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Concord is being taken offline on September 6, purchases refunded
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
With the way James has been fighting so hard to die on this (ultimately meaningless) hill, his username should probably be changed to another three named gentleman: George Armstrong Custer.
VulcanRaven
Member
Naughty Dog is probably happy that they didn't make The Last of Us multiplayer now. It would have been risky. It would have had a lot better chances to do well though because of the IP.
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YukiOnna
Member
Lol acting like Insomniac now, I see. When did Sony turn into a company that is afraid/angry of user reaction being negative rather than properly meeting expectations of their core players and launching games they want than this message farce
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Massive marketing push? Where? And no, controllers don’t count
The studio acquisition cost isn’t factored in to the dev cost unless they get shut down. Either way the cost couldn’t have been much - the studio had no IP or any games to their name at all
Yeah it’s a big flop, no denying it, but no reason to not continue seeking GaaS winners like HD2.
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Did Firewalk even post this message on the Concord Twitter/X account? I dont have an X account, but that profile is public, but I still dont see it.
ManaByte
Gold Member
The Concord account has been dormant since launch.
mindfreak191
Member
"We want to thank our fans"....what fans?
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
I've been seeing something weird happen today with all sorts of people saying they "feel bad for the devs". Why? If you didn't buy the game, if you don't have close friends or family who work at Firewalk, why feel bad for them? Failure is normal. People fail at things all the time. It's only when you refuse to learn from a failure to be better when that failure becomes an anchor holding you back.
I'm obviously not calling for Firewalk to be shut down; again they could probably do a solid job in the AA space with one of SIE's legacy IPs, or as a support studio. And apparently they have some tech that will be useful for SIE in the longer-term anyhow. But I'm not gonna say I "feel bad" for what's happened here. They made a game that had little appeal to the market. The market responded. The result was a resounding failure. It happens sometimes.
Even if the studio were to unfortunately be shut down...well studios behind much better and better-selling games have been shut down over BS reasons time and again. Those displaced either find jobs at other studios or transition to a different industry. Since I didn't buy Concord, I can't really say I "feel bad" for the devs because if I did I would've bought the game, but I'd of only bought it if it appealed to me, which it didn't. Either that or, again, I had close family & friends working at the studio, which also isn't the case.
It's just such a paper-thin sentiment for pleasantries, feels like. Well, enough musing.
I'm obviously not calling for Firewalk to be shut down; again they could probably do a solid job in the AA space with one of SIE's legacy IPs, or as a support studio. And apparently they have some tech that will be useful for SIE in the longer-term anyhow. But I'm not gonna say I "feel bad" for what's happened here. They made a game that had little appeal to the market. The market responded. The result was a resounding failure. It happens sometimes.
Even if the studio were to unfortunately be shut down...well studios behind much better and better-selling games have been shut down over BS reasons time and again. Those displaced either find jobs at other studios or transition to a different industry. Since I didn't buy Concord, I can't really say I "feel bad" for the devs because if I did I would've bought the game, but I'd of only bought it if it appealed to me, which it didn't. Either that or, again, I had close family & friends working at the studio, which also isn't the case.
It's just such a paper-thin sentiment for pleasantries, feels like. Well, enough musing.
Draugoth
Gold Member
People at the top of a company live a completely different life than normal working class people do, it probably never crossed their minds this would bomb, just like it never crossed Warner Bros. Minds that Suicide Squad would bomb.
Also any journalist like Jason Scheier who doesnt believe culture war didnt play a part on this is delusional.
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Kacho
Gold Member
Nope. This is unprecedented.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Hey, maybe if Sony wants to bump up users, just keep posting the game will shut down and players refunded.
Today, the game hit the highest steamdb CCU in 3 days at 132. It happened hours ago after the announcement. So it's daily peak is actually trending up for the first time ever.
If more people know about the shut down, more people will get in their last gasp playthroughs. LOL. Maybe on Sept 6 it might exceed 697.
Today, the game hit the highest steamdb CCU in 3 days at 132. It happened hours ago after the announcement. So it's daily peak is actually trending up for the first time ever.
If more people know about the shut down, more people will get in their last gasp playthroughs. LOL. Maybe on Sept 6 it might exceed 697.
YukiOnna
Member
I think Schreier is still salty about being called out for skill issue over Xenoblade
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Not quite. Plenty of games never even see the market with much bigger losses already baked in
Only thing unprecedented is the speed at which Sony acted, but kinda their fault for not making it F2P like rival competing games in this space
They thought it was like HD2 and clearly that was a poor comparison
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Think that's a typo. Probably meant "employees".
balls of snow
Member
Outlaws broke Greg’s mind
Jesus dude
He should be like that first 43 seconds all the time
This and Jeff G podcast. My morning gonna be fun today.
