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[Qvoth]

Re: That GC mat discussion above - I was curious as to how much GC items were selling for on MB since I seem to have excess seals all the time.

On Tonberry at the moment [item (seals) - lowest MB price]:

Coke (1500) - 7000G
Animal Fat (1500) - 2700G
Lime Sulphur (1500) - 5800G
Potash (1500) - 6000G
Aqueous Whetstone (1500) - 1900G
Peacock Ore (1500) - 3500G
Hardened Sap (1500) - 6800G

Petrified Log (9000) - 600G
Scheelite (9000) - 19,000G
Raziqsand (9000) - 8800G
Saurian skin (9000) - 7000G
Cashmere Fleece (9000) - 7800G
Emery (9000) - 8000G

Tawny Latex (2700) - 10,000G

Seems like none of the 9000 seal costs are great investments. Coke and Sap and Latex are good, though. lol @ Petrified Log.

lemme give you a protip
best gc material for selling (at least in tonberry) is actually filtered water
1500 gc seals for 10 filtered waters which amount to 7000 gil

BAM

edit: oh coke is 7000? as far as i know coke's prices fluctuate a lot really quick, filtered water is a lot more stable

 

[ponpo]

lemme give you a protip
best gc material for selling (at least in tonberry) is actually filtered water
1500 gc seals for 10 filtered waters which amount to 7000 gil

BAM

edit: oh coke is 7000? as far as i know coke's prices fluctuate a lot really quick, filtered water is a lot more stable

Well since I made that post hours ago Coke lowest price is 4500 :v

PS come online and carry me through T9 おねがい

 

[Qvoth]

just go into df if you wanna be carried lol
or maybe put in your PF extra 100 soldiery bonus, people seem to be into that nowadays

 

[ponpo]

just go into df if you wanna be carried lol
or maybe put in your PF extra 100 soldiery bonus, people seem to be into that nowadays

The problem with DF is it will be all Japanese aka one wipe and vote abandon. (Also I don't know what the 9/7/11/etc callouts for T9 are)

I tried PF for a while but my 100 soldier bonus PF apparently can't compete with the t9 greed PFs ._.

 

[scy]

The problem with DF is it will be all Japanese aka one wipe and vote abandon. (Also I don't know what the 9/7/11/etc callouts for T9 are)

I tried PF for a while but my 100 soldier bonus PF apparently can't compete with the t9 greed PFs ._.

9/7/11 sounds like clock positions for Divebomb placements.

 

[Qvoth]

The problem with DF is it will be all Japanese aka one wipe and vote abandon. (Also I don't know what the 9/7/11/etc callouts for T9 are)

I tried PF for a while but my 100 soldier bonus PF apparently can't compete with the t9 greed PFs ._.

try putting only E for your DF q then lol
if you're getting desperate to clear it i'll see what i can do, problem is i doubt my fc guys will want to help you for free since they're all used to selling carries and not all of my static goes online every day if we have no raid

 

[Hasemo]

The problem with DF is it will be all Japanese aka one wipe and vote abandon. (Also I don't know what the 9/7/11/etc callouts for T9 are)

I tried PF for a while but my 100 soldier bonus PF apparently can't compete with the t9 greed PFs ._.

Have you at least read/watched a guide for T9? If not, you might wipe your party on quite a few occasions. Callouts are, like someone said before, for Meteor Stream (divebombs), so that they don't overlap, since it's an aoe attack.
Also you can't really vote abandon after 1 wipe, because at least 15 minutes have to pass
But yeah, I've been in DF T9 hell for a good 3 days. PF is much, much better. Just ask the party leader if you can join, worked for me.

 

[ponpo]

9/7/11 sounds like clock positions for Divebomb placements.

They were waiting on me to announce a position, though.

After looking at JP DF T9 videos, I think it was for placement of the initial meteors. They don't seem to do the pairs of meteors like the EN guides show but they are spread along the outside with the 3 golems in the middle.

try putting only E for your DF q then lol
if you're getting desperate to clear it i'll see what i can do, problem is i doubt my fc guys will want to help you for free since they're all used to selling carries and not all of my static goes online every day if we have no raid

Hm well I'll see. I'll just do DF then call out a random number then through a すいません and get carried heh heh.

