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[BrightLightLava]

I hope you like post-SW Weirdworld. I feel like I'm the only one here who digs that book.

I know that I'll love the art, we'll see with the story. I've had fairly mixed reactions to Sam Humphries.

 

[duckroll]

What do people mean by "pre-Secret War" and "post-Secret War"? I know that Secret War was some kind of event, but what is the significance of it that warrants pre- and post-? I confess I'm not nearly up to snuff on recent Marvel history like I am with DC (and even there there's quite I bit I don't know).

Before Secret Wars there was a normal Marvel comic universe and an Ultimates Marvel comic universe. After Secret Wars all universes have been destroyed and rebuilt, and those rules no longer apply. It doesn't really mean anything to anyone who hasn't been following the continuity for ages though. It just means characters have been reshuffled around and they cleaned up some annoying parts of the continuity they didn't like moving forward.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

I hope you like post-SW Weirdworld. I feel like I'm the only one here who digs that book.

AND MY AXE

 

[VanWinkle]

The big 'ol Secret Wars event that happened last year was the end of the Marvel NOW! imprint and the beginning of the current All-New All-Different. It was an event that preceded a big relaunch into the current state of Marvel books.

So that's what they mean.

Well, several reasons.

-When Secret Wars happened Marvel stopped publishing their entire line and just put out Secret Wars books for several months.
-There is a time lapse between the beginning of Secret Wars and the end of eight months, and for most books we still don't know what happened in that time period to establish new status quos. For example, the death of Cyclops is effectively the lynch-pin of the X-Men's current status quo but we still don't know how or why that happened.
-Virtually every book got a new #1 after Secret Wars, even books with only a few issues published to begin with (i.e., The Unbeatable Squirrel Girl)
-Some characters and concepts were revived for Secret Wars minis and stuck around as ongoings afterwards. Again, they were given new #1s.

So, using Weirdworld as an example, that's a book that came back for a Secret Wars mini, and stuck around after SW ended with a new #1 to kick off an ongoing with a new creative team. Therefore when you say post-SW Weirdworld, you're talking about the ongoing, not the mini with the same title.

Very interesting. Thanks guys. Could this be compared, then to something like DC's Flashpoint?

Before Secret Wars there was a normal Marvel comic universe and an Ultimates Marvel comic universe. After Secret Wars all universes have been destroyed and rebuilt, and those rules no longer apply. It doesn't really mean anything to anyone who hasn't been following the continuity for ages though. It just means characters have been reshuffled around and they cleaned up some annoying parts of the continuity they didn't like moving forward.

Thanks, duckroll. Good to know what it's not overly important to know the event itself well.

 

[echoshifting]

I love it. Absolutely love it.

AND MY AXE

I love you guys

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

I love you guys

I screenshotted the dance sequence but I can't find it

One of my favorite sequences in comics this year.

 

[echoshifting]

Very interesting. Thanks guys. Could this be compared, then to something like DC's Flashpoint?

The distinction is the continuity didn't change or compress, it just moved forward eight months. Flashpoint/nu52 put almost every character at square one when all was said and done, and those that weren't rebooted had their continuities compressed to a ridiculous degree (for example, everything that has ever happened to Batman still happened but it all went down over a seven year period).

 

[VanWinkle]

The distinction is the continuity didn't change or compress, it just moved forward eight months. Flashpoint/nu52 put almost every character at square one when all was said and done, and those that weren't rebooted had their continuities compressed to a ridiculous degree (for example, everything that has ever happened to Batman still happened but it all went down over a seven year period).

Oooh, okay. So "pre-SW" and "post-SW" are referring to timeframe rather than continuity-changes or anything drastic like that. I get it now. Is "post-SW" just another way to say ANAD?

 

[echoshifting]

Oooh, okay. So "pre-SW" and "post-SW" are referring to timeframe rather than continuity-changes or anything drastic like that. I get it now.

Exactly, you got it

Is "post-SW" just another way to say ANAD?

Yeah, I suppose it is.

 

[VanWinkle]

Exactly, you got it



Yeah, I suppose it is.

Thanks! That makes me feel a little less scared getting into more Marvel stuff. I thought it was a bigger event that would make things confusing to a somewhat-new reader like that me.

 

[BKatastrophe]

The distinction is the continuity didn't change or compress, it just moved forward eight months. Flashpoint/nu52 put almost every character at square one when all was said and done, and those that weren't rebooted had their continuities compressed to a ridiculous degree (for example, everything that has ever happened to Batman still happened but it all went down over a seven year period).

Or Green Lantern. That's just as bad. The Batman stuff had a few adjustments, but Green Lantern had zero.

Oooh, okay. So "pre-SW" and "post-SW" are referring to timeframe rather than continuity-changes or anything drastic like that. I get it now. Is "post-SW" just another way to say ANAD?

Yup. No different than DC fans referring to different points of DC continuity as pre-Crisis, post-Crisis, pre-Flashpoint, etc.

