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Concord bombs on Steam with less than 1k players on launch day
- Thread starter Dr. Samuel Hayden
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Thanks - yes this was the image, I did indeed remember 20M in there but it was for another tier. And it all makes sense now.
The reason I called out to XB1 launch is that it had one title that was the closest comparison to HB2 scope I can remember (even down to gameplay mechanics - or lack of thereof).
That cost 25-30M but over a decade earlier. Inflation alone adds 50%, and of course game industry costs have escalated a lot in general since (HB2 fidelity is after all - dramatically higher as cutting edge of current gen).
You can argue studio frugality to counter that - but that's a bit nebulous, and MS was involved in paying the bills in both cases (which leads to certain pressures on time & scope etc). Also the developer in 2013 was pretty cost effective in their own right (and I could bring in European costs being lower than UK especially back then). Maybe 100M is pushing it - but under 50M would be lowball IMO - so that gives us the interval, and it likely landed somewhere in between.
Note these budgets include marketing spend etc. too (where og. HB was - practically all grass roots campaigns, so extra cheap).
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Topher
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Fake
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Plague Doctor
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So the more telling thing is the dude posting this is an editor at the Verge if I am reading his bio correctly.
Even the usual cheerleaders are openly dunking on this.
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Fake
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Robb
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STARSBarry
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They got rid of all these lol
Killjoy-NL
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Everybody knows what the problem is. LolWell, at least we know that they know what the problem is.
Plague Doctor
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They got rid of all these lol
So the only one that can remove that is the store page owner, usually the devs themselves? I don't know how tags work on steam.
Tiago Rodrigues
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Sweet Baby Inc losing Sony as a client in the future?
STARSBarry
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I believe Valve can if its something super offensive, but essentially yes.
Steam Tags (Steamworks Documentation)
"Order and weight of tags
The tags given the most weight govern your visibility more than those given less. Your title's top 5 tags should paint a fairly clear picture of your game as those tags will also be used to describe your game. Tags are ordered on your game page by the amount of weight each has on your game, as a result of your own sorting in the Tag Wizard. This can be modified over time as a number of players apply particular tags to your game. Some store filters prioritize the first 15 tags, so be sure that these are sorted in order of relevance to your title.
As customers add more tags, the weight for those tags will increase. You can remove any tags you find unwanted ("family friendly" for a horror game) or inaccurate ("2D" for a 3D game)."
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Plague Doctor
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Thanks for the info.
I doubt Valve would have done that so it was either Sony or Firewalk themselves.
Yeahhhhhhhh shit is really changing in gaming and quickly.
Bad and/or almost non-existent marketing, too few or no new ideas, characters that lack the personality compared to Overwatch which was top-notch in that regard, over-used and over-saturated genre in a highly competitive environment with GaaS games coming out every month, 40EUR price tag for a genre that has F2P or lower-than-40EUR price conventions, AFAIK PSN requirement for PC version.
I think these are the main points. I'm not really surprised.
I think these are the main points. I'm not really surprised.
Last Hearth
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Topher
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digoutyoursoul
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How many games does Mr Corporate Kiss Arse buy a year
Luipadre
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How many games does Mr Corporate Kiss Arse buy a year
Id take a bloodborne remake over this crap anyday
Plague Doctor
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How many games does Mr Corporate Kiss Arse buy a year
Self righteous shaming of the consumer always works every time, amirite? But there a lot of tells going on with these posts, a shift in their approach. Now we are discussing remakes and the death of original games. Methinks their usual well is running dry on effectiveness. Now... it's about original stories vs. corporate remake sequel slop. Shit is changing.
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Topher
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How many games does Mr Corporate Kiss Arse buy a year
That's a bullshit take. This game isn't failing because it took risks. It is failing because it simply does not appeal to hardly anyone.
Nydius
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Exactly. In fact the game took exactly zero risks except for the DEI/SJW stuff. The game itself is a bog standard shooter that just copied the homework of a bunch of other games and fails to stand out in any meaningful way. It's the epitome of a "safe" game. They thought they had a blockbuster on their hands simply because they were chasing a popular trend, and that people would overlook everything else.
Trend chasing is just as bad, if not worse, than an endless cycle of remakes and remasters.
digoutyoursoul
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It’s the arrogance that gets me. Does that twat even buy games?
DonkeyPunchJr
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Even the DEI stuff probably seemed like a safe bet 8 years ago when this game was conceived (and might’ve helped them get funding). You know they were all drinking the kool aid “oh the modern audience is diverse and they want characters who look like them!”
Heart_Attack
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I love it. Keep the fight. Need to get the woke shit out of videogames.
efyu_lemonardo
May I have a cookie?
8 years down the drain.
Probably well over 1000 man-years of work once you factor in the size of the team.
What a collosal waste.
Probably well over 1000 man-years of work once you factor in the size of the team.
What a collosal waste.