Have you at least read/watched a guide for T9? If not, you might wipe your party on quite a few occasions. Callouts are, like someone said before, for Meteor Stream (divebombs), so that they don't overlap, since it's an aoe attack.
Also you can't really vote abandon after 1 wipe, because at least 15 minutes have to pass
But yeah, I've been in DF T9 hell for a good 3 days. PF is much, much better. Just ask the party leader if you can join, worked for me.

Yeah watched videos. Like I replied to scy right above though, I think they were for the meteor placements ala this video since they were waiting for a reply but maybe not.

 

[chrono01]

They were waiting on me to announce a position, though.

After looking at JP DF T9 videos, I think it was for placement of the initial meteors. They don't seem to do the pairs of meteors like the EN guides show but they are spread along the outside with the 3 golems in the middle.

Yeah, in that case they're probably waiting/expecting you to call out a specific position so they know not to drop the meteors [if they get any] near you, as well as knowing where you'll drop yours should it come to that..

 

[scy]

They were waiting on me to announce a position, though.

After looking at JP DF T9 videos, I think it was for placement of the initial meteors. They don't seem to do the pairs of meteors like the EN guides show but they are spread along the outside with the 3 golems in the middle.

Then, yeah, meteor (or Meteor Stream, possibly) placements. The 9 stood out as awkward for Divebomb anyway.

 

[Qvoth]

i never understood the jp's preference for t9 middle tanking, makes evading lunar dynamo and the dive afterwards so much harder
the melee dps loss really doesn't matter that much nowadays since there's echoes etc

 

[ponpo]

Did it a couple of times but keep dying at the last phase. The Fire and Ice shit is more hectic than it seemed.

Is there a sign you've been hit with that thunder ability or do you just have to keep an eye on the status bar?

 

[chrono01]

Did it a couple of times but keep dying at the last phase. The Fire and Ice shit is more hectic than it seemed.

Is there a sign you've been hit with that thunder ability or do you just have to keep an eye on the status bar?

You can see the orb of electricity hit you, and you do have a slight graphic on you [I believe]. I mainly watch my de-buffs for when it's going out and move accordingly.

Turn 9 definitely seems hectic at first, with the fire/ice/thunder/dive bombs/etc., but it's really not too bad. It just seems like a lot initially, but get in there a few more times [with a good group] and I'm sure you'll make some solid progress.

 

[Hasemo]

Then, yeah, meteor (or Meteor Stream, possibly) placements. The 9 stood out as awkward for Divebomb anyway.

It's for metor stream. Japanese players always placed meteors for golems clockwise, starting from 2-3, so there's no need to call anything.

And yeah, that last place is the worst, especially with divebombs near the end. After some practice everything before it becomes mindless repetition.

 

[Qvoth]

Did it a couple of times but keep dying at the last phase. The Fire and Ice shit is more hectic than it seemed.

Is there a sign you've been hit with that thunder ability or do you just have to keep an eye on the status bar?

grats! if you're at the last phase then you're close to clearing
for thunder, yes you will have the debuff logo on wherever you put your debuff logo is on your hud
memorize the rotation if you can, it's a very easy fight if you know what's coming

 

[iammeiam]

KORRA WAS ROBBED.

Korra created the instrument of his own defeat, though. There's a tragic beauty in that.

 

[ponpo]

Attempting strategy instead of just carrying me?

>Abandon duty

Spoiler

But really, little diagram macros for DF is nice.

 

[Qvoth]

Attempting strategy instead of just carrying me?

>Abandon duty

Spoiler

But really, little diagram macros for DF is nice.

good luck!

 

[Kagari]

Wow. JP so organized.

 

[crazygambit]

If you have been Spiritbonding and have an excess amount of Water Crystals you can use lv 50 Botanist to Collect the mats for Madman's Whispering Wand crafted by the Alchemist. The nodes are 1pm - 5pm - 9pm. You can collect 25 each per hour, make 25 Wands and trade in for 15K seals.

I generated 581K seals to raise my new FC to Rank 6... I'm burnt!

Now that is some solid advice. Too bad my BOT is in the 30s. It's just so boring to level up. However I'm thinking the time it takes to collect the stuff, plus making the HQ rods might net you less than running fates.

Last night I ran fates in a few regions and got about 12k seals (wasn't tracking the time, but maybe a little over an hour?), lots of light for my Novus and completed the 100 enemy kills for my chocobo, so it seemed worthwhile to do.

Edit: Also got an Alexandrite for the first time ever on a FATE. It's nice the game decided to wait till I was done with them to start throwing them out on FATES.

