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[nikolino840]

A society where every woman and their dog (sometimes with) are throwing themselves on onlyfans under the guise of "empowerment" - all good

Having a bit of naughty fun in a videogame photography mode - no bueno

This could be a perfect reply for a perv that install webcams in ladies toilet in a trial judge c'mon have you seen only fans?

 

[GHG]

This could be a perfect reply for a perv that install webcams in ladies toilet in a trial judge c'mon have you seen only fans?

Nah this is how they reply:

 

[The Chairman]

This is unacceptable

 

[Shake Your Rump]

The game is still playable on 360 and was already remastered once on PS4. Who is asking for another remaster?

 

[llLeonhart]

Once again. Easy.

Don't agree with it? Don't cry about it. Just don't buy it.

Let the "modern audiencies" do it.

I used to think like this, and yes, while money talks, I realized companies are fucking stupid. They'll attribute all kinds of different motives as to why it didn't sell, except the right ones. So yeah, feedback is absolutely paramount. Don't buy it, but let them know why you're not buying also.

 

[John Bilbo]

hehe erotica pp

 

[Mr Hyde]

And you're assuming that it's something that I need in my life - it's not.

If it's not a feature you hold dear, then why are you so defensive to what I said.

However the original developers thought it would be a bit of fun and and some of the people who played the original game enjoyed it. It wasn't a problem then, so why is it a problem now?

You can't expect a society to not evolve and some things to not been seen as inappropriate over time? That's how it functions in the world. Some things that were seen as okay then are not now. Otherwise we would still live in caves and beat our women over the head with a club everytime we wanted to get laid.

I usually don't agree with censorship, a game developers vision should be respected. A dead authors books should not be rewritten because it has "problematic" writing. A musician's work should not be erased because he/she did something wrong. We should learn from history and not erase it. But a feature like this in Dead Rising? It's not naughty or titillating. And it's certainly not fun. It doesn't add anything. It's just downright perverted and creepy.

 

[Wildebeest]

Game totally ruined.

 

[adamsapple]

hehe erotica pp

Take erotic pictures for massive PP.

 

[Mr Hyde]

What do you want, a world where people are afraid to tell stories and develop fictional settings/scenarios all because some blue hair whales might get offended by it?

Not at all. Why are you putting words in my mouth, assuming I want this just because I think a feature like this is creepy and disgusting? Some things are just wrong, doesn't mean you should put limits on your creativity and be afraid of telling stories, whether they be raunchy or not. But there are certain scenarios that I think is morally wrong and this one feature is such.

 

[shamoomoo]

A society where every woman and their dog (sometimes with) are throwing themselves on onlyfans under the guise of "empowerment" - all good

Having a bit of naughty fun in a videogame photography mode - no bueno

No, no. I don't like when folks use something that's seen as bad to justify another that is seen as bad, especially when the other activity isn't necessary in this context.

 

[Draugoth]

Honestly this feature was extremely sexist even by 2010 standards, can see why Capcom ethics department would want this feature removed, journos would review bomb this to the ground because of the feature and i dont think they want to deal with the pressure.

It's clear that they will also censor female clothing, that's what pisses me off more.

 

[GHG]

If it's not a feature you hold dear, then why are you so defensive to what I said.

If you see something happening that you don't like you don't say or do anything about it just because it doesn't affect you personally?

You can't expect a society to not evolve and some things to not been seen as inappropriate over time? That's how it functions in the world. Some things that were seen as okay then are not now. Otherwise we would still live in caves and beat our women over the head with a club everytime we wanted to get laid.

Not all "evolution" is positive. The issue that we have now is that people are being beaten with a stick being told what is "good" vs what is "bad" from up above, without society being given the opportunity to self-police and collectively decide on a path forward.

It should release as it originally was, then people can decide for themselves whether or not they want to purchase it. If customers collectively see this feature as a negative thing (to the degree where it should have been removed) then they won't purchase the game and the industry has a reference upon which to learn from.

I usually don't agree with censorship, a game developers vision should be respected. A dead authors books should not be rewritten because it has "problematic" writing. A musician's work should not be erased because he/she did something wrong. We should learn from history and not erase it.

Exactly, so in that context, there's no reason for this to be removed.

But a feature like this in Dead Rising? It's not naughty or titillating. And it's certainly not fun. It doesn't add anything. It's just downright perverted and creepy.

