Nickolaidas
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That was ten years ago, by a different Bioware (which was already decaying, but whatever).
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Dragon Age: Veilguard releases with over 70k concurrent players on Steam and 'Mixed Reviews'
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Topher
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Yeah, but it is still a Dragon Age game. Estimating a Dragon Age game to sell half of what Inquisition did seems fairly conservative, imo.
YuLY
Member
We actually have those numbers. Epler had an interview yesterday in Eurogamer and was talking about a potential Dragon Age collection like we had with Mass Effect, but he mentioned that DAO and DA2 were on other engines not frostbite like Inquisition and he literally says he is maybe 1 of 20 people still at Bioware that have any experience with Eclipse engine. So there you have it, like 20 ppl still left. Basically Bioware in name only.
Hawk The Slayer
Member
Nice!80k!!!!
Now they just need to get 3x the amount 240k ccp to be passable or 4x the amount 360k ccp to be a good amount. Still tonight and one more day to go!
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
it'll do those numbers on the ProgressiveStation 5 alone
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StereoVsn
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Would it be Progressive Station 5 Peasant Edition or Progressive Station 5 1%?
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
Continuing to peak higher and higher every day since launch:
"Mostly Positive" reviews on Steam as well. Sounds like a bonafide hit. Glad to see Bioware still has the goods.
"Mostly Positive" reviews on Steam as well. Sounds like a bonafide hit. Glad to see Bioware still has the goods.
Wildebeest
Member
Seems like a lot of us here were way too bullish about how well it would do. I guess we just wait to see if EA reacts or says anything at all.
clarky
Gold Member
Peaking higher and higher lol.Continuing to peak higher and higher every day since launch:
"Mostly Positive" reviews on Steam as well. Sounds like a bonafide hit. Glad to see Bioware still has the goods.
Look at it go, its unstoppable. It might peak higher at 86k tomorrow.
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ValiantInstance
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Continuing to peak higher and higher every day since launch:
"Mostly Positive" reviews on Steam as well. Sounds like a bonafide hit. Glad to see Bioware still has the goods.
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
clarky
Gold Member
No skin in this game, I just found the spin humorous.
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Hawk The Slayer
Member
Today and Sunday are prime weekend days compared to Friday so it still has a good chance to go into the passable range of around 240k ccp tonight! And maybe a chance to go up to around 350k ccp tomorrow which would be considered a good ccp for a game of this scale, budget, and popularity!
Raven117
Member
Lol. Great troll.Continuing to peak higher and higher every day since launch:
"Mostly Positive" reviews on Steam as well. Sounds like a bonafide hit. Glad to see Bioware still has the goods.
These numbers suck. EA wasn’t thinking or funding this for 10 years to have sales less than Inquisition.
This is a fraction of what they need to even recoup costs let alone… turn a profit.
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clarky
Gold Member
Record engagement tweets incoming.
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
Still not sure how stating a fact about the player count of the game is a "spin"
Jaybe
Member
Here's the opposite of some of the idiotic anti-woke crap we've got in this forum about this game:
They want this game to be a success just to 'stick it to the right wing culture war idiots'.
Hilarious they reference Cyberpunk 2077 as a big time queer friendly hit when that forum has it banned for transphobia from any new posts being made.
Guilty_AI
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ShaiKhulud1989
Gold Member
Yet user reviews are sliding down (from 80 to 75) because people kinda see that initial 3-5 hours is basically the whole game, including the godawful writing, character assassination and the cold-blooded murder of a setting. Plus I think 85k for a mainstream RPG like Dragon Age is just weak.Continuing to peak higher and higher every day since launch:
"Mostly Positive" reviews on Steam as well. Sounds like a bonafide hit. Glad to see Bioware still has the goods.
And no, the whole 'woke' stuff is the least of the game's problems. I think Dunkey sumed up the main issue very neatly without any clickbait.
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clarky
Gold Member
Because saying "peaking higher and higher," while factually correct, it is, in reality, pretty much flat. It sounds like something a politician would say. I was expecting the CCU to double at least over the weekend figuring people have more time to play etc.
