updates

The attack wasn't anti-semitic, Hollande, christ. It was anti-civilization, anti-freedom, anti-humanity. Get it right.

 

[pulsemyne]

Just stumbled upon a daily mail article about the shootings (yeah, I know - I should have expected this)

fucking hell

- sensationalist headlines
- numerous photos of charb's wife the moment she found out along with numerous more of her on the floor crying
- quite intimate details of their relationship, stuff that's not relevant at all
- photos from inside the offices, pools of blood everywhere and visible smears where people were crawling and were gunned down
- images of the policeman being shot

none of the other tabloids are any better. in other words:

IM SO GLAD THE BRITISH MEDIA IS REPORTING ALL OF THIS WELL AND WITH DIGNITY!!!!!11

Yeah they do a lovely job the twats. Thank fuck for the BBC. Oh and the guardian. Also in a really odd twist only the Daily star, of all newspapers, mentioned on their front page the muslim officer who died. The Daily fucking star.

 

[Kuldar]

"Long live the republic, long live France."
From french president just now, ending his speech.

They actually say that? Cool.

The president of the French Republic always ends his speech to the country with this sentence ("Vive la République, Vive la France").

 

[cripterion]

The attack wasn't anti-semitic, Hollande, christ. It was anti-civilization, anti-freedom, anti-humanity. Get it right.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[E-phonk]

Now I'm going to get drunk with friends to get some relief.

Enjoy!

 

[Mass_Pincup]

As not only a French citizen who strongly believe in the values of my country, but also coming from a algerian muslim family who prefectly integrated and respect those values and our freedom of religion, those last few days were pretty hard.

I know just hope that our nation will bond together to fight intelorance of every form and origin and not fall into the trap of hate. It's going to be difficult, but there maybe hope somehow...

Thanks for all the kind words of supports here, it was nice to see guys.

Now I'm going to get drunk with friends to get some relief. I'll go to the march on sunday, to show my support to my country and it's values, it would be nice meet a few french gaffers.

Don't worry as a black french myself, those event or any event will not change my view on anything. I'll also be at the march so we might meet there