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Final Fantasy XIV |OT6| Casino Royale
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Pellegri Testament
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Inb4 "this shit is too easy, they need to up the difficulty more". Normal mode raids are cleared just as fast if not faster in WoW too and that game has had 10 years to perfect it's difficulty.
There are not going to be much harder normal mode bosses than what we have seen so far, not without being broken beyond belief or having zero margin for error(Twin - FF14 prenerf, Cthun - WoW prenerf) or being extremely overtuned(Akylios - Rift prenerf, Warden - FF11, Yogg Saron 0 lights - WoW(required 10 locks before a new tier came out) ).
Looks like tanks also get screwed again on their chest armor being from the final turn(expecting bard, ninja and healer also looking at what has dropped for people so far).
There are not going to be much harder normal mode bosses than what we have seen so far, not without being broken beyond belief or having zero margin for error(Twin - FF14 prenerf, Cthun - WoW prenerf) or being extremely overtuned(Akylios - Rift prenerf, Warden - FF11, Yogg Saron 0 lights - WoW(required 10 locks before a new tier came out) ).
Looks like tanks also get screwed again on their chest armor being from the final turn(expecting bard, ninja and healer also looking at what has dropped for people so far).
The PS3/PS4 trial is coming soon.
Wow... spoiler talk...
So, Louis here steals Goku's Ryuken, uses the power of the twelve to push past the limits of his humanity to defeat Bahamut, but Bahamut... used the control systems of Dalamud to start resurrecting himself and tempered Louis' aetherial form or something?
Well, given the quality of our story presented past 2.0, I can roll with that. =P
Of course, Bahamut can just be resummoned over and over again like any other primal. /Huzzah!
Well, given the quality of our story presented past 2.0, I can roll with that. =P
Of course, Bahamut can just be resummoned over and over again like any other primal. /Huzzah!
Rising_Hei
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It's real fun... as a tank even more, imo... about the difficulty, i find it kinda like Levi EX. What does this mean? if you play with a group of level that have an smart sense of movement and alert, this fight is gonna be piece of cake since it relies a lot on pure skill, if the group you are kind of clumsy this can be the hardest primal for now, imo
I wish i had the resolve to do T9, after leaving my set back in july i've been lazy and i won't even join another one, the fact that i don't enjoy such a battle doesn't help (reached phase 4)
Wow Lucrezia. Kudos.
EDIT: The reddit thread is a who's who of people who have no idea. These guys/gals have been putting in 12 hours days since patch. They've probably put over 60 hours into coil since release, I'd say that's a pretty good amount for the absolute best players in the world to get the hardest content down.
EDIT: The reddit thread is a who's who of people who have no idea. These guys/gals have been putting in 12 hours days since patch. They've probably put over 60 hours into coil since release, I'd say that's a pretty good amount for the absolute best players in the world to get the hardest content down.
Pellegri Testament
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Sad thing is most of those people whining are likely people who are still struggling on 6-8 and have yet to even take a look at 9 since "it looks so easy" when the best of the best are going through it. None of those idiots understand that there is a difference between watching a video and seeing the fight first hand, most of them never will either since a video is enough for them to judge how "easy" or "hard" something is.
Depends how you view it. Would you prefer that raid bosses were made arbitrarily more difficult by being made impossible without gear? It would extend content but the extension would be exponential the less skilled a player you are, because you would be getting less gear every week and tomes are capped.
The way I look at it, just because they can do it in penta-crafted gear doesn't mean any of us in the second tier of raiding can, I know I'll probably need a serious ilvl boost to down any of this content past probably t11. I feel like this is an indication that Square have tuned their fights to a really spectacular level, allowing for the 0.01% to squeeze the absolute best from their classes to get these down but making them too hard for the rest to do without the ilvl boost. Its an impressive balance IMO.
Rising_Hei
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The same thing happened with coil 2, a group of player got Turn 9 down very fast, so they thought they could get the kill that "easily" as well
Time showed that turn 9 kill was much much harder to achieve than turn 5 post twister nerf
! it's only that those people that got the earlier kill were good and smart, and wit no need to copycat anyone (that's what real skills means). Most players think they'll be able to rush the whole coil really soon, and we'll only be getting drama because they can't kill it once 3-4 months happen (Average dudes or pts with DPS that don't know how to do the most damage possible, not Order of the Blue Gartr-like set pts)Altered Juice
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"wow! within the week? LAWL final coil is easy even though my group is still on T9"
Rising_Hei
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Because a group managed to kill it in 1 week you can't really say it's easy yet...
Not sure what this has to do with what I said :x T13 is like 3 times the HP of T11 so it's still just a lot of health to burn through unless there's a gimmick that makes that HP not a big deal. Pentamelded i110 gives them stats above what i110 would dictate otherwise but it's still basically <i120 across the board.
Besides, from what I've seen of Final Coil so far, it seems more mechanics gated than gear gated. T13 was just the standout with that over 3M HP number.
Having a newbie friendly FC helps a lot with the dungeon queues. Waited nearly 2 hours yesterday for a dungeon duty to pop and the tank left the game after 2 minutes
Augemitbutter
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Well, I mean it's a reachable number in the current enrage timers. It's not this insurmountable gear wall that requires i130 weapons to reach. Just pentamelds, maybe a single i120 Poetics slot or Shiva accessory, and a ton of pots.
"Just."
Just need to do good.
Pankratous
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So has 2.4 released yet? If it has, what new abilities did PLD get now that you can level up to 60?
Tried googling but to no avail.
Tried googling but to no avail.
Yes 2.4 released. You can't level up to 60 yet. That's coming in the expansion in about 6 months.
I'm not sure if PLD got any ability changes, but no new abilities were added in 2.4.
Pankratous
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Oh right yeah, got my updates/expansions confused.
tiggerkiddo
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It's been released but no new skills for PLD and no level cap increase. That will come in the Spring of 2015 with the expansion.
Anywho seeing the T13 boss makes me even more excited to face it, maybe 5 months down the line!
2.4 wasnt a level cap raise.
tiggerkiddo
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Last two bosses of Final Coil look far more interesting than anything Second Coil threw at us
I thought T7 was really cool.
I must say I did not expect that summon to show up so soon and in that kind of quality.
Now zoom out like how you would actually play the game and tell me if you can see any of that detail.
DrForester
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Lalas are just crappy looking Tarus.
I get repped as #1 lala hater but cmon, Lalas are superior to Tarus in just about every way. Tarus look like freaky living dolls.
This is what the game looks like to me when I'm actually doing content and not screwing around in Mist (well, with the UI on it, but you get the idea):
Bonus shot with my retainer wearing the gigantic manroe appearance I had pre-lala:
That zoomed out I can't see shit on any race, aside from Amon's Hat which is why Amon's Hat is and forever will be the best hat.
But realistically if I want detail I'm zooming in anyway, lala, catgirl, or manroe.
DrForester
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Tarus at least have real eyes, and not the dead vacant things Lalas have.
Tarus also have Star Sibyl.
Tarus at least have real eyes, and not the dead vacant things Lalas have.
Tarus also have Star Sibyl.
Lalas have Master Xtech.
Check...mate. I think.
Go team Japan!
Neither do moon cats.
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