EU retailers: Several retailers no longer stocking physical games as Xbox is such a digital platform

Are digital ratios high in Europe for Xbox?

I mean, their games don't chart even if you include physical + digital charts, I understand Dring always states that MS digital ratios are high, but without any numbers from MS itself it's difficult to tell how bad (or decent) the situation is for Xbox games sales.
 
It's a very weird choice from MS to withdraw from physical so completely. They will lose even more brand awareness and they already have a problem in that area.
 
Spyxos said:
Great, why do I have the Series X? Somehow there's only negative news about this console every day.
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You could have seen this coming for some time. I ditched my XSX is sept last year. Best thing I have done. The shitty way of managing the Xbox brand has been going on for to long.
 
DirtyBast8rd said:
You could have seen this coming for some time. I ditched my XSX is sept last year. Best thing I have done. The shitty way of managing the Xbox brand has been going on for to long.
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My XSX is Xbox OG and 369 BC machine and it does pretty great at that.
 
analog_future said:
Digital games are the future whether we like it or not.


Playstation physical is selling way better, of course, but you're putting your blinders on if you don't see that they're prepping for an all-digital future as well.
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There is a difference between knowing its coming and forcing it. They have pushing it hard since the xbox one. It's still healthy everywhere but xbox.
 
NEbeast said:
There is a difference between knowing its coming and forcing it. They have pushing it hard since the xbox one. It's still healthy everywhere but xbox.
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It's not healthy on Xbox because of Xbox's general failings as a platform holder. Xbox is going digital NOW because they have no other option, as highlighted in this very thread, but all platform holders will go all digital sooner or later.
 
In before MS apologies say this is what MS wants anyways. Ops, too late.

No, it's not buy choice, it's by force. They have 2 consoles, 1 digital-only console, and the Series X. They have been given the boot by the retailers prematurely given the low sales and those things are collecting dust.

Next, the retailers will give the boot to the XBS consoles as well. No use stocking those unwanted consoles that don't sell software.
 
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I wonder how much not having physical editions of the games affect the overall visibility of the brand to more casual gamers. I think its quite a lot. Strange decision to go all digital at this part of the gen (which seems to be Xboxs aim). We're now a few years into the generation, most potential sales will come from the less hardcore and more casual gamers. Maybe they've just given up at this point.
 
analog_future said:
It's not healthy on Xbox because of Xbox's general failings as a platform holder. Xbox is going digital NOW because they have no other option, as highlighted in this very thread, but all platform holders will go all digital sooner or later.
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It's not healthy because that's the way xbox wants it.
 
If the only choice for physical will be PlayStation and Nintendo,then I guess that's what people will choose.....more money in their pockets I guess.
 
About time. I probably bought 3 physical games last gen and this one not even single one. So meh, let consoles finally catch the Steam
 
Heisenberg007 said:
They will not. At least not until they have gone full third-party.

Their finances will not allow it.
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I think because the gaming division is failing so spectacularly we forget that the parent company is the richest in the world by market cap. In short, if Nadela is on board...
 
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Pelta88 said:
I think because the gaming division is failing so spectacularly we forget that the parent company is the richest in the world by market cap. In short, if Nadela is on board...
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No, we don't forget because we are constantly being reminded of how rich Xbox Microsoft is. The recent moves indicates Nadela/board are starting to want to see some returns on these investments in Xbox division.
 
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When one goes more will follow. Just look at the price increase for consoles and games. Sony did it and all the fans said PlayStation was doomed.........
 
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reinking said:
No, we don't forget because we are constantly being reminded of how rich Xbox Microsoft is. The recent moves indicates Nadela/board are starting to want to see some returns on these investments in Xbox division.
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This.

The documents Microsoft had to hand over about the true state of the XBOX division seem to have been forgotten. They have targets, projections and yes, hardware sales, that the company expects them to meet. I have no doubt that Nadela is pushing for a non exclusive publishing division. The recent financial report follow a long list of Q reports that are abysmal.
 
analog_future said:
Digital games are the future whether we like it or not.


Playstation physical is selling way better, of course, but you're putting your blinders on if you don't see that they're prepping for an all-digital future as well.
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0 chance on PS6 going all digital. Maybe you should take your fanboy blinders off.
 
analog_future said:
I play games on all systems and The Last of Us Part II is my favorite game of all time

the fuck you talking about
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I do agree I think it is the future. I also think it's a mistake for xbox to have all their stuff removed from stores while their hardware sales are cratering. They are going this route to soon and at the worst time.
 
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mayham2199 said:
I do agree I think it is the future. I also think it's a mistake for xbox to have all their stuff removed from stores while their hardware sales are cratering. They are going this route to soon and at the worst time.
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But this very thread is about the fact that it's not a Microsoft decision. It's a retailer decision because they can't justify stocking physical Xbox games in their stores anymore due to low sales.

That doesn't mean this isn't Microsoft's fault; it IS their fault due to a plethora of missteps. But It doesn't appear to be an intentional decision they're making, but rather a pivot they're forced to perform because of abysmal physical sales.
 
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analog_future said:
But this very thread is about the fact that it's not a Microsoft decision. It's a retailer decision because they can't justify stocking physical Xbox games in their stores anymore due to low sales.

That doesn't mean this isn't Microsoft's fault; it IS their fault due to a plethora of missteps. But It doesn't appear to be an intentional decision they're making, but rather a pivot they're forced to perform because of abysmal physical sales.
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Getting rid\destroying all starfield physical copies is a decision they are making. Releasing their games digital only is a decision they are making. They purposely created this situation.
 
