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Concord bombs on Steam with less than 1k players on launch day
- Thread starter Dr. Samuel Hayden
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Cyberpunkd
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The last person left wins the Internet?
Kotaro
Member
Bloodborne Remastered for PC/PS5 would've cost 1/10 of Concord and would probably sell 7-8 million copies
Topher
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Ulysses 31
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Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
It can work…if your game is any good. However, I’d argue that a good game will work on its own merits and that adding DEI will not make it any more successful than it otherwise would be.
So you’re right that it doesn’t work. It just doesn’t do anything for the game. At best, it does nothing and at worst, it harms it.
Also, more and more companies are moving away from DEI. Video games will inevitably follow suit once the sleazebags at the top realize it doesn’t make them money.
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DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Any time I start feeling bad for them, I think of The Professor, and the think about what type of company would hire someone like that, and then it cheers me right back up again.
Angry_Megalodon
Member
Ex Bungies, The Professor, Hermen Hulst aka The Surfer... there's so much to celebrate before regretting collateral damage.
SushiReese
Member
This thread is like reversed Black Myth: Wukong experience.Another milestone achievement, its hitting the 70s.
Imagine we have Golden Raspberry Awards for video games industry, and Concord is definitely GOTY contender there.
Hey, maybe both Phil Spencer and Jim Ryan could win some awards there too.
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Topher
Identifies as young
Between "professor", the ex-employee calling people "talentless freaks", the lead character designer crying about "white privilege"..........the toxic culture of that studio is pretty obvious.
CuckooBananaNuts
Banned
It was very successful as far as successful metrics go, but you’re right. The first one sold over a billion dollars worth while the sequel only hit around half a billion. That may also be due to the 400 different remakes the first game had, which I’m guilty of buying. I didn’t even finish playing the sequel. The woke garbage just kept slapping me in the face the whole time. “Bigot sandwich” was one of the most annoying lines that Ellie throws out right at the very beginning.
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STARSBarry
Gold Member
Last weekend people where asking "will they get into double digits by next weekend?" Now the question is will they get into single digits?
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FunkMiller
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Any time people start feeling sorry for Sony, they should remember shit like this.
They don’t give a fuck about their audience that have sustained them for many years. It’s all about the easiest, quickest way to make the most cash. Fuck ‘em.
Topher
Identifies as young
I'll always be a fan of those PlayStation games that came out of the PS3 and PS4 generations. And now when I see shit like this and I think of how the money they sunk into Concord could have been used to make more of those core PlayStation experiences......just pisses me off. Sony should have doubled down on what they were doing right. I still find it hard to believe that a studio owned by PlayStation made shit like this.
Angry_Megalodon
Member
The fact that not even the staff is playing the game is pretty disturbing. This speaks volumes about the "passion" of those people. If they don't care, why should everyone else?
That's another crazy part to this, misreading your fan base so much. There are plenty of Nintendo franchises I have never bothered to play but I can't imagine any of them selling so badly under 700 people would bother in the release week.
BbMajor7th
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Sony Corp and shareholders would have pressured PlayStation to keep growing. They were already killing it with market share and quality single-player IPs by the end of PS4, so there was little juice left to squeeze on that front. Hence the expansion onto PC, the move towards film and television, and the massive investment in GAAS. You can never be successful enough in the corporate game - even if you're close to outright owning your traditional market and can efficiently spit out GOTY contenders every single year, it doesn't mean shit - do twice as much next year or lay off some staff.
SportsFan581
Member
To be fair, the developers probably play on PS and not Steam, it is first party and all.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
CompleteGlobalSaturation
Member
Fire Herman Hulst. He's a bonafine clown.
Good point. But we know they gave out keys to randos and media outlets so we can never know exactly how bad it was. We will never know how many of the 697 weren't paying customers, but if each of the 200 staff gave out two keys each...To be fair, the developers probably play on PS and not Steam, it is first party and all.
Topher
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wipeout364
Member
I wonder how long they wait before making the FTP announcement with the inevitable relaunch that goes with it.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
I think the general public are finally catching on as well. Just in the last year or two it really feels like something has changed. Like in the back of people’s minds they’ve known for some time that something has been ruining their entertainment, now they’ve become much more consciously aware of it and learned to identify it.