Edit: Also my excess of water crystals is from CUL desynth.

 

[retrogamer84]

Sorry again to everyone that was with me in T5 last night for going afk. Like I said in chat, I got a really difficult phone call from my girlfriend and just zoned out. On a happier note, T1-T4 gave me enough soldiery to grab 2 more pieces of myth gear and almost enough poetics for my first piece of Ironworks. Thanks to those who helped out as always. You are a big part of what makes this FC so great!

 

[Frumix]

i never understood the jp's preference for t9 middle tanking, makes evading lunar dynamo and the dive afterwards so much harder
the melee dps loss really doesn't matter that much nowadays since there's echoes etc

Stardust is actually baitable. I'm not sure what determines the probability, proximity to boss or to the middle of the arena but people far outside are significantly more likely to be targeted for Stardust to the point where you can do a consistent pattern around the arena if most of the team except for a caster or a bard just stand in the middle. Dodging Meteor Stream after Lunar Dynamo can be a bit tricky but if you start to move right at the end of Lunar Dynamo's castbar you will dodge the donut and be right on time to spread for Stream. Because of this even when there's a group that tanks North, if it has 1 or 2 melee only, I tend to hang around the boss as WHM so as not to get bothered by Stardust.

The positions were for Meteor Stream. I don't think anybody cares anymore what color of meteor goes where?

Other differences in JP strat include absolute preference for karting the fast meteors instead of just doing a spread (when first mark shows up you pop sprint, when second shows up you start running) and they don't normally dynamically mark divebombs resorting to macro or some form of static marking (I usually just look out for myself instead of trying to process the clock hand directions though).

And yes, JP pugs are crazy organized when it comes to tough content. Their T8 macro routines. So good.

 

[Kagari]

Sorry again to everyone that was with me in T5 last night for going afk. Like I said in chat, I got a really difficult phone call from my girlfriend and just zoned out. On a happier note, T1-T4 gave me enough soldiery to grab 2 more pieces of myth gear and almost enough poetics for my first piece of Ironworks. Thanks to those who helped out as always. You are a big part of what makes this FC so great!

No worries. We were too busy laughing at a certain DRG <_<...

 

[orion434]

Now that is some solid advice. Too bad my BOT is in the 30s. It's just so boring to level up. However I'm thinking the time it takes to collect the stuff, plus making the HQ rods might net you less than running fates.

Last night I ran fates in a few regions and got about 12k seals (wasn't tracking the time, but maybe a little over an hour?), lots of light for my Novus and completed the 100 enemy kills for my chocobo, so it seemed worthwhile to do.

Edit: Also got an Alexandrite for the first time ever on a FATE. It's nice the game decided to wait till I was done with them to start throwing them out on FATES.

Edit: Also my excess of water crystals is from CUL desynth.

For sure, if you can do two or three things at once it's definitely worth it! But I'd never buy those mats or the items they make on the MB, knowing that a few worthless trade-ins will net me them for a fraction of the price

I desynthed 48 Artisan Saws Last Night and got 48 Mastercraft Demimatetia! They made it way to easy to get these, I don't even use any HQ mats for the trade-ins!

 

[Trojita]

No worries. We were too busy laughing at a certain DRG <_<...

 

[crazygambit]

For sure, if you can do two or three things at once it's definitely worth it! But I'd never buy those mats or the items they make on the MB, knowing that a few worthless trade-ins will net me them for a fraction of the price

I desynthed 48 Artisan Saws Last Night and got 48 Mastercraft Demimatetia! They made it way to easy to get these, I don't even use any HQ mats for the trade-ins!

Insane. I really need to get my BSM desynth up.

Also to whoever said that after you got a desynth to 100 it would become locked, I'd like a word with you...

Edit: How much money do you have??? You might be even richer than my neighbor. He claims he's at 125 million and I totally believe him seeing the stuff he has selling on the MB, plus the mansion that makes might small house look insignificant. He also gave me some crafting tips, which was cool.

 

[irfaanator]

Attempting strategy instead of just carrying me?

>Abandon duty

Spoiler

But really, little diagram macros for DF is nice.

man how do they make those arrows

 

[Trojita]

What does ST stand for in that macro? I'm guessing it means the Off Tank. Side Tank?

 

[Frumix]

What does ST stand for in that macro? I'm guessing it means the Off Tank. Side Tank?

Sub Tank.

 

[Kagari]

Super (DPS) Tank.

