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FANT4STIC 4OUR |OT| Fantastic 4/10
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AmaterasuOni
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There's lots of "magic" in the movie. That is magic.
I'm sorry, I can't find the original source, but there's a french article that talks about a reddit message supposedly posted by Trank. He explains the whole situation with some new details.
http://www.ecranlarge.com/films/new...-et-accuse-le-studio-d-avoir-pietine-son-film
It can be fake, I don't know, I've searched reddit without success (I'm not used to this website).
http://www.ecranlarge.com/films/new...-et-accuse-le-studio-d-avoir-pietine-son-film
It can be fake, I don't know, I've searched reddit without success (I'm not used to this website).
That reeks of bullshit but have you found any English articles about it? Not sure about some French website.
Hope we get to hear what Trank's cut was going to be, how that was shaping up. I get the feeling that he set out to make a film that differed a fair bit from the classic cannon and slowly but steadily Fox worried about the reaction and started interfering.
I'm not assuming Trank's version would have been a classic but I'd rather get the pure vision vs something mangled by interference.
Studios need to decide whether to go safe (stick to cannon for the most part) or pass on creative control and let the film be what it will. Frankly they also need to ignore internet reaction if they chose the latter. What people want/think doesn't come into it then. It's all about what the creative team making the damn film want to produce.
I guess over time more info will creep out (it always does).
I'm not assuming Trank's version would have been a classic but I'd rather get the pure vision vs something mangled by interference.
Studios need to decide whether to go safe (stick to cannon for the most part) or pass on creative control and let the film be what it will. Frankly they also need to ignore internet reaction if they chose the latter. What people want/think doesn't come into it then. It's all about what the creative team making the damn film want to produce.
I guess over time more info will creep out (it always does).
The french site is kind of serious but sometimes they related fake articles without knowing it. But unfortunately I didn't find their sources (they don't link them wich annoys me every time). Still searching.
ScreenSplitter
Member
"We are committed to our Marvel universe"
Oh don't be stubborn love.
Oh don't be stubborn love.
TrumanBurbank
Member
Just think for a second, Bryan Singer and Matthew Vaughn made amazing superhero films with FOX. They are the true heroes.
Gordon Shumway
Banned
It certainly isn't science..
Yep, whenever someone says a decent Fantastic Four movie is impossible just remember that Pixar already made it
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
I've done it a few times when there were projector or sound issues, and one time due to a bunch of teens who ruined it for everyone, but never because a movie was so incredibly bad that I felt cheated, lol. Every time I've gotten free passes out of it.
I worked at a theater as a teenager, it happened all the time. They would usually get turned down because disliking a movie isn't grounds for a refund.
The smart ones complain about the lights, or someone talking the whole time, or that the picture was out of focus. Boom. Free passes.
birthday-suit
Banned
First Class was not amazing.
True, it sucked. And X1 and X2 are overrated.
Thanks, I looked for a bit too and couldn't find anything. Seems too strange to be true now.
DonasaurusRex
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X1 was trash, as was X3 and Wolverine Origins...xmen has been a smedium good franchise with DoFP , The Wolverine and First CLass, but for the popularity of the property ...they have under performed.
SketchTheArtist
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The idea of having a weird sci-fi/horror version of F4 with some shades of Cronenberg would've been really cool. Especially if it they wanted to make it fit in the X-Men movie universe.
But in order to do that, they would've had to 100% trust Trank's vision but from a business perspective, that's a lot to ask for with that amount of money Fox poured in. And it seems Trank didn't have enough experience and judgement to salvage it.
A shame. There's no clear ''bad guys'' here.
Miles Teller got dropped from Arms and the Dudes.
EDIT: Apparently he wasn't dropped because of Fant4stic, a misinterpretation on my part.
EDIT: Apparently he wasn't dropped because of Fant4stic, a misinterpretation on my part.
WTF.
Nothing in that article suggests that it did, other than the blogger's rambling.
FriendlyGoat
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That is, uhhh, not what that article says...
Unless I'm missing something he is still a part of that movie. It's already been filming IIRC. The article says he was dropped from La La Land, but not necessarily because of Fantastic Four.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Because fuck the ultimate universe
Pai Pai Master
Banned
No clue seems the writers in both cases just wanted to treat Doom like a typical Saturday morning cartoon villain, which he is obviously not.