Bud Light + Harley Davidson backing off from DEI, Target scaling back their pride month stuff, Madame Web, The Marvels, Indiana Jones, Suicide Squad KtJL, The Acolyte, Rings of Power, Sweet Baby Inc Detected, Snow White, anything that looks like it’s for “modern audiences” getting ratio’d to hell, etc etc
Used to be that if they just hyped the shit out of something + shamed the critics into obedience by labeling them a bunch of phobes, they could get audiences to gobble up whatever entertainment slop they were pushing without questioning it.
That ain’t working anymore. The audience has caught on to their tricks. And I think if they go all in with the “modern audiences” shit in the next Spider-Man, Gow, Horizon, or TLoU game, they are going to see a lot more immediate and forceful pushback from the audience. Maybe they won’t flop but it will make a noticeable impact to their sales.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
CuckooBananaNuts
Banned
Exactly. I used to blindly buy things because I love the franchise. Now I’m much careful of who my money goes to. Speaking with our wallets is the only way to get these people’s attention.
HogIsland
Member
I actually was excited to play this game, even for $40. But Playstation is imposing the PSN sign-in and it doesn't work with Steam Deck / Steam OS. As long as Sony is going to ruin Steam support, I'm not buying their shit. The Finals and Overwatch work great and are free, so I'll play those instead.
Tiago Rodrigues
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I really don't think Bloodborne is dead as a franchise. Sony will eventually release that remake / remaster for sure.
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kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
The problem is that developing a game is like steering a tanker. The push back against wokeism is getting stronger all the time, but even if studio heads are taking notice, it will take years before we see that change reflected in the games that are coming out. It takes 5-6 years to develop an AAA game, a game with a release date in 2025 was probably conceived in 2020 when gamers weren't that clued in to what was happening.
Personally I'm not too hopeful. Sony studios like Naught Dog, Insomniac, Guerilla are all infested by woke politics. It's going to get worse before it will become better.
PeteBull
Member
4sure, thats why burden is on us- players/customers to point those clueless devs into right direction, they will get the point after few more woke non innovative games bomb hard and bring heavy losses while at the same time games w/o politics and agenda, like for example wukong, thrive and get amazing sales numbers.
Kotaro
Member
Yup, Sony's studios are at the forefront of wokeness movement in gaming industry. and I don't think that's gonna change anytime soon with Herman Hulst at the helm. Probably gonna take several mega flops like Concord to educate them
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Yup, that sure sucks for them. Not my problem. Hopefully they correctly identify the dipshits adding negative value to their product when it comes time for the next round of layoffs.
I’ll be over here playing something else in the meantime. I have plenty to keep me busy between Japanese games and my huge Steam backlog.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
I’m just glad that Concord exists. It’s brought us all together.
diffusionx
Gold Member
I'm glad people are starting to realize this. GAAS push + tanking the brand to squeeze out some short term cash on PC + mismanagement of the schedule and teams + this bizarre push to make Horizon a thing = dude sucks and is going to leave Sony a pile of rubble to clean up.
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Plague Doctor
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I sometimes believe these companies either no longer do the market research with different groups of potential consumers, or they disregard it.
And if they are doing the market research or hiring a firm to do it, fire them cause they are not hitting the right groups or doing it expansive enough.
But let's be real.... if they are doing said research, they are looking to confirm their own personal wants and conducting it in such a way where they will get close to the results they want. Then they hand it to their clueless executives to validate their decisions. It's probably all a finesse game by the lead producers.
And if they are doing the market research or hiring a firm to do it, fire them cause they are not hitting the right groups or doing it expansive enough.
But let's be real.... if they are doing said research, they are looking to confirm their own personal wants and conducting it in such a way where they will get close to the results they want. Then they hand it to their clueless executives to validate their decisions. It's probably all a finesse game by the lead producers.
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kikii
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i love TFD which is gaas =) but such as Concord and Dumbborn i dont like that they push their own agenda aka "the Message" to ppl, noone wana see pronouns in their game or any other "trigger" stuffs
ChorizoPicozo
Member
wait, has men in boxes finally seen the light?I’m just glad that Concord exists. It’s brought us all together.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
That person doesn’t count.
Fake
Member
IMO Wolverine will be their final coffin.
I mean, Wolverine vs Deadpool is like the movie back from the badass gigachads, but when people that saw the movie go and play Wolverine they will get a huge surprise.
This will open the eyes of the consumers.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
CompleteGlobalSaturation
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All Sony first party titles have been shit this generation.
The last good Sony game I played was Ghost of Tsushima.
Drunkensamurai
Member
Promote Shuhei Yoshida and bring back Adam Boyes.