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Final Fantasy XIV |OT6| Casino Royale

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Who cares if somebody was carried or not. The help T10 group I did last week went smoother/quicker than our static T10, so...

Sounds like to me Garf > most fc statics, will especially be true when they get t12 before even a 3rd core static group gets it lol.

"Carried" indeed when said group is getting kills before groups that have been together for a while.
 

dramatis

Member
Drama, buy me a PS3 copy of this game plz.
You don't want to have your wedding on a ps3

Now you're derailing it, I never praised Sargatanas in the recent thing. Nor am I railing on Ultros in anyway, I'm simply calling you out on your behavior.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=143491876&postcount=132
What's the derail? This is the OT. Unless we're not talking about FF14 or something related, there is no derail.

And what behavior is objectionable in that post? Notably you didn't answer the part of Pellegri's post that addressed why I would make the response I made, but instead selectively picked his edit to talk about:
Exactly this. Folks all absolutely antagonize the guy. As seen in that thread as well, there was a small contingent that understood where the guy was coming from. Then folks like Drama just outright insult the guy.
The small 'contingent', as far as I can find in that thread, consisted of two posters, one of whom didn't detail his experience or his in-game name, and the other being Mozendo, who I had to check a spreadsheet to confirm he was ever in the FC. Nobody even remembers him.

So then you have to ask the question: Is it the fault of FC members for not answering to his greetings? Does that automatically mean it's a "clique-like" atmosphere, simply because your greetings are ignored by people who may be doing other things, including not being logged in at the same time? If the incidents he spoke of as his experience happened, why didn't he report it to the FC officers?

When someone calls his experience in your FC the "worst experience [he] ever had in a guild", there is no room for debate on what the problem actually was? Questioning the amount of effort exerted to ply for 'friendship and respect' is an insult? And that justifies his complaints?

He says he was in the FC for two weeks. It took me a month to cross glazenut seeds to grow for the FC, and that was only 1 of the many needed to make furniture and minions for contests.

Tomo and Chocolate who spend every week helping clear people through content, do they deserve to be called the "worst experience ever had in a guild"? Angary who fished a bunch of bikinis and swimsuits back when they were lucrative and handed them out for free? The many master crafters of the FC who craft things for other people at low cost? The people who offered a lot of resources when I complained at Tabris about the troubles of sustaining the FC garden on my own? Do these players who make the FC a great thing to be a part of deserve the label of "worst experience" because one guy felt ignored and my one post criticizing his arguments somehow conversely legitimizes his complaints about the FC?

Your unfounded bias against Ultros came long before any drama even happened on Ultros itself. It has persistently colored your posts here, and I wonder at times if you are not just clouding your own perceptions. You know a few people who chose to start fresh on Ultros, players who were your fellows in 1.0; have you ever considered why they decided to stay? Why they are still playing, when Red Dot is no longer even GAF?

The questions are rhetorical. Let Taruranto fish the sun.
 
Thanks to Zan, Scy, Punch, Grimm, Angary, Qhon, Sol and Gylbart for helping me get my Shiva weapon

sorry for tilting and fucking up so much in the latter half of the runs :(
 

Sorian

Banned
Well it's a nice try but can't reply proper until I get home :D

Rhetoric or not I will answer them

Welp

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I second Galen, you should just shut up, but you won't. And that's hilarious.
 

IvorB

Member
Dear Santa,

Please help Sony get their sh*t together so that I can actually play this game tomorrow. Otherwise f**k you.

Thanks,

IvorB
 

BadRNG

Member
Sounds like to me Garf > most fc statics, will especially be true when they get t12 before even a 3rd core static group gets it lol.

"Carried" indeed when said group is getting kills before groups that have been together for a while.
Isn't that kind of apples and oranges, one being all new people and the other being half comprised of people who have beaten? Of course it's going to be easier when you got people who already know the fight like the back of their hand.

Beneath the flaming jackassness of Tabris' post, there was an interesting question of what makes a carry a carry. Is it just surviving till the end? Completely pulling your weight in all aspects (damage, mechanics, etc.)? Something in between? I doubt we'd ever get a consensus but it's an interesting question to me.