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existensmaximum
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So we're not allowed to dislike any new IPs..? We have to buy them all and support every dev? Nonsense.How many games does Mr Corporate Kiss Arse buy a year
ChorizoPicozo
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mmm how can I tell you that this game had 0 man years of work
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
It's now at 4,900 viewers on Twitch.
Currently 4.6k viewers on Twitch, meaning there are about 80 or so categories/games more popular right now.
3,859 of those viewers are from 4 streams with women in various states of undress.
4,700 of those viewers are on a single channel that's disclosed they've been paid to play and stream the game. There are 40 other streamers streaming the game right now, with 200 views distributed between them.
I guess the popular stream is some sort of semi-famous Overwatch streamer? Anyway, this fuckin overlay on the stream lol
This is Saturday afternoon following a Friday launch. There are more people watching this ad for the game on Twitch than there are people playing it on Steam. It's deader than dead.
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Complistic
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Maybe they should pay everyone to play the game?It's now at 4,900 viewers on Twitch.
4,700 of those viewers are on a single channel that's disclosed they've been paid to play and stream the game. There are 40 other streamers streaming the game right now, with 200 views distributed between them.
I guess the popular stream is some sort of semi-famous Overwatch streamer? Anyway, this fuckin overlay on the stream lol
This is Saturday afternoon following a Friday launch. There are more people watching this ad for the game on Twitch than there are people playing it on Steam. It's deader than dead.
Moridianae
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It's now at 4,900 viewers on Twitch.
4,700 of those viewers are on a single channel that's disclosed they've been paid to play and stream the game. There are 40 other streamers streaming the game right now, with 200 views distributed between them.
I guess the popular stream is some sort of semi-famous Overwatch streamer? Anyway, this fuckin overlay on the stream lol
This is Saturday afternoon following a Friday launch. There are more people watching this ad for the game on Twitch than there are people playing it on Steam. It's deader than dead.
Thats Emongg, a prominent long-term Overwatch streamer with a dedicated audience.
He's 100% being paid to play it and try and get some exposure for the game. Take the bag and run, my friend. It won't make a difference for them in the end.
He's a good guy and I've watched him many times(great tank player) but his audience won't resonate for it either.
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CityHunter1981
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Perhaps developers finally realize that this whole woke thing is hurting their business. Before the start of all these things, I don’t remember anyone complaining about missing representation in games.
And especially this kind of genre was always rather targeted at a male audience. But some people thought suddenly that men and women should be the same and have the same kind of interests.
Men and Women are different and have different interests and that is a good thing. I always imagine what a boring life it would be if my wife would have exactly the same interests like me. Through her I get to know new stuff and that is a good thing.
And then the whole push for diversity and queerness. Do developers really believe it is a good business idea to target their games to queer people (who are around 20% of the population) and drive in the process the main audience away. And I can’t also remember queer people asking for more queer content in games, so it is really strange where this whole push is coming from.
And especially this kind of genre was always rather targeted at a male audience. But some people thought suddenly that men and women should be the same and have the same kind of interests.
Men and Women are different and have different interests and that is a good thing. I always imagine what a boring life it would be if my wife would have exactly the same interests like me. Through her I get to know new stuff and that is a good thing.
And then the whole push for diversity and queerness. Do developers really believe it is a good business idea to target their games to queer people (who are around 20% of the population) and drive in the process the main audience away. And I can’t also remember queer people asking for more queer content in games, so it is really strange where this whole push is coming from.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
It's now at 4,900 viewers on Twitch.
4,700 of those viewers are on a single channel that's disclosed they've been paid to play and stream the game. There are 40 other streamers streaming the game right now, with 200 views distributed between them.
I guess the popular stream is some sort of semi-famous Overwatch streamer? Anyway, this fuckin overlay on the stream lol
This is Saturday afternoon following a Friday launch. There are more people watching this ad for the game on Twitch than there are people playing it on Steam. It's deader than dead.
Looks like it’s gonna peak 30% lower on Saturday than it did Friday. Can’t even hold a player base for 24 hours, I wonder how many refund requests so far.
They spent years working on it and they were paid for their time, despite having no talent or ability to produce something consumers want. And now we’re not even on the hook to pay the bill for the dreck they made, and can safely ignore it. It’s a win-win for all of us! Except for Sony.How many games does Mr Corporate Kiss Arse buy a year
MR ARCADE FOREVER
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11/10
SkylineRKR
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Yeah no.
Stellar Blade and Black Myth are new IP too. But obviously they don't fit their agenda.
Anyway, Concord might be a new IP. Its yet another GaaS shooter with F2P written all over it, and its as safe as they come. It carefully avoids any sort of discussion for the sake of inclusion and diversity. Why would you applaud this? Sorry but I'd take a remake (RE, FF) or sequels (Infinite Wealth, Tekken 8) over this shit any day of the week. Games like Concord that lack any kind of soul and are filled with DEI are in fact the reason I rather play remakes or sequels instead.
