Do you bitter critters still think PS5 is cemented as PlayStation's worst generation?

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Yes. PS1, PS2, PS3, PS4. All better than PS5, imo.

That doesn't mean PS5 is a shit console. Everything is relative.
 
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People can think what they want, but there's no doubt that PS5 has been the one that has defeated Xbox as a direct competitor and turned it into its ally.

Sony is lucky; it has outlasted Jim Ryan and has won over its competitor's entire exclusive catalog.
 
When it comes first party internal studios? Yep its the worst. I love the console itself despite some gripes about the design that I believes cause problems.
 
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The sentiment is PlayStations 1st party games is the worse its ever been. Which historically has been the biggest draw for PlayStation. And that is a fair assessment.

Every generation the difference between a Xbox and PlayStation has been relatively the same. The one big differentiator was the exclusives, ps4 had that in spades and Xbox did not.
 
Pc has tons of exclusives still.

It also has a massive history of stufff that is mostly still compatible and other possibilities like emulation. Strategy games are also still lacking on consoles. Maybe always will be. Buuuuut somehow I doubt sony making strategy games and indies that don't hit big would change the vibe.
 
Bitter critters? Up to great start already.

I'm very critical about Sony games as whole, even though I like my PS5. The game department not only is being incredibly dissapointing, but also veeery cringe, social political fetish all over it and totally disconected with the gamers.. Hopefully Hermen is kicked.
 
It's not the worst Playstation gen, mostly because the PS3 was so incredibly awful that it'd be hard to top that.

There are a lot of good games on the PS5, but the issue is that there's next to no differentiation between it, the Xbox, and PC. The games are mostly the same, save for Sony's half-assed GaaS titles. And that's disappointing. Most of what I play on the PS5 is stuff that's kind of borked on PC and niche, Japanese-y stuff for weirdos.
 
Maybe I'm to old now but yep deffo ps5 worse generation of total number of enjoyable games , didn't buy a pro as my ps5 just sat there collecting dust since last yr, I've bought the switch 2 and think that will be the last console I'll ever buy , prob still upgrade my pc but won't be going ps6 or next Xbox going forward just what I've got and my pc emulating past consoles as well as my collection of retro etc consoles to play
 
Switch and PC, yeah.

Do multiplatform games count on pc but not on ps? In general, hardware is bought to play whatever games are on it. We here though tend to have multiple platforms and end up with a shitload of overlap. But there's really no reason to consider multiplatform games essentially pc exclusives. "Really no reason" is putting it gently.
 
Look, here's the thing. There's never been a bad playstation. So "worst" is a relative term.

If I'm only counting Sony's output, maybe I would say this gen has been their worst output but if I'm counting the PS5 device itself, the PS5 is the best Playstation they have ever made by a longshot. It has the best release schedule of anything. Is has the best slate in gaming and it's not even close. PS5 is a monster console that will have an amazing legacy and everyone should own one.

Is that good enough?

Pretty much this. this is the worst gen by Sony - still better than majority of consoles done by other companies.

Real old school Sony fans (like me) are bitching about lack of first party exclusives that we loved for decades, GaaS and DEI/Woke push in games that are released...
New Sony fans are jerking off to sales charts :/
 
The capitulation of Xbox as an entity has helped Sony for sure.. starting with their confusing naming convention of consoles and then Phil's started to spend crazy money on Daddy's plastic, has given Sony a free roll so far.

Hope the SoP is a turning point. As their offerings hasn't been great so far.
 
If it weren't for Death Stranding 2, I probably wouldn't even own a PS5 right now. I don't think this generation has been that bad so far, and Sony's first-party output seems more or less in line with the PS4, in my opinion. I guess it just feels like there aren't many strong incentives to buy the system, especially if you already own a PC or an Xbox Series X.
 
The PS5 is great. The PS4/3/2/1 were greater.

But the PS5 is still great.
 
Do multiplatform games count on pc but not on ps? In general, hardware is bought to play whatever games are on it. We here though tend to have multiple platforms and end up with a shitload of overlap. But there's really no reason to consider multiplatform games essentially pc exclusives. "Really no reason" is putting it gently.
Since I already have a PC what would I need a PlayStation for?
 
I have owned over 100 PS3 games. The same goes for PS4.

PS5? Currently own 24 games.

Could be better, could be worse.

On the Sony made games front, I have three games.
 
100% the worst PlayStation generation. They have the best controller ever made and their console hardware is phenomenally engineered.

But their software output has been atrocious -- a clear indicator that the creative and bizdevvvvvv talent have exited the company a long time ago. If they don't get it together, like really really figure some shit out, they will run into a PS3-esque situation with the PS6. I guarantee it.
 
The games from they 1st party studios have been kinda weak latelly, compared to previous gens. They started the gen really strong with Demon's Souls, Returnal, Ratchet Rift Apart, GoW Ragnarok, Horizon FW, Miles Morales, GT7, but then has been years where they biggest games are all 3rd party.

PS5 is not the worst gen, its one of the best to me. But when it comes to 1st party games, it has been pretty weak outside of they initial games, also didnt helped that most of these game were all cross gen.
 
Yup. This is the worst Sony gen for me (skipped ps2). The cross gen bs went on for 3 years. The 1st party output is embarrassing. Chasing gaas this entire gen and learning nothing. Putting out psvr2 with no 1st party games besides horizon is a crime.
 
It's got very little of true platform exclusives, compared to previous gen, especially pre-PS3 era, and such trend really accelerated this gen.. so I find that I don't turn my PS5 on often at all. In fact, I haven't turned it on like half a year already.

As per price and value... Price increases on both hardware and PSN subscription - it's a big negative on the value proposition vs PC (even though PC also has it's own issues with inflated GPU prices, so I guess it evens out). But compared to the previous gen, it's definitely the worst.

However, gaming in general, I don't particularly think it's great but calling it the worst would be going little too far. There are always some games worth playing, but we rarely see the "generation defining" type of innovation and achievements in gaming these days anyhow.

If you can only afford a single console, and somehow cannot, or refuse to play a game on a PC - I guess it's still the best platform to be on - but that's really not saying much, given there's no competition in stand-alone console market.
 
Its the first Playstation generation I dont even want a Playstation console so i think by default it has to be the worst right?




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I also dont think we have had that OMG!!! Moment with the PS5.
The Unreal Engine 5 reveal and the Matrix demo were both super impressive but were multiplatform so legit could have been showed independently even.


With the PS4 some of those E3 reveals were so fucking mad.
Uncharted 4
God of War'18
Spider-Man
The Last of Us Part 2


The PS3 generation also had some scratch your head how did they do this shit moments:
The Last of Us
God of War 3
Killzone 2 actually delivering
Metal Gear Solid
Uncharted train and plane.


Even if I was more of an Xbox gamer, I would always be so excited for Sonys reveals cuz they would show some bangers.........right now I literally say....the next one will get me everytime....so far it hasnt yet.
But im holding out hope, these studios have to be working on some bangers right.....right.....right?
 
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