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Dota 2 |OT13| 6.86, our Pit Lord and savior
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Shuggananas
Banned
nintendo direct tomorrow
huh
it's gonna be nothing, just like the pokeman one
huh
it's gonna be nothing, just like the pokeman one
people are even happier with free stuff
Monochromaticx
Member
These "no more tournaments in China" posts are hilarious. People really eating into the narrative that you can't find a competent group of people to run a tournament in a country of 1.3 billion people, in which many other international, large-scale events are held constantly and without issue.
God forbid the problem might lie a little higher up in the food chain. You know, the company and individuals who are in charge of hiring, overseeing, and properly compensating the boots on the ground staff.
God forbid the problem might lie a little higher up in the food chain. You know, the company and individuals who are in charge of hiring, overseeing, and properly compensating the boots on the ground staff.
Wok
Member
You cannot cancel a major without giving something away as a commercial move.
If problems are not fixed tomorrow, Valve should do something.
I read it has to do with the Chinese mentality of "whatever money is not spent can be pocketed by the organizers". I don't know whether it is true.
Wok
Member
Games can be watched without any caster' voices. So it is free, but it is not worth it with the bad audio, lagging video, and hour-long delays.
At this point, I would rather watch the summaries by NoobFromUA.
Another reason its shit. Nahaz is great.
Don't think that's really a Chinese exclusive thing. They do that in Japan too. Overcharge like crazy for entry fees, go as cheap as possible on expenses and pocket the difference.
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
no mate.
valve sell you games for cheap and they have a client that is barely competent.
they truly are gods amongst men.
they made half life as well mate, that means theyre immune from any criticism.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
Pretty much, DAC was completely fine. I'm sure this country blaming wouldn't have been happening if this event was held in the US or Western Europe.
edit: Nahaz is terrible
Shuggananas
Banned
chinese tournaments are infamous for disastrous production though, this is not the first time
Wok
Member
Do not make statements such as "i'm sure blah if blah". We are not talking about ifs here. We are talking about unwatchable games in a major event which is supposed to bring Dota2 and e-sport as a whole closer to a sport in the view of the public.
This is a big mess and this happens in China. Coincidence? Maybe.
What we get is just shame. I am not going to talk about e-sport to non-gamers, or Dota2 tournaments to LoL gamers... for the next months until we get a proper tournament.
It can become one.
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
What has LoL tournaments done wrong?
serious question.
serious question.
neurosisxeno
Member
So apparently different players and casters are getting really pissed off and taking to Twitter. Seen ODPixel, Swindle, Puppey, and Bonnie (not sure who that is) all complaining that things behind the scenes are even worse than expected.
If I remember correctly, Frankfurt was under heavy fire in the beginning due to the lack of public, which was completely understandable due to the time and day of the week. On the technical side of things I don't remember any problem, neither do I recall any delays.
One thing is for certain, Malaysia's major will determine if we'll have this competitive format next year.
Monochromaticx
Member
enigma on dire side is so strong
it'll be better than the shanghai major tho
neurosisxeno
Member
He's the worst TH I've ever seen in a pro match.
Phantom assassin made tranquil boots.......... I told her "traquil boots really?" and he answered "idiot first time playing pa" like its my fault for him not playing pa again and if you haven't played a hero again can't you just follow the dota suggested items? I doubt they suggest fucking tranquil boots for pa.
Shuggananas
Banned
seriously this happens so fucking often in AR
"it's my first time playing XDDD"
yeah that doesn't excuse getting fucking phase boots on kotl
call_kotaku
Member
didn't they have that disastrous finals a couple of years ago?
whichever one had the casters work for like 16 hours straight and had those images of players turning around to look at the minimap on the big screen
manfestival
Member
ITS A DIRTY GAME GabeN ITS A PERFECT WORLD GabeN I KICKED 2GD LIKE A PREGNANT GIRL GabeN AIN'T NO TELLIN WHAT I DO WITH MY PAPER GabeN AND WHEN IT COMES TO FIRING HOSTS GabeN I GOT A MAJOR GabeN
neurosisxeno
Member
Weren't there also a few events with clear examples of match fixing? Or at the very least quite a few examples of teams not even bothering to try in matches that weren't that important?
Imp the Dimp
Member
I had some 2k scrub ass Skywrath mid against me yesterday who would always leave the lane 5-10 seconds before the runes spawned and wait at the top rune to take it lmao. I don't know why that shit triggers me like it does but I honestly can't handle rune campers who skip creep waves of experience and last hits. It's so inefficient unless you get a super good rune that you can immediately turn into a kill or kills. Such a low percentage play.
Obviously, Sky has few means to push the wave but this guy didn't even try. Absolute dreadful.
Obviously, Sky has few means to push the wave but this guy didn't even try. Absolute dreadful.
manfestival
Member
that crowd though
neurosisxeno
Member
That intro was probably the worst think I've ever watched. Awkwardly walking out with crazy lighting, and then those horrible intro videos...
Shuggananas
Banned
puppey should be fired too
Everybody's fucking fired. I'm sure Valve is working on building a crew of Japanese Android Newscasters to run and host the next LAN.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45PgwV6dlLs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45PgwV6dlLs
call_kotaku
Member
I'm actually having a hard time thinking of a more disastrous live event in esports
the worst viewing experience I had was MLG Dallas way back when, but I can't think of an event as consistently bad as this one
the worst viewing experience I had was MLG Dallas way back when, but I can't think of an event as consistently bad as this one
neurosisxeno
Member
They just don't even care anymore.
Also; http://www.sbnation.com/2016/3/2/11...orts-lost-keyboard-soundproof-booths-problems
Shuggananas
Banned
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
quite a while
and theyve held huge tournaments around the world.
edit: im not saying thats the be all and end all,
just that feel its harsh, at this point, to put LoLs production in the same category as Valve's?
Of course can change if there has been awful tournaments.
Imp the Dimp
Member
I have to agree with this. I find some of the community's reaction insulting and I'm not sure why people harp so much on the country this tournament is failing in. A lot of stereotypization going on and frankly it's embarrassing. I've been to Shanghai a month ago and experienced very well organised events and past Chinese Dota tournaments weren't so bad either, think DAC. I don't see people slamming the US or any European country for shitting up tournaments but they rather direct their hate towards the production studio which is fair enough. Not sure why China can't get the same treatment.
all valve needs to do is have the government organize the next chinese major!
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