These guys poured their heart and soul into a project that no one asked for. Had Sony released a new Socom game instead the player count would probably be higher.
Stellar Blade and Black Myth are new IP too. But obviously they don't fit their agenda.
Anyway, Concord might be a new IP. Its yet another GaaS shooter with F2P written all over it, and its as safe as they come. It carefully avoids any sort of discussion for the sake of inclusion and diversity. Why would you applaud this? Sorry but I'd take a remake (RE, FF) or sequels (Infinite Wealth, Tekken 8) over this shit any day of the week. Games like Concord that lack any kind of soul and are filled with DEI are in fact the reason I rather play remakes or sequels instead.
These guys poured their heart and soul into a project that no one asked for. Had Sony released a new Socom game instead the player count would probably be higher.
ChuckeRearmed
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Well at least with S&B, they have Ubisoft launcher.
Topher
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Question is what does Sony learn from this.
Moridianae
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It isn't altogether dissimilar from Suicide Squad, but even that got a significant delay.
(and I don't for a minute believe it was for polish, it was to try and hope the time would alleviate some of the negative discourse surrounding its reveal)
These developers made a game almost nobody wanted and it's astounding they went ahead and pushed forward.
They, not to put too fine a point on it, made a game for 1% of the population and well, it looks like thats exactly what they got.
(and I don't for a minute believe it was for polish, it was to try and hope the time would alleviate some of the negative discourse surrounding its reveal)
These developers made a game almost nobody wanted and it's astounding they went ahead and pushed forward.
They, not to put too fine a point on it, made a game for 1% of the population and well, it looks like thats exactly what they got.
StreetsofBeige
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A bad product that took years to make, got lousy reviews, and with gaming it can be a pain in the butt to just get a refund, the studio deserves it. Animator worker calling out people on Twitter does no favours either.How many games does Mr Corporate Kiss Arse buy a year
Nothing wrong with remakes and safe sequels. Companies do that all the time whether it's a movie, annual FIFA and COD, or Oreo cookies being sold for 100 years. A good product doesn't have to be mindblowing or reinvent the wheel.
At least if there's going to be a lot of time and budget put into it, pick a product that has a chance to sell. And not funnel it all into a niche product with zero hope of breaking even. That's when you know the company is going agenda hopping, instead of trying to make a product someone wants to make some money to survive another day.
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ChuckeRearmed
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Stellar Blade is a new IP. Black Myth - not exactly.
But the reason they are doing that is because they know that it is hard to replicate a successful idea. Remakes and remasters are also done to the games that used to be quite popular or have a cult status now.
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SSfox
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The person who talked Sony into buying this studio right now:
Hermen Hulst
I warned about this guy..Next in Haven game, tho I don't think this one will be as bad
DAHGAMING
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This is what you get Sony, give us some real shit now, Socom, Resistance, Killzone, The Getaway, or some new ip on that level.
I know I make so many pro Xbox post that should be coming at you as some joke but speaking honestly for me personaly (as a PS5 owner, and every PS console in the past) Sony have been a bigger let down this gen than Microsoft. Im a gamer its my passion since I was a kid, fuck me I jist bust 800 great British bangers on a Rog Ally X, I love hardware, consoles, PC, but most of all games. Both of these mobs have produced dogshit this gen, lets be real between them there top boys are what Halo, Forza H5, ForzaM, Hellblade2, God of War, Horizon FB, GT, fuck all that AstroBot hype, is I was 30yrs younger it would be on my radar but not now.
Im glad these woke joke games are bombing hard, fuck them pussy mandem that make them aswell time to get in the mines and rough yo hands up for onces as creating good games aint for you.
Fingers crossed times will change and we will start to get more game reminiscent of what we have had before bur with modern tech, if not Enjoy more wasted money on these giant piles of stanky shit.
I know I make so many pro Xbox post that should be coming at you as some joke but speaking honestly for me personaly (as a PS5 owner, and every PS console in the past) Sony have been a bigger let down this gen than Microsoft. Im a gamer its my passion since I was a kid, fuck me I jist bust 800 great British bangers on a Rog Ally X, I love hardware, consoles, PC, but most of all games. Both of these mobs have produced dogshit this gen, lets be real between them there top boys are what Halo, Forza H5, ForzaM, Hellblade2, God of War, Horizon FB, GT, fuck all that AstroBot hype, is I was 30yrs younger it would be on my radar but not now.
Im glad these woke joke games are bombing hard, fuck them pussy mandem that make them aswell time to get in the mines and rough yo hands up for onces as creating good games aint for you.
Fingers crossed times will change and we will start to get more game reminiscent of what we have had before bur with modern tech, if not Enjoy more wasted money on these giant piles of stanky shit.
Fake
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SSfox
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I wish