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Dota 2 |OT13| 6.86, our Pit Lord and savior

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Shuggananas

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reminder to buy aghs first on pugna and be a useless piece of shit and die in two shots
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Imp the Dimp

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Randomed Tusk yesterday and sucked with him. I don't like him at all and he is no fun whatsoever. I contributed nothing meaningful to our win.
 
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kionedrik

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Quesa said:
Missed it since I'm working. Can someone get me an Oddshot?
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Earth spirit turned gyro to stone near bot T4 and kicked him past the ancient near the entrance to the fountain. Then Venge swapped him in and stunned and DS had to expend vaccum to keep him in. All this while he was regening from satanic.

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M.D

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It's a targeted aoe spell with a huge ass cooldown that's not only reliant on you hitting it but also depends very much on your position in the game and your available items

It honestly doesn't make sense to me when I look at the consistency with other heroes with AOE ultimates and compare them to OD
 
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aeolist

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M.D said:
It's a targeted aoe spell with a huge ass cooldown that's not only reliant on you hitting it but also depends very much on your position in the game and your available items

It honestly doesn't make sense to me when I look at the consistency with other heroes with AOE ultimates and compare them to OD
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yeah ravage should go thru bkb too
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balance comes first, sensibility should be a distant second
 
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M.D

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aeolist said:
yeah ravage should go thru bkb too
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balance comes first, sensibility should be a distant second
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I never said that, and there's a huge difference with how ravage and OD ult work and what they're used for, not to mention their radius. Which is why spells like blackhole do go through BKB, if you want to compare actual AOE ults that are used for disable but work very differently.
 
Wok

Wok

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Quesa said:
He can't pull heroes period until he gets aghs.
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Jay Shadow said:
Pulling teammates isn't possible without Aghs. that has nothing to do with this. But he needed Aghs for this. And a swap. And a vacuum.
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What? Do you mean he can only pull stones as long as he does not have aghs?

Edit: Okay, I thought the change was different. I wrongly thought the change was a nerf to Aghs, in fact, it is a nerf to Pull without Aghs.



AGHA CORE ON EARTH SPIRIT NOW!
 
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Hylian7

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Wok said:
What? Do you mean he can only pull stones as long as he does not have aghs?

Edit: Okay, I thought the change was different. I wrongly thought the change was a nerf to Aghs, in fact, it is a nerf to Pull without Aghs.



AGHA CORE ON EARTH SPIRIT NOW!
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Why wouldn't it be? Aghs turns them into a normal rock that you can kick and pull like any other rock. When I play ES I do that all the time when they are trying to push high ground against us (usually don't get them all the way to fountain though, but getting them uphill in a bad spot is enough).

It is technically a nerf. You could always pull allied heroes with Geomagnetic Grip no matter what, however the distance and speed were slower than a normal rock. With Aghs, that gets you back to this state, but pulling them as a rock is always better.
 
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Wok

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Hylian7 said:
Why wouldn't it be? Aghs turns them into a normal rock that you can kick and pull like any other rock. When I play ES I do that all the time when they are trying to push high ground against us (usually don't get them all the way to fountain though, but getting them uphill in a bad spot is enough).

It is technically a nerf. You could always pull allied heroes with Geomagnetic Grip no matter what, however the distance and speed were slower than a normal rock. With Aghs, that gets you back to this state, but pulling them as a rock is always better.
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I thought removing the possibility to send opponents into the fountain was one of the necessary nerfs before allowing ES into CM. I thought IceFrog made him the perfect support to save allies with grip. In fact, it is the opposite: no way to save before Aghs except by rolling or pushing, and once the aghs is online, everything back to normal.
 
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Hylian7

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Wok said:
I thought removing the possibility to send opponents into the fountain was one of the necessary nerfs before allowing ES into CM. I thought IceFrog made him the perfect support to save allies with grip. In fact, it is the opposite: no way to save before Aghs except by rolling or pushing, and once the aghs is online, everything back to normal.
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Right, but getting someone into fountain isn't exactly easy. I mean it's like being Pudge hooking into fountain at that point.

Enchant Remnant only lasts 3 seconds. It's going to be a rare occurance seeing pros get someone in their fountain with it.
 
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G.ZZZ

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LMAO this BTS game has DS walking around with a light from the heavens above him and fire all around him i'm dead

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