Mr. PlayStation
Member
What is this culture war?
near
Gold Member
The IP existed before Sony decided to enter a publishing agreement, and that was before they decided to buy the studio. The IP was most likely owned by ProbablyMonsters. Either way, it is an assumption on my part that it cost more than $100m, and it is on your part that it cost less. What we do know is that it is a flop, and a hilarious one at that. No point defending this catastrophe.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
No, Sony always owned the IP once they published the game
There’s literally no tangible or intangible value to the studio acquisition, it was likely not an expensive purchase relative to other studio acquisitions with IP or pedigree history
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Draugoth
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The so called fight on 'Woke' media like Concord, Snow White etc
Yoboman
Member
Yeah I don't care about equal wack jobs on the other side. These woke mobs can be lame, morally superior and talentless at making interesting media without being pedophiles and groomers
Honestly the whole woke movement is dying of its own volition from its lameness. Describing every purple head as a groomer is not necessary
StueyDuck
Member
Jaffe really has become a bit of a turtle as of late. The best part is saying that the game didn't fail because it's woke, then goes on to describe word for word exactly what wokeness is when he talks about the characters and why they are bad.
it's weird that people are so brainwashed that woke just means a skin color. It's always been about forced DEI and people creating the entertainment looking down and hating their audience, that is what woke is. it's got nothing to do with race gender etc.
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near
Gold Member
Where are you getting this information from?
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Incredible. Any day now, this game will have more players than Concord.
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
Tango Gameworks had two multi-million sellers back to back (Tokyo Ghostwire and Hi-Fi Rush) and STILL got shut down. You're right, it happens even when there isn't a good reason behind it.
GHG
Member
Heads should and will roll over this at Sony.
Everyone involved in the decision to purchase this turd of a studio and allow them to release this game as it was should be fired with immediate effect.
They have so many current and legacy IP that could comfortably be utilised to create GAAS games (if they must, I'm still of the option that they should have no business even creating GAAS games) but they decided to purchased Firewalk and then release this? GTFO.
Everyone involved in the decision to purchase this turd of a studio and allow them to release this game as it was should be fired with immediate effect.
They have so many current and legacy IP that could comfortably be utilised to create GAAS games (if they must, I'm still of the option that they should have no business even creating GAAS games) but they decided to purchased Firewalk and then release this? GTFO.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
In this day, they would have probably relaunched SOCOM as an MP only live service focused game.
Kerotan
Member
A win for Sony single player fans.
A win for based gamers.
Having said that I think the majority are not woke or anti woke. However like around 2010 when people were getting bored of your generic white super soldier which was done to death people are now getting very bored of your diversity casts. It's too samey. You need a good balance between both.
Now is the time for the blue haired freaks to take a back seat or even yet get fired. They should have no influence on a games creative side.
A win for based gamers.
Having said that I think the majority are not woke or anti woke. However like around 2010 when people were getting bored of your generic white super soldier which was done to death people are now getting very bored of your diversity casts. It's too samey. You need a good balance between both.
Now is the time for the blue haired freaks to take a back seat or even yet get fired. They should have no influence on a games creative side.
Buggy Loop
Member
Or Team Ico, was my favorite studio at Sony and part of what made it really special compared to Nintendo and Xbox during PS2 era. Ico & Shadow of the colossus, GOATs.
Ridicululzz
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Good to see Sony acting quick, and hopefully this teaches them a lesson about putting out garbage like this.
GHG
Member
Farcical.
Turn the fucking comments on and make everyone read every single one you cowards.
Spooky Scary Skeleton
Member
The game is no longer showing up on steam. It's dead jim
StreetsofBeige
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Evo studios made racing games that sold millions. They could had made a Forza Horizon kind of game. FH4 and FH5 still have lots of gamers playing despite being old games. And a game like this wouldnt cannibalize GT7 since thats a totally different game, just like Motorstorms and DC didnt affect GT either.
DerivedDataCache
Member
How much money you think Sony got from BlackRock to put out this DEI game?
And how much did they pay for Firewalk?
Wonder what their burn rate is now. For staff and servers.
Highly doubt that even making it free to play is gonna save Concord.
They could keep the maps and the modes but if they change the characters they're basically throwing all those expensive cinematics in the trash.
And how much did they pay for Firewalk?
Wonder what their burn rate is now. For staff and servers.
Highly doubt that even making it free to play is gonna save Concord.
They could keep the maps and the modes but if they change the characters they're basically throwing all those expensive cinematics in the trash.
Neon Xenon
Member
Yes, Jason, there's people who are blaming Concord belly flopping solely on "muh diversity" instead of being incredibly unappealing all around. Yes, this talking point comes up way too often. Yes, it's annoying to see it over and over again in place of actual thinking.
At the same time, if it's such a stupid talking point from "the most annoying people on the planet", then why are you even giving it any sort of credence in a tweet, Jason?
Also, let's not ignore the fact that most of the reason Jason is seeing this is because he's engaging with the black hole of stupid bullshit called Twitter.
mayham2199
Member
I agree that it looks worse to do this move than to just let the game run pointlessly for another year before canceling it. Luckily Sony cares a lot more about money than optics. This will be the topic of the week on the internet for like a week and we will all forget about it. Meanwhile Sony will save millions. No one bought the game so like 95% of the Sony's audience wont even know or care.
Some of these live service games go on so long only to be canceled after a year because they tried to make it work. Can't even imagine how much suicide squad is losing by their constant updates and trying to hope they can turn things around.
Buggy Loop
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James Sawyer Ford
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StreetsofBeige
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GHG
Member
All it proves is that they don't want to learn and aren't listening.
More bullshit like this to come I guess.
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