You can't. The Ultimate Universe fucks you.
If the agent said "Hey, I just got a call from Lionsgate. Damien told them that he no longer thinks you're fantastic for the project. He's moving on without you.
Then maybe we would be on to something.
Followed right by this:
That indicates that it had nothing to do with Fantastic Four and everything to do with the director becoming a bit more high profile and having access to more bankable and recognizable stars.
Thanks for pointing that out for me. I edited my post accordingly.
No you fools don't you realize Fantastic four ruined everything. It's the source of all the problems!!
Fan4stic four has ruined the careers and has lives. And I also heard that it's ran over a puppy today at Fox's studio lot
FriendlyGoat
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You also got the wrong movie. He was not dropped from Arms and Dudes. He was dropped from La La Land.
shiftplusone
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the f4 is a family of superheroes. How these movies continue to fuck up even that point every time is a shock to me
even the 7 wolverine films get the concept that only like 3 xmen+wolverine are relevant at any one time
that says he got dropped from La La Land, not Arms and the Dudes
even the 7 wolverine films get the concept that only like 3 xmen+wolverine are relevant at any one time
that says he got dropped from La La Land, not Arms and the Dudes
More_Badass
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Looks like the Doom scanners clip was taken down
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzko5iNo5wM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzko5iNo5wM
birthday-suit
Banned
It sucked so bad.
I want to smash things when people say it was so good.
I like James Mcavoy a lot. Fassbenders cool.
I don't like Jennifer Lawrence as Mystique. The whole movie is about them.
And everyone else is just thrown in.
Amazing means amazing. Its not for movies where characters are just thrown in to blast stuff.
I'm looking at you Azazel. And Vertigo.
More_Badass
Member
It was so good
Of course they did. As bad as his design is, that was the ONE part of the movie that had any energy behind it.
Don't want to put the best scene out there for free, right?
I'm just back from seeing this and it really isn't as bad as a lot of people are suggesting, although it is by no means particularly good. You certainly get an idea of what they were trying to do with the film, but the execution was poor. I'd say its closest comparison is something like X1 where there were some decent aspects but too many flaws to make it good. At the very least it is a little better than the lowest tier comic book films like Ghost Rider or Jonah Hex.
Its main weakness was it really didn't give any character much of an understandable arc. The film totally ran out of steam after they got their powers and really nothing felt all that thought through in the story. I'm all for fewer action set pieces in a superhero film but if you aren't going to have some type of spectacle you actually need to do a competent job of handling the drama and character development, which didn't happen here. The characters barely spoke to each other and they just sort of drifted though the film.
Overall, 3 out of 10 but I probably would watch a sequel. I would be quite surprised if they don't just reboot again though.
Its main weakness was it really didn't give any character much of an understandable arc. The film totally ran out of steam after they got their powers and really nothing felt all that thought through in the story. I'm all for fewer action set pieces in a superhero film but if you aren't going to have some type of spectacle you actually need to do a competent job of handling the drama and character development, which didn't happen here. The characters barely spoke to each other and they just sort of drifted though the film.
Overall, 3 out of 10 but I probably would watch a sequel. I would be quite surprised if they don't just reboot again though.
Ganzlinger
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Yes. I thought I was the only one here who thinks that X-Men movies are overrated. That said, I enjoyed Days of Future Past and I am hyped for Apocalypse.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
This is actually worse than people are suggesting.
Well marks out of 10 are pretty arbitrary. Reading through the thread it seems that many posters think it's an unwatchable train wreck of a movie. For me it certainly wasn't the worst film I've seen this year at the cinema.
OrangeAtlas
Member
Was anyone else expecting Reed to find his toy car in the Negative Zone (Earth Zero?) when they finally teleported there? I thought it would've been a cliche but nice character moment, with Reed realizing he finally achieved his dream from all those years ago.
Then the movie went off the rails and everyone stopped caring.
Then the movie went off the rails and everyone stopped caring.
……forgetit
Member
Wait.....Reed originally finished the flying car? Wtf?
AmaterasuOni
Banned
I actually did. It would have made so much sense and it would have made Reed and Ben closer while chatting about it and reliving their childhood. But yeah, then the movie went down the toilet.
I thought they would do that, considering there was something similar to the comic.
What was all that stuff with the car?
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