Dear Santa,

Please help Sony get their sh*t together so that I can actually play this game tomorrow. Otherwise f**k you.

Thanks,

IvorB
Wow, is it still down for most people? I was able to login and do crap on the JPN PSN earlier today, thought maybe it was fixed.

They need to delink PSN from FFXIV somehow, the game can run fine when you aren't signed in, you should be able to log in somehow without going through PSN as well.
 

IvorB

Member
Isn't that kind of apples and oranges, one being all new people and the other being half comprised of people who have beaten? Of course it's going to be easier when you got people who already know the fight like the back of their hand.

Beneath the flaming jackassness of Tabris' post, there was an interesting question of what makes a carry a carry. Is it just surviving till the end? Completely pulling your weight in all aspects (damage, mechanics, etc.)? Something in between? I doubt we'd ever get a consensus but it's an interesting question to me.


Wow, is it still down for most people? I was able to login and do crap on the JPN PSN earlier today, thought maybe it was fixed.

They need to delink PSN from FFXIV somehow, the game can run fine when you aren't signed in, you should be able to log in somehow without going through PSN as well.

Still nothing for me here in the UK. Maybe mañana...

I think to truly be carried you would have had to contribute little or nothing towards the fight.
 
But you are. The only thing you're accomplishing right now is making yourself look like a fool.

and a heck of a job he's doing.

I can't resist a flawed argument. Which has been all of dramas posts to date on these matters.

the only one who's finding them flawed is you, and you've offered no good counter-arguments whatsoever.

Honestly it's not worth giving you attention but I can't resist calling out a tiresome, contrarian of a troll shitting up a thread when I see one.
 

kiryogi

Banned
and a heck of a job he's doing.



the only one who's finding them flawed is you, and you've offered no good counter-arguments whatsoever.

Honestly it's not worth giving you attention but I can't resist calling out a tiresome, contrarian of a troll shitting up a thread when I see one.
Kinda Can't right now . On phone and at work. Can't really give out a good response in these circumstances
 

Dega

Eeny Meenie Penis
Lol haven't posted here in a long time. Funny to see drama between the old and new groups still going on. I think that's what's happening at least.
 

Frazley

Member
I'm just glad that you guys accept me, Bibinasu, Lalafell warts and all!

You guys inspire me to keep playing. Maybe one day I'll be raiding with the big guys. Best Guild I've ever been in!
 

Alrus

Member
I don't really understand what's happening right now.

Also, when I finally get decent enough gear to run Coil, if I skip immediately to say, T5, I'll miss all the story content right? Because while the story cutscenes aren't always great I'm still curious about them.
 

QisTopTier

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Now you're derailing it, I never praised Sargatanas in the recent thing. Nor am I railing on Ultros in anyway, I'm simply calling you out on your behavior.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=143491876&postcount=132
Yeah can't say I agree with most of that post as being non clique. Sounds pretty snotty and stuck up. "If you can't help me why should I help you" is the tone of it.

Since you are the type that goes out of your way to help whoever on your free time it's not shocking you two are having a huge argument over stuff like this.

Edit: nothing wrong with either view either. You are not paying for their sub so you can't really say shit about how they spend their time playing.
 
I don't really understand what's happening right now.

Also, when I finally get decent enough gear to run Coil, if I skip immediately to say, T5, I'll miss all the story content right? Because while the story cutscenes aren't always great I'm still curious about them.

There are a couple of cutscenes in the earlier turns, but it's nothing major (basically "WOW WHAT IS THIS"-style dialogue) and most of the story is in T5. Plus you can easily go back and do T1-4 (skip T3) later, takes no time at all.

Edit: That said, since T1-4 only takes like half an hour, might as well do them first if you care about the story.
 
Yeah can't say I agree with most of that post as being non clique. Sounds pretty snotty and stuck up. "If you can't help me why should I help you" is the tone of it.

Since you are the type that goes out of your way to help whoever on your free time it's not shocking you two are having a huge argument over stuff like this.

Tbh the post doesnt imply any of that and it seems youre assuming drama isnt one to help others when in reality she's done more for gaf fc than anyone else.
 
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