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Doctor Who 50th Anniversary |OT| Splendid Chap, All Of Them

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Given the fact we now know for certain Moffat had a place for Chris' Doctor and he decided not to do it, I think it's a fair assumption that Paul may well take his place.
 
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FatboyRoberts said:
I missed this. Link?
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A story hit the British newspapers saying that Eccleston had backed out "at the last minute" and had fucked production. The BBC did something fairly unprecedented for them and actually put a statement out to the press saying that, yes, Eccleston had met with Moffat and discussed his ideas and plans for the 50th, but decided not to pursue it. They were also clear in pointing out it happened early enough that his choosing not to do it didn't impact production.

You can find it all over. The statement struck me as them not wanting the talk of him backing out to piss off Eccleston, so they did damage control of a sort on his behalf.

If Moffat met with him, Moffat clearly had intentions for the ninth Doctor in the story, the same way he had a vague idea about the Tenth Doctor for series 5 when Tennant had his wobble over leaving. Eccleston decided no in the end, which means that role in the story Moffat had in mind would need to be either recast or reassigned. The way I see it, that role will have either been split between Tennant and Smith or will go to McGann - it's just a logical conclusion.
 
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FatboyRoberts said:
I missed this. Link?

edit: the relevant quotes:

"I think Chris Eccleston's a big factor in it; Chris is probably reluctant to get involved in anything that's ongoing.

"Once they resolve Chris Eccleston's participation, or non-participation, either way, then they're free then, to, write the thing... we'll know more then. Being actors anyway, they'll call us on the Friday and say you're starting on the Monday. So we're not gonna know until the eleventh hour."
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Well played, Paul McGann. Well played.
 
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Then it seems like McGann is directly referencing the above w/ these quotes:

"I think Chris Eccleston's a big factor in it; Chris is probably reluctant to get involved in anything that's ongoing.

"Once they resolve Chris Eccleston's participation, or non-participation, either way, then they're free then, to, write the thing... we'll know more then. Being actors anyway, they'll call us on the Friday and say you're starting on the Monday. So we're not gonna know until the eleventh hour."
 
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Your mileage may vary on this one, but I simply don't buy that McGann's new costume that he's been touting over the last few months is only going to be on Big Finish covers.

That bag needs to be on screen!
 
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Exterminieren said:
Your mileage may vary on this one, but I simply don't buy that McGann's new costume that he's been touting over the last few months is only going to be on Big Finish covers.

That bag needs to be on screen!
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I threw an idea in the Series 7 thread about giving the 8th Doctor a miniseries. 6 episodes, cover post-DW movie and the Time War.

Doesn't necessarily have to directly involve Moffat, since he'd be too busy with Doctor Who prime and Sherlock.
 
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Exterminieren said:
Your mileage may vary on this one, but I simply don't buy that McGann's new costume that he's been touting over the last few months is only going to be on Big Finish covers.

That bag needs to be on screen!
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Eh. That's a Big Finish thing. There's no way the BBC Wales costume department wouldn't want to do something their own, and that was all done in-house at BF. The sonic screwdriver they did for him to hold in some of the production photos (which is like halfway between the classic series one and the 2005 one) was done by WETA, as well - again, nothing to do with the BBC.

It will have passed under the noses of people at licensing and maybe Moffat himself (we know little about how his era is run, but RTD used to look at every single licensed Who product with Gardner to sign it off) and perhaps Moffat may use it if McGann does appear, but I don't think it was created as some sort of forward-thinking conspiracy, and certainly not with the BBC's involvement.

The simple fact is McGann always hated his costume and the wig from 96, and because he only ever did one 'episode' very few promotional pics of him exist for Big Finish to use on covers. They needed something new, desperately. The fact it helps to push and position him closer to New Who without breaching the line in the sand of what Big Finish can and can't touch (they can't even refer to anything after 96) is a bonus.
 
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FatboyRoberts said:
To me, the fact he keeps saying "We" and "us" and not "Me..."
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Well, he's talking that way because there's like 3 other past Doctors at the same convention, all rolling around together, all being bombarded with the same questions.

Flip side: all of them are still at that convention, in Australia, and the anniversary is already 3 weeks into a 7 week shoot.
 
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APZonerunner said:
Well, he's talking that way because there's like 3 other past Doctors at the same convention, all rolling around together, all being bombarded with the same questions.

Flip side: all of them are still at that convention, in Australia, and the anniversary is already 3 weeks into a 7 week shoot.
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That is, of course, assuming that all of the anniversary-relevant filming is taking place in that time period, and that absolutely nothing is happening between May and September. I am far, far from certain that that's the case.

I know that Matt's off to film for Gosling in May, but is part of the point of past Doctors not to split the load from the current Doctor?

For what it's worth, Billie Piper's been on holiday for the past few weeks, and we know she's involved.
 
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infiniteloop said:

Who's not in it?
- BBC have pretty much stated Christopher Eccleston will not be coming back.
- All 20th century Doctors who are still with us have stated that they have not been asked to reprise their roles.
- John Barrowman (Captain Jack) has tweeted that he is not involved in the episode.
- Freema Agyeman (Martha Jones) has said she is not in the episode.
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I hope these are ruses, because otherwise I'm pissed :mad:
 
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Exterminieren said:
That is, of course, assuming that all of the anniversary-relevant filming is taking place in that time period, and that absolutely nothing is happening between May and September. I am far, far from certain that that's the case.