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Mister Wolf
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Yeah i don't get the chest pounding. Its lower than Kingdom Come a single player action RPG made by an indie developer. Lower than it's peers Dragon Age 2 and BG3 by a significant margin. It's likely to match Metaphor. A game with the visuals of a PS3 game that likely cost a fraction of Veilguard's development budget to create.
ShaiKhulud1989
Gold Member
A game where Atlus audience is traditionally on PS5/PS4 too.
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
Not sure why you'd expect that. That's not what you typically see with new game releases on Steam. But yes it will likely peak Sunday afternoon, likely around 100k.
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Zathalus
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Man if people think BioWare is in trouble with those numbers then Atlus must be about to close any day now. Metaphor did similar launch numbers and that game has been in development for almost 8 years. And no, I doubt Metaphor was significantly cheaper to make, it is also a massive RPG made by a studio larger then BioWare.
GHG
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Hawk The Slayer
Member
Not surprised from a forum where 95% of it's users think the craziest and most mentally insane things are considered normal so reasonable thinking aren't their strong suit.
clarky
Gold Member
This game released on a Thursday afternoon with no preload. I'd expect a lot more people to be playing on a Friday night than the release night.
I'd also expect a Dragon Age game to launch with lot bigger numbers considering what the last entry sold, thats why I expected it to rise significantly over the weekend.
EA can't be happy with the performance so far.
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RodriGames40
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Japanese studio that made a game in a feasible timeframe that also didn't cost a fraction of this game just in its development alone let alone have any motion capture... Yeah, this take is fantasy, literally.
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Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Massive game in terms of playtime, but manageable scope, visuals, and overall presentation. There's a lot of efficiency in how Metaphor uses its assets. It probably cost 1/5 of what a game like Dragon Age does. Possibly less.
Atlus released how many games in this timeframe?
Mister Wolf
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analog_future
Resident Crybaby
Can't say I agree at all, but you do you
Topher
Identifies as young
The starting player count was incredibly low for a game like this. Dragon's Dogma 2 was at 200k the first day.
I don't think Bioware is in trouble at all, but Dragon Age should have launched with player count twice as high as Metaphor.
You wrote:
" Sounds like a bonafide hit. Glad to see Bioware still has the goods."
Seems far away from fact ATM.
Guilty_AI
Member
You need to account for the EA factor
clarky
Gold Member
"I'll do me" What does that even mean?
Im sorry for having a discussion I suppose.
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GHG
Member
You're able to look up wage and employee costs no?
That's more than double what the average game dev earns in Tokyo.
Then there are the additional costs of employment, which typically run up to an additional 30% in the west, whereas in asia/the middle east it's around 10-15%. I've had to run those numbers personally BTW, less than a year ago. All that "protection" employees get in the west, it doesn't come free.
FunkMiller
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This is rather like saying Terrifier 3 was a box office failure because Joker 2 made more money.
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
Didn't mean anything by it, just shorthand for "I disagree but you're entitled to your opinion".
Topher
Identifies as young
Fully aware. I just don't think Bioware is in danger of getting shut down because of this. Now if we get reports from Circana and GSD that the game tanked completely then I'll change my tune.
Plague Doctor
Member
It's unfair to compare a AAA powerhouse like :Larian with a new indie dev like Bioware.
Topher
Identifies as young
I love Metaphor but it is not a game that is going to appeal to a broad audience like a Dragon Age game should.
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Zathalus
Member
I did, I came away with very different numbers then you did.You're able to look up wage and employee costs no?
That's more than double what the average game dev earns in Tokyo.
Then there are the additional costs of employment, which typically run up to an additional 30% in the west, whereas in asia/the middle east it's around 10-15%. I've had to run those numbers personally BTW, less than a year ago. All that "protection" employees get in the west, it doesn't come free.
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DonkeyPunchJr
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Inquisition sold 12 million copies and was BioWare’s most successful game.
EA didn’t spend 10 years developing (and rebooting) Veilguard aiming for Metaphor-like sales #s. They wanted to hang with the big boys like CDPR, Bethesda, From, and Larian.
I don’t think EA will euthanize BioWare yet. They will keep BioWare around in some shape or form until they have extracted every last bit of value they can from that brand name. But I definitely wouldn’t be surprised if we see further layoffs, restructuring, new management, etc.
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