 

[GAMEPROFF]

Arent the differences between Crisis of Infinite Earth and Secret Wars big? Crisis was a big change in Status Quo, Secret Wars/ANAD continues like before

 

[BKatastrophe]

Arent the differences between Crisis of Infinite Earth and Secret Wars big? Crisis was a big change in Status Quo, Secret Wars/ANAD continues like before

Yes, but I'm talking about them purely on a basis of the terminology. Not the actual events. If we're comparing events, Secret Wars is more comparable to Infinite Crisis.

 

[BrightLightLava]

Oooh, okay. So "pre-SW" and "post-SW" are referring to timeframe rather than continuity-changes or anything drastic like that. I get it now. Is "post-SW" just another way to say ANAD?

Yeah, and as Echo said earlier, it can help distinguish books with the same name that came out with new number 1s after the event, while maintaining the same creative teams.

Like Unbeatable Squirrel Girl, Howard the Duck, and Silver Surfer

 

[GAMEPROFF]

Yes, but I'm talking about them purely on a basis of the terminology. Not the actual events. If we're comparing events, Secret Wars is more comparable to Infinite Crisis.

OK, I see what you mean^^

 

[mreddie]

Yeah, and as Echo said earlier, it can help distinguish books with the same name that came out with new number 1s after the event, while maintaining the same creative teams.

Like Unbeatable Squirrel Girl, Howard the Duck, and Silver Surfer

And some books are coming back from Secret Wars but with differences (Moon Knight, Punisher, Nova), do those count?

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

I may have gone a little overboard and got like...all the marvel books i was even remotely interested in

ulp

 

[TheDarkKnight774]

VALIANT SALE OMGGGGG

No OHCs though. Bummer. Still, damn good deals for books that are usually only 30% off. I recommend everything except Shadowman and Eternal Warrior.

Archer and Armstrong is just fun comics; one of their best. Harbinger is probably the best-written serious book. XO is good, solid, and Armor Hunters is the best large scale event of the last few years. Quantum and Woody is hilarious. Bloodshot is good if you want brainless action

I agree with your assessment. Also Ivar is grea Dr who like fun.

I may have gone a little overboard and got like...all the marvel books i was even remotely interested in

ulp

I'm getting all the $1.99 comics I want from the sale. Which isn't everything I want. There's still wholes in the marvel CMX catalog. Like where the hell is Spider-Man tangled web?

But they're getting closer to having everything I want. The one comfort is I'm at least spending less with each marvel BOGO sale.

 

[BrightLightLava]

And some books are coming back from Secret Wars but with differences (Moon Knight, Punisher, Nova), do those count?

You could call them that, for clarification's sake.

Speaking of Pre-SW Moon Knight, is any of that worth getting? I almost bit on the Ellis issues last night. I remember people thinking that the art was cool, but it changed creative teams so quickly that I didn't know which bit was the good bit.

 

[my name is ed]

The Ellis Moon Knight stuff with Shalvey is pretty damn good. Get on it. Its only 5 issues or so

 

[mreddie]

You could call them that, for clarification's sake.

Speaking of Pre-SW Moon Knight, is any of that worth getting? I almost bit on the Ellis issues last night. I remember people thinking that the art was cool, but it changed creative teams so quickly that I didn't know which bit was the good bit.

I think the Ellis run was amazing and post Ellis, kept everything steady.

 

[BrightLightLava]

The Ellis Moon Knight stuff with Shalvey is pretty damn good. Get on it. Its only 5 issues or so

Is the Brian Wood and after stuff not worth picking up?

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

I may have gone a little overboard and got like...all the marvel books i was even remotely interested in

ulp

You and me both. I had to stop myself from buying more. Dropped $132. :|

I agree with your assessment. Also Ivar is grea Dr who like fun.


I'm getting all the $1.99 comics I want from the sale. Which isn't everything I want. There's still wholes in the marvel CMX catalog. Like where the hell is Spider-Man tangled web?

But they're getting closer to having everything I want. The one comfort is I'm at least spending less with each marvel BOGO sale.

I didn't see any Ivar in that sale, but I may have missed it.

 

[tim1138]

You and me both. I had to stop myself from buying more. Dropped $132. :|
.

But you couldn't spend $17 on Excalibur...

 

[WadiumArcadium]

Might as well catch up with ANAD Ms Marvel with that BOGOF offer. I haven't been following it issue to issue since the renumbering.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

But you couldn't spend $17 on Excalibur...

It's because I dropped $132.

 

[TheDarkKnight774]

But you couldn't spend $17 on Excalibur...

Keep fighting the good fight.

 

[BrightLightLava]

But you couldn't spend $17 on Excalibur...

I looked up Excalibur, and it made me miss the boxes in the upper left corner that showed who was in each issue.

I sort of wish they'd do that for the MCU box art going forward now that their mixing and matching so much.

Didnt read it but i remember reading he did pretty well. Ellis run is satisfactory all by itself really

It's serviceable but pales in comparison to the Ellis issues.

You can just read the Ellis issues if you want, they stand on their own.

Cool, will do.

Oh, and I finished The Fade Out yesterday. Loved it. And loved the backup articles. It had been a while since I'd read any Brubaker, I'd forgotten how great he is.

 

[my name is ed]

https://m.facebook.com/LadronnComics/albums/553732218141422/


Ladronn good lord

Is the Brian Wood and after stuff not worth picking up?