 

[Jayhawk]

People with macros to explain strategies can also be found in some CT and ST runs. If I didn't use voice chat programs, I probably would have such macros. I used to have macros for Titan extreme to warn people when plumes or landslides were coming. X_X

EDIT:

So Slycer from BG Forums posted his more detailed translations from JP Fan Fest, including the YoshiP panels. The training challenge to measure your DPS is for post-expansion. X_X

There is a section on minions for Kagari's unhealthy obsession.

Plus, a question made for Mike D's unhealthy obsession.

You&#8217;ve said that the drop rate of horses from primals went up significantly, but it doesn&#8217;t see much different than before.

Yoshida: It was doubled, but the original drop rate was already low, so I&#8217;d like to adjust this further. There will be something unique you can obtain in patch 2.5 once you&#8217;ve obtained all the primal horses, so I think people will be more encouraged to gather up the primal horses if we make them more easily obtainable.

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/124603-FFXIV-Tokyo-Fan-Fest-Translations

 

[crazygambit]

Super (DPS) Tank.

Somewhat related to that, I wonder what the difference in DPS between my i116 WAR STR specced with STR accessories with a DPS melded Novus (and Defiance off) vs my i106 Ninja with Sol weapon is.

I'm sure it's in the Ninja's favor, but I wonder by how much. I wouldn't mind running T6-9 with my WAR in a DPS slot just for kicks (and the added survivability).

 

[studyguy]

Hey guys, when they say doubled the drop rate. You have to remember. Doubling .01% is still only .02% :3

 

[crazygambit]

Hey guys, when they say doubled the drop rate. You have to remember. Doubling .01% is still only .02% :3

It still should take half the time though.

 

[iammeiam]

Hey guys, when they say doubled the drop rate. You have to remember. Doubling .01% is still only .02% :3

I'd honestly have guessed they at least quadrupled it; it seems like I've seen an infinite number of Levi ponies drop and still never seen the Shiva pony actually show up as loot despite having completed substantially more Shivas. Ifrit and Ramuh ponies also didn't seem to take too many runs to see post-increase, although I might have just missed the bulk of the farming for those.

 

[studyguy]

I too have seen actual horse drops since the patch, so going from someone who had never seen one drop to seeing a couple, I assume it went up drastically. If you can call seeing 3 drastic. It's a lot to me D:

 

[orion434]

Insane. I really need to get my BSM desynth up.

Also to whoever said that after you got a desynth to 100 it would become locked, I'd like a word with you...

Edit: How much money do you have??? You might be even richer than my neighbor. He claims he's at 125 million and I totally believe him seeing the stuff he has selling on the MB, plus the mansion that makes might small house look insignificant. He also gave me some crafting tips, which was cool.

You could do the same with Artisan Needles since everyone has GSM at 100.00, that's why the Crawler Coccons sell for so much! Scheelite has risen in cost so BSM is tough to get to 100.00 again, I caught it when it was 5K - 8K, it's about 24K on Ultros currently.

I just bought our FC mansion for 45 mil, that was less than 1/4th my gil. I'm stockpiling massive amounts of materials, almost done

 

[Kintaro]

You could do the same with Artisan Needles since everyone has GSM at 100.00, that's why the Crawler Coccons sell for so much! Scheelite has risen in cost so BSM is tough to get to 100.00 again, I caught it when it was 5K - 8K, it's about 24K on Ultros currently.

I just bought our FC mansion for 45 mil, that was less than 1/4th my gil. I'm stockpiling massive amounts of materials, almost done

Jebus. WTF am I doing in this game to make me so damn poor? =(

 

[Aeriscloud]

So Slycer from BG Forums

Jerk tore my free company in half. The absolute worst person to talk to on TS.

 

[crazygambit]

You could do the same with Artisan Needles since everyone has GSM at 100.00, that's why the Crawler Coccons sell for so much! Scheelite has risen in cost so BSM is tough to get to 100.00 again, I caught it when it was 5K - 8K, it's about 24K on Ultros currently.

I just bought our FC mansion for 45 mil, that was less than 1/4th my gil. I'm stockpiling massive amounts of materials, almost done

Yeah I realized that after I posted. I bought a bunch of crawler cocoons cheap before they dropped the requirement for artisan tools.

I just got my GSM desynth to 100 last week (or the one before that), from about 85 exclusively thanks to the 3 star rings for the relic. Materials