I know that Matt's off to film for Gosling in May, but is part of the point of past Doctors not to split the load from the current Doctor?

For what it's worth, Billie Piper's been on holiday for the past few weeks, and we know she's involved.
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Piper's already been on set, and has gone away for, it seems, two weeks - and Tennant hasn't been seen since either, so one can just assume it's all been Matt/Jenna in that period.

There's the possibility of extra bits being filmed, but it wouldn't be more than about five minutes, like filming the secret ending to Doomsday or whatever.

The actual filming part of the production office straight up shuts down in May - that's easily enough confirmed by the fact loads of the previously publicly-advertised production contracts terminate then until they start Christmas. They don't have other shows (Torchwood, SJA) to hide additional Who production inside, either.

Prepare for disappointment, you'll be less disappointed.
 
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APZonerunner said:
Piper's already been on set, and has gone away for, it seems, two weeks - and Tennant hasn't been seen since either, so one can just assume it's all been Matt/Jenna in that period.
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Actually, we haven't seen Billie on set. A member of the production crew was mistaken for her at long distance (something similar caused a brief bit of excitement at filming for The Beast Below, IIRC), but I haven't actually seen any evidence that she has been present yet.

Someone in the know on GB said she wasn't in the country for the readthrough, either; Ingrid Oliver read her part in.
 
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Symphonic said:
Makes me think that the original script had a Eccleston -> McGann regeneration. Wonder if they'll address that at all now that Eccleston is out.
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I think you put that the wrong way around, unless you really wanted 9 regenerating back into 8, lol. It is a real damn shame about Eccleston though, you'd think someone would at least come back for such an anniversary for the fans; at this point I really wouldn't mind some sort of recasting as if he isn't going to come back for what is really the big event that he will be around for, he obviously isn't going to want to be a part of the franchise as a whole at this point.
 
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CorrisD said:
I think you put that the wrong way around, unless you really wanted 9 regenerating back into 8, lol.
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Oops, yeah. Haha.

Although that reminds me today I was thinking how big of a MIND FUCK it would be if Moffat made 11 regenerate back into 10 somehow in the anniversary special. He would have cast the next Doctor without anyone noticing. The shits that would be flipped would be glorious.
 
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Symphonic said:
Oops, yeah. Haha.

Although that reminds me today I was thinking how big of a MIND FUCK it would be if Moffat made 11 regenerate back into 10 somehow in the anniversary special. He would have cast the next Doctor without anyone noticing. The shits that would be flipped would be glorious.
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Wouldn't be the craziest thing that happened with a regeneration. Didn't Colin Baker try to choke someone...?
 
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Symphonic said:
Makes me think that the original script had a Eccleston -> McGann regeneration. Wonder if they'll address that at all now that Eccleston is out.
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Is the McGann --> Eccleston regeneration idea just wishful fan thinking or has Moffat ever suggested that's something he'd like to see? For all his talk about looking forward instead of towards the past, and the idea of a story the Doctor would tackle in different lifetimes, it doesn't seem like showing the end of the Time War and Eight turn into Nine would be something he'd be interested in doing.
 
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I'm just increasingly thinking anyone wanting anything more substantial from pre-2005 may be in for disappointment, and thus am saying temper expectations. Of them all, I'd like to see McGann most, of course.
 
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APZonerunner said:
I'm just increasingly thinking anyone wanting anything more substantial from pre-2005 may be in for disappointment, and thus am saying temper expectations. Of them all, I'd like to see McGann most, of course.
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Yeah, I get you. But for my part, I've already clarified pretty clearly that I'm not expecting anything. Expectations aren't up for any Eccleston/McGann/McCoy/Baker talk. Hell, to be honest, I think the decision to limit it to an hourlong and waste money shooting it in 3d are both really bad calls. So if there's any expectation to be had, it's an expectation that the show might end up feeling rushed and looking gimmicky.

Speculation on McGann/Eccleston is like when people bs about sports trades... most know that it wont ever go through, and they know WHY it won't go through (i.e. "yo, maybe Kobe COULD be traded to Cleveland), but the fun is in the bs'ing.
 
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APZonerunner said:
I'm just increasingly thinking anyone wanting anything more substantial from pre-2005 may be in for disappointment, and thus am saying temper expectations. Of them all, I'd like to see McGann most, of course.
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Well, I think the Zygons will be a bigger role than they've been credited for.

That aside, you may well be right.
 
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Random blog keeps hope alive!

An undisclosed source close to the Doctor Who production team indicated to us this morning that Ninth Doctor, Christopher Eccleston may well be seen in the 50th Anniversary special, despite his recent comments to the contrary, and that he could have already filmed his part...!

Eccleston has recently said that he did have a meeting with showrunner Steven Moffat about a possible involvement in the end-of-year spectacular, but came away saying he wouldn't be involved.

However, my tight-lipped source refused to confirm or deny this in a very 'I know something you don't know' manner, which is a very strong pointer towards seeing the Ninth Doctor on our screens, joining Matt Smith and David Tennant
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http://type40doctorwho.blogspot.com/2013/04/eccleston-in-50th-quite-possibly.html#.UWjGZL9hx94

BELIEVE
 
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