Didnt read it but i remember reading he did pretty well. Ellis run is satisfactory all by itself really

 

[echoshifting]

Is the Brian Wood and after stuff not worth picking up?

It's serviceable but pales in comparison to the Ellis issues.

You can just read the Ellis issues if you want, they stand on their own.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

https://m.facebook.com/LadronnComics/albums/553732218141422/


Ladronn good lord

fucking shit

 

[Rawr Its Ry]

Hi Comic Gaf, saw on Comixology that Marvel has a bogo sale and was wondering how ANAD avengers & star wars/vader post Vader Down are holding up

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

Hi Comic Gaf, saw on Comixology that Marvel has a bogo sale and was wondering how ANAD avengers & star wars/vader post Vader Down are holding up

Those are all excellent choices.

 

[TheDarkKnight774]

Just a FYI

Turns out Marvel is also doing another sale ontop of their BOGO

Miles Morales: Ultimate Spiderman (the one that ended with SW) and the Nova (kid Nova) series have a 99 cent sale. And it stacks with the BOGO! So 0.50 comics

https://www.comixology.com/comics-sale?list_id=11005&lang=1

I recommend ordering these on their own as things get wonky if you mix it with other priced comics.

 

[Zombine]

Hi Comic Gaf, saw on Comixology that Marvel has a bogo sale and was wondering how ANAD avengers & star wars/vader post Vader Down are holding up

Vader is like Super Saiyan God Kaioken times fourty.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

Just a FYI

Turns out Marvel is also doing another sale ontop of their BOGO

Miles Morales: Ultimate Spiderman (the one that ended with SW) and the Nova (kid Nova) series have a 99 cent sale. And it stacks with the BOGO! So 0.50 comics

https://www.comixology.com/comics-sale?list_id=11005&lang=1

I recommend ordering these on their own as things get wonky if you mix it with other priced comics.

I would ask if Nova is worth it at $16, but I feel like Tim would bite my head off.

 

[WadiumArcadium]

Hi Comic Gaf, saw on Comixology that Marvel has a bogo sale and was wondering how ANAD avengers & star wars/vader post Vader Down are holding up

Vader's been a lot better since Vader Down and Star Wars is still good too.

I stopped reading Avengers when Standoff started so I can't comment.

 

[Zombine]

$5.94 for all of Miles Man. How could you say no? I've spent more on gun skins in CSGO.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

$5.94 for all of Miles Man. How could you say no? I've spent more on gun skins in CSGO.

That's not all of Miles tho

 

[Zombine]

That's not all of Miles tho

I know Lunchbox.

 

[tim1138]

I would ask if Nova is worth it at $16, but I feel like Tim would bite my head off.

and I after I read your Valiant comics, this is how you treat me...

 

[BrokenFiction]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/new-marvel-teaser-heralds-a-heros-long-awaited-return

Spinning out of "Avengers: Standoff," a hero will make a long-awaited return to Marvel Comics -- and it appears they'll be connected to the Nova Corps.

With the title "A Long Awaited Return...", the teaser features a golden cross on a black background; the cross echoes the (generally red) symbol on the Nova Corps' helmet, much like the one Sam Alexander wears in "All-New, All-Different Avengers."

The teaser also references "Avengers Standoff," which concludes in next Wednesday's "Avengers Standoff: Assault on Pleasant Hill Omega" #1, so it seems we'll soon learn who will be making a big return.

 

[Zombine]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/new-marvel-teaser-heralds-a-heros-long-awaited-return

Jesus Christ joining the avengers. We finally find out his secret origin as an inhuman.

 

[BrokenFiction]

Jesus Christ joining the avengers. We finally find out his secret origin as an inhuman.

 

[Calcium]

Jesus Christ joining the avengers. We finally find out his secret origin as an inhuman.

It's about time. Give 'em hell, JC.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

Just a FYI

Turns out Marvel is also doing another sale ontop of their BOGO

Miles Morales: Ultimate Spiderman (the one that ended with SW) and the Nova (kid Nova) series have a 99 cent sale. And it stacks with the BOGO! So 0.50 comics

https://www.comixology.com/comics-sale?list_id=11005&lang=1

I recommend ordering these on their own as things get wonky if you mix it with other priced comics.

I mixed them all in on one of my (many) orders, worked out fine.

 

[Zombine]

Jesus Christ & The Agents of S.W.O.L.E.

 

[MG310]

IST impulse order

Harley & Ivy Hardcover
Black Science hardcover
Alex Toth: Genius Illustrated
Wonder Woman Earth One

Midtown's shipping is unusually slow this week..usually my order processes Tuesday, ships Wednesday and arrives Friday...hasn't processed yet. Had a bunch of blank covers from the sale though.

 

[Calcium]

IST impulse order

Harley & Ivy Hardcover
Black Science hardcover
Alex Toth: Genius Illustrated
Wonder Woman Earth One

 

[Freezasaurus]

$5.94 for all of Miles Man. How could you say no? I've spent more on gun skins in CSGO.

Tell me more. I've never read any Miles Man. Ever.

There was that one time he was in ANXM tho.