That's just your opinion on it. It should be left to players to decide whether or not they want to interact with it in the way that is left open for them to do so in the original game.

No, no. I don't like when folks use something that's seen as bad to justify another that is seen as bad, especially when the other activity isn't necessary in this context.

Neither activity is "necessary", but one is ok according to society today while the other warrants removal from a work of fiction.

 

[shamoomoo]

i really dont understand why these people keep shoving these political crap to us.
it will not work, it wont work.

That doesn't make any sense,any form of media that's new to you was already created with a certain message. The fact there is/was a creep element to Dead Raising means the creator thought a certain segment of their consumers have a aborrent behavior.

 

[AJUMP23]

Games creators are removing the finny stuff.

 

[TheInfamousKira]

I, too, eagerly await the Code Veronica remake where Claire is the villain and Alfred is the unlikely hero.

Will sit pretty next to Street Stern Disagreement 7 on my shelf.

 

[Moses85]

 

[Bring Back Scalebound]

If anyone here is surprised by this, wow m8...

Capcom has been starting to slowly go into full on "Hades 2/SafeHorny" territory for a while.

You get your Cammys and your Juris for now, just so the transition isn't super drastic.

But yeah... Everyone that was laughing at people complaining about the R.Mika censorship and Chun Li and Cammy nipple cover-up in Street Fighter 5, get to slowly see what Capcom will full on turn into in a few years.

 

[Stafford]

Really, didn't they censor dialogue about bazookas in Remake 4? I don't see the problem there or here. It's lame AF.

Nah, it's not really a problem. But at the same time I'm like, leave it as it is. But ah well.

 

[LordCBH]

Of course. It's modern Crapcom afterall.

 

[nikolino840]

And you're assuming that it's something that I need in my life - it's not.

However the original developers thought it would be a bit of fun and and some of the people who played the original game enjoyed it. It wasn't a problem then, so why is it a problem now?

The onlyfans reference was commentary on how society has evolved since the original release, not specific to anything you said. You're missing the forest for the trees here.



See above.

Well at least today we can know the changes...lots of anime was censored in italy for funny scenes with boobs panties naked jokes in the 80s 90s 00s without anyone knew the changes until the internet globalization
Woke or prudish bigots?

 

[OmegaSupreme]

Of course. It's modern Crapcom afterall.

Who have made amazing games. Lots of them. This is lame though.

 

[lughnasadh123]

If objectification, which I'm entirely for, didn't skew one way, this might not have an been an issue. I get why they removed it but am a bit disappointed by the choice.

Still fucking hilarious how people are more worried about the creep factor instead of the gore.

 

[Mr Hyde]

If you see something happening that you don't like you don't say or do anything about it just because it doesn't affect you personally?

Of course I do, if it's something really serious. Getting upset and seeing red by another persons opinion on a video game forum? Not so much.

Not all "evolution" is positive. The issue that we have now is that people are being beaten with a stick being told what is "good" vs what is "bad" from up above, without society being given the opportunity to self-police and collectively decide on a path forward.

Of course not. And I agree with some of the things you say about devs (or people in power, generally speaking) lecturing us what is good or bad. Some of it is taken to the extreme and I totally get that people are getting fed up with shit like that at this point. But when it comes to the video game industry growing up and omitting features like this in Dead Rising, I personally see it as a good thing. I would've said the same thing about the sex mini games in God of War 3 too. Totally cringe and unnecessary if you ask me.

That's just your opinion on it. It should be left to players to decide whether or not they want to interact with it in the way that is left open for them to do so in the original game.

Yes, that's all it is. My opinion. And in the case of this remaster of Dead Rising, it seems Capcom agrees with that opinion since they are removing the feature. In the next game maybe they don't care about my opinion and instead goes along with yours because people voted with their wallet and showed Capcom that the decision to remove this feature was the wrong move.

 

[IAmNotFromDelaware]

Don't see any issue removing this. It's fucking creepy.

How about don't buy the game if you don't like it. Removing it for everyone because some find it creepy?
For classic movies with creepy scenes, should they remove the creepy scenes when they are re-released?

Gimme a break.

 

[nikolino840]

If objectification, which I'm entirely for, didn't skew one way, this might not have an been an issue. I get why they removed it but am a bit disappointed by the choice.

Still fucking hilarious how people are more worried about the creep factor instead of the gore.