CloudShiner said:
so physical is the future? :messenger_grinning_smiling:
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Just let them buy all discs. It doesn't matter in the end. Either the discs will stay, which is fine with me. Or they will go, and they will have no backwards compatible library. Also fine with me. PS6 with or without a disc drive doesn't impact anyone but disc buyers. So, their issue to worry about really.
 
mayham2199 said:
Getting rid\destroying all starfield physical copies is a decision they are making. Releasing their games digital only is a decision they are making. They purposely created this situation.
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Again, a pivot they're forced to perform because of abysmal physical sales.

Their decisions have led them to this point, but if you don't think they wished their software sales (both physical AND digital) were exponentially higher, you're kidding yourself. Of course they'd kill to be moving copies at the rate that Sony and Nintendo do.
 
Sony is slowly also to digital games only and while it may not seem customer friendly, it absolutely makes sense for their business. Here in Japan all the big chains also have used games, so people rarely buy new games and that is really bad for the gaming business.

I must admit I am doing the same thing often, buying a used game for around 30-40 USD, then finish it and sell it for around the same price. Of course good for gamers, but the manufacturers cannot survive like this with increasing development costs.
 
analog_future said:
Digital games are the future whether we like it or not.


Playstation physical is selling way better, of course, but you're putting your blinders on if you don't see that they're prepping for an all-digital future as well.
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For real people think sony or nintendo don't want all digital to control ervything and get a bigger cut. Smh they just haven't figured out how to implement it without getting people pissed like ms.
 
CityHunter1981 said:
Sony is slowly also to digital games only and while it may not seem customer friendly, it absolutely makes sense for their business. Here in Japan all the big chains also have used games, so people rarely buy new games and that is really bad for the gaming business.

I must admit I am doing the same thing often, buying a used game for around 30-40 USD, then finish it and sell it for around the same price. Of course good for gamers, but the manufacturers cannot survive like this with increasing development costs.
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Used games stores are good for business. It's not a net bad thing at all.
 
If you think Sonys not going all digital next gen you're crazy. It's the future for all of them. That and their cloud systems if you want physical it will be an extra cost

Microsoft has nothing to lose now just get it out there and in 2 years when your next system comes out it's the norm.
 
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Dorfdad said:
If you think Sonys not going all digital next gen you're crazy. It's the future for all of them. That and their cloud systems if you want physical it will be an extra cost

Microsoft has nothing to lose now just get it out there and in 2 years when your next system comes out it's the norm.
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Not a chance.

Maybe next-next-gen.
 
Dorfdad said:
If you think Sonys not going all digital next gen you're crazy. It's the future for all of them. That and their cloud systems if you want physical it will be an extra cost

Microsoft has nothing to lose now just get it out there and in 2 years when your next system comes out it's the norm.
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Stop the Sony Too BS

You haven't seen anything that indicates that PlayStation will be going digital only next Gen.
 
If you think Sonys not going all digital next gen you're
onQ123 said:
Stop the Sony Too BS

You haven't seen anything that indicates that PlayStation will be going digital only next Gen.
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The removal of the HD and added as an add on is t a step in that direction? Can easily see them releasing digital only for launch with an additional purchased physical media attachment if you desire. Everything is going digital. Physical sales are dwindling now stores are removing physical media from shelves and you don't think that in 3 years this won't just be the norm?
 
mckmas8808 said:
Used games stores are good for business. It's not a net bad thing at all.
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Sony / Nintendo / Microsoft don't see one cent of used game profits, they hate it actually. This is what's driving them to digital platforms and streaming.

None of them care what's good for third party resellers or gamestops etc. they want you to purchase your games from them as it brings them revenue
 
Dorfdad said:
If you think Sonys not going all digital next gen you're


The removal of the HD and added as an add on is t a step in that direction? Can easily see them releasing digital only for launch with an additional purchased physical media attachment if you desire. Everything is going digital. Physical sales are dwindling now stores are removing physical media from shelves and you don't think that in 3 years this won't just be the norm?
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What you just said is not digital only SMH.

If it's all digital how can they even sell you a add on drive?
 
Miss the days when I had to be reminded every 10/15 posts on any thread how gamepass is the best deal in gaming... I wonder what happened lately :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 
onQ123 said:
What you just said is not digital only SMH.

If it's all digital how can they even sell you a add on drive?
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All new games would be digital but you can still opt for the drive to play older games or movies. It isn't mutually exclusive.
 
CityHunter1981 said:
Good for the consumer and shop for sure, but bad for Sony / Microsoft. They loose with every sold used game basically 1 potential customer.
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Dorfdad said:
Sony / Nintendo / Microsoft don't see one cent of used game profits, they hate it actually. This is what's driving them to digital platforms and streaming.

None of them care what's good for third party resellers or gamestops etc. they want you to purchase your games from them as it brings them revenue
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You guys aren't seeing the full picture with the used games market. For some people (not me at all), they only have but so much money to spend on games. So they buy a game new at some point and sell it to a Gamestop and make 50% of the cost back. They then take that 50% cost and buy another new game. They keep flipping their games that they finish, in order to purchase the next game. So that money is going to Sony, Nintendo, and MS.

Then there's the other guy on the other end "BUYING" the used game. He's ONLY buying these games because it's in his price range. He wants to buy games for $40 or less and the games aren't going on sale fast enough. So he buys them used. Yes, you two are 100%% correct that the publishers don't get any of these person's money at first. But they will if the game has any DLC of any kind.

The only way around this is.....

1. Drop the cost of your game faster
2. Sell it for less at launch
3. Go digital only

All three of those ways will lead to less money on some level. But with having physical versions, there's more upside than going digital only. Digital only means you are cutting a decent percentage of people from purchasing the game right off the bat. And why do that? Is it really worth it?
 
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