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[Wok]

Thats the only part I can't see getting changed. 2 seconds is already ehh in terms of duration. Less than that is just awful imo.

But also what demoli said. Time dilation aoe is HUGE

• Time Walk travel distance is 625.
• Radius of Time Dilation is 725.
• Radius of chrono is 425.

If the radius of Time Dilation were less than travel distance of Time Walk, then it would get harder to use Void to chase down an enemy honestly. In this case, the hero would have to be reworked, with Time Dilation being automatically applied to opponents inside Chrono.

 

[Shuggananas]

just let icefrog do his job

 

[Monochromaticx]

staaaaaaaaaart
the maaaaaaaain
eveeeeeeeeeeeeeeent
uuuuuuugggggggghhhhhhhh

 

[Archie]

just let icefrog do his job

He hasn't been doing that very well lately.

 

[Shuggananas]

lol game is really balanced compared to some other patches, besides a few stupid as shit spells or heroes

 

[marrec]

He hasn't been doing that very well lately.

He got 2GD a job that's pretty okay.

Edit:

I agree game seems pretty balanced right now.

 

[Imp the Dimp]

He hasn't been doing that very well lately.

Current meta seems pretty balanced, doesn't it? Although I do admit that Dota past 6.81 has not been as good. 6.77-6.81 was the golden age.

 

[Twookie]

this patch is one of the better ones honestly

 

[twobear]

icefrog has been doing fine now that he has dota imba to copy from

 

[Monochromaticx]

He hasn't been doing that very well lately.

troll post? the meta is better than ever.
The player base is now over 700k and on the raise as well

 

[Imp the Dimp]

icefrog has been doing fine now that he has dota imba to copy from

I mean I can see where that poster is coming from. 6.82 and 6.83 were the worst patches to date and 6.84 and 6.85 were almost identical with slightly altered meta heroes and lasted for like half a year or something. 6.86's changes were really good and refreshing for the most part. Personally, I can't stand playing against a very good Arc Warden player and I'm puzzled how the hero made it into the game in his current incarnation. Thank god he's mechanically not quite as easy to play as some of the previous pub stompers so his pick rate is not at annoying heights but still. Low risk high reward hero essentially.

 

[kionedrik]

I mean I can see where that poster is coming from. 6.82 and 6.83 were the worst patches to date and 6.84 and 6.85 were almost identical with slightly altered meta heroes and lasted for like half a year or something. 6.86's changes were really good and refreshing for the most part. Personally, I can't stand playing against a very good Arc Warden player and I'm puzzled how the hero made it into the game in his current incarnation. Thank god he's mechanically not quite as easy to play as some of the previous pub stompers so his pick rate is not at annoying heights but still. Low risk high reward hero essentially.

You realize you are using TB as an avatar right?

edit: I meant to bold not spoil tag it...

 

[Imp the Dimp]

OP TB was the most fun. But yeah, TB was similar in that regard.

 

[Shuggananas]

TB is still OP in pubs in some drafts
mega creeps at 15 minutes ? yes please

 

[Imp the Dimp]

Also 6.84 and 6.85 had some of the lowest viable hero pools in recent Dota history, didn't they? Pretty sure I remember a Reddit thread about the absurd number of unpicked heroes at some tournament.

 

[JawesomeJaw]

I mean there were 5 unpicked heroes at TI 5. For as crazy as the item introduction rate was this year, it is surprising that things didnt go worse, give or take a glimmer cape or aether lens.

 

[kionedrik]

whatever the number of unpicked heroes for 6.84/6.84v2 was, I'm willing to bet a lot of money 6.83 was patch with lowest picked hero pool.

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

dota is quite boring to watch for me. last time i was properly wowed by some play was thingies rubick performance at TI.

 

[Gentle Rodriguez]

I mean there were 5 unpicked heroes at TI 5. For as crazy as the item introduction rate was this year, it is surprising that things didnt go worse, give or take a glimmer cape or aether lens.

Heroes that get picked once or twice skew the stats though, a more interesting stat would be how many heroes got picked over 5 or 10 times.

 

[Twookie]

looking at datdota right now, only clinkz and lone druid weren't picked at the frankfurt major
clinkz were banned 3 times and LD was banned once if i read this correctly


that's not too shabby isn't it

 

[Wok]

dota is quite boring to watch for me. last time i was properly wowed by some play was thingies rubick performance at TI.

I am wowed by a lot of early plays. The addition of faerie fire is the best to go for (or to punish) early tower dives. Pros are quite good at baiting the kills, or going for it.

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

To be fair not watched competitive dota properly since then.

But his rubick performance was just insane.

 

[Eleuin]

Lets go back to the days of tusk snowball with huskar jumping out after

 

[misses bull]

Lets make techies good again

Make dota great again

 

[1.09]

lets go back to the days of dumb chinks going phase mom aquila jugg and running over ur entire team xd

and then troll goes wrrrrrrrrrrrr
and axe goes kyaaahhh
and ur base dies

xd xd xd xd

fuck u

 

[Quesa]

Lets go back to the days of tusk snowball with Techies popping you with a mine after

.