I will not be surprised if in japan there's no gore but the erotica thing

 

[The_hunter]

That's so lame

 

[simpatico]

I bet the jawline on these zombies broads is gonna be crazy.

 

[Hypereides]

Enjoy the "deluxe" remaster, folks. Now, with 10 times more GRAFIX and 10 times less attitude. Awesome.

All AAA publishers should take note and completely trivialize their games from now out. Make them as mundane as possible. That'll definitely excite people.

 

[Krathoon]

Like I always say...

Just play the orignal.

Screw that bullshit.

 

[Krathoon]

Now, the erotica thing is still in the original, right?

They better not have censored it.

 

[peek]

Booooo! That was one of the more unique aspects of the game! Sex bad! Violence good! Me smart now.

 

[Krathoon]

You better watch out. They may yank the original game off the store.

Buy it now.

 

[Lucifers Beard]

Don't see any issue removing this. It's fucking creepy.

Creepy to joke around in a game and have a bit of silly fun where nobody gets hurt in real life? OK bud...

 

[NeverYouMind]

Can I still disembowel soldiers with body armor using a single button press? Is the dropping knee still as damaging and invincible as in the original? Is the 70's accountant outfit in this? Are the animations vastly improved? These are the questions I really want answers to.

P.S. Only used camera at start to level and during rival sidequest.

 

[Krathoon]

The whole idea behind the erotica designation is that it is a joke thing that can pop up when you taking a picture of a woman.

 

[Saber]

A society where every woman and their dog (sometimes with) are throwing themselves on onlyfans under the guise of "empowerment" - all good

Having a bit of naughty fun in a videogame photography mode - no bueno

How can I play an adult game with my kids around? I want to play games like Mortal Kombat with my kids without worring about sexual content!

 

[Krathoon]

It is kind of an end of an era. You used to have all kinds of sexual jokes show up in the 80s, 90s, and early 2000's.

Now, people get pissy about it. We have taken a step backwards.

We had the friggin' American Pie movies.

 

[Mr Hyde]

How about don't buy the game if you don't like it. Removing it for everyone because some find it creepy?
For classic movies with creepy scenes, should they remove the creepy scenes when they are re-released?

Gimme a break.

I'm just voicing MY opinion in that I think this particular feature is creepy and perverted. It's not like I was a major factor in Capcoms decision to remove it for everyone else. If they had decided to include it and let the game be untouched I wouldn't have objected to it either. I would've just moved on. It's the devs decision, and this time it's a decision I agree with, hence I'm saying what I think.

The movie analogy is a poor comparison too, since movies and games are fundamentally different. Movies are passive entertainment and a scene like this would've have probably played off differently in the eyes of the viewer, more akin to voyeurism. Games are interactive and let's you participate in these actions and act like a creep who gets awarded for taking pictures of women's crotches is not something I would enjoy. It's the same as I wouldn't want to play a rape simulator either. Or a dude shooting up the school. As I said before, some things I think are morally wrong and this feature in DR is one of them.

 

[Plague Doctor]

Damn, the industry turned into a bunch of fucking moralist puritans that would have made 90s religious conservative assholes proud. I don't even care for the erotica points, I am just disappointed this was a problematic point of issue to the devs.

 

[Madserb2023]

Never thought we would be going back to the 19th century so quickly. It's not a big deal but what a lot of progressives don't seem to understand is that in the past, those who pushed for prudishness didn't end up being the good guys.

 

[Filben]

Sigh, of course it doesn't.

 

[Danny Dudekisser]

This is really stupid. Obviously, it's not some massive, game-breaking problem... but was it really so bad that it was in there? It's a silly, funny bit of nothing. Who does removing it help?

 

[Mister Wolf]

Cowards.

 

[FoxMcChief]

Of course not.

Can't be having that in 2024 can we now?

Meanwhile Tifa sex dolls are flying off the shelves.

 

[Gonzito]

I hope I can live long enough to see the day where society stop listening to these leftists psychopaths, I am so done with this woke trash world we live in

 

[Krathoon]

I remember all kinds of sexy jokes on Comedy Central in the 90s.

Then suddenly, IT IS WRONG AND CREEPY TO DO THAT.

 

[Krathoon]

If these people watched Benny Hill, they would have a stroke.

 

[Guerilla Munch]

 

[Rentahamster]

Now I'm going to have to pretend and use my imagination to insert erotica PP into the game, just like when I play Pokémon Snap.