 

[Shuggananas]

lets go back to the days of dumb chinks going phase mom aquila jugg and running over ur entire team xd

and then troll goes wrrrrrrrrrrrr
and axe goes kyaaahhh
and ur base dies

xd xd xd xd

fuck u

huh

 

[inkls]

Lets make techies good again

Make dota great again

BibleTrump

 

[Imp the Dimp]

Lets make techies good again

Make dota great again

Techies single-handedly made Dota a 2/10 would never play again game. Absolutely dreadful. We took turns in our stack abandoning games when that piece of shit got picked by the enemy team. Life is way too short for that rubbish.

 

[Twookie]

Lets make techies good again

Make dota great again

music to my ears

 

[Monochromaticx]

fuck techies. nerf him again. piece of shit hero

 

[misses bull]

Techies single-handedly made Dota a 2/10 would never play again game. Absolutely dreadful. We took turns in our stack abandoning games when that piece of shit got picked by the enemy team. Life is way too short for that rubbish.

I rather play against 6.84 techies than 6.80 terrorblade again

 

[marrec]

Make techies a fun hero to play with/against in pubs, that's my only plea. If you can't make techies good without making him dreadful to play against then throw him into the dumpster forever.

 

[Imp the Dimp]

I rather play against 6.84 techies than 6.80 terrorblade again

Lmao I didn't realize TB caused PTSD this severe. It's been a while bro, let go. Techies was easily the more miserable of the two heroes; how is that even a contest?

 

[inkls]

There is no such hero that is "fun to play against"

Like seriously, how can you enjoy facing a hero unless you're winning or destroying them? Like, what heroes are fun vs in dota?

 

[twobear]

Make techies a fun hero to play with/against in pubs, that's my only plea. If you can't make techies good without making him dreadful to play against then throw him into the dumpster forever.

i think some heroes just aren't fun to play against tbh...i think the game is actually better for the majority when they're not good picks. techies is probably one of those heroes. he's really fun to play as but nobody else in the game is having fun.

 

[Imp the Dimp]

There is no such hero that is "fun to play against"

Like seriously, how can you enjoy facing a hero unless you're winning or destroying them? Like, what heroes are fun vs in dota?

Techies wasn't fun against even when you were winning wide. He delayed every game and wasted everyone's time. I see why there are heroes like that (good base defenders like Tinker, Sniper etc.) but Techies in 6.84 (I think?) was unreasonably good at that. Also he killed all early game aggression and roaming. CDEC had to ban him every game against EG because there wasn't shit you could do about it and CDEC's game plan was all about early game dominance.

 

[inkls]

Techies wasn't fun against even when you were winning wide. He delayed every game and wasted everyone's time. I see why there are heroes like that (good base defenders like Tinker, Sniper etc.) but Techies in 6.84 (I think?) was unreasonably good at that. Also he killed all early game aggression and roaming. CDEC had to ban him every game against EG because there wasn't shit you could do about it and CDEC's game plan was all about early game dominance.

again, what heroes are fun to play vs in dota in general?

 

[misses bull]

Lmao I didn't realize TB caused PTSD this severe. It's been a while bro, let go. Techies was easily the more miserable of the two heroes; how is that even a contest?

I didn't get ptsd against techies cause I knew how to play against him

 

[twobear]

There is no such hero that is "fun to play against"

Like seriously, how can you enjoy facing a hero unless you're winning or destroying them? Like, what heroes are fun vs in dota?

there might not be heroes that are fun to against per se, but there are definitely heroes that just make the game a misery.

in the mtg community they're very happy to talk about cards or decks that are just not fun to play against, should never have been printed, etc. i think the concept is true in dota as well.

 

[Shuggananas]

I miss sniper

 

[inkls]

there might not be heroes that are fun to against per se, but there are definitely heroes that just make the game a misery.

in the mtg community they're very happy to talk about cards or decks that are just not fun to play against, should never have been printed, etc. i think the concept is true in dota as well.

then don't use that phrasing lol.

saying that a hero is not fun to play against means nothing when there's no hero that is fun to play against unless you're destroying them

 

[Imp the Dimp]

I didn't get ptsd against techies cause I knew how to play against him

Shoulda given CDEC some advice in the TI final then. They had to waste a ban on that POS which freed up EG's draft.

 

[twobear]

then don't use that phrasing lol.

saying that a hero is not fun to play against means nothing when there's no hero that is fun to play against unless you're destroying them

you've never had fun in a game of dota unless you've won tho?

 

[Shuggananas]

You think techies is bad but naga is the one true cancer in this game

 

[inkls]

you've never had fun in a game of dota unless you've won tho?

I had fun with some loses, but it wasn't because of the heroes, it was because of the players.

 

[marrec]

then don't use that phrasing lol.

saying that a hero is not fun to play against means nothing when there's no hero that is fun to play against unless you're destroying them

It's pedantic, but I think most DOTA heroes are fun to strategize against even if you're getting trashed. What makes Techies stand out (when he's good) is that he changes the basic flow of the game too much. It's fundamentally different from a fat pudge or fat sven.

 

[twobear]

I had fun with some loses, but it wasn't because of the heroes, it was because of the players.

okay how about putting it this way

some heroes stop me from having fun with my hero

 

[Gentle Rodriguez]

I had fun with some loses, but it wasn't because of the heroes, it was because of the players.

Some heroes reduce the overall fun level of the game regardless of the outcome.

 

[Wok]

again, what heroes are fun to play vs in dota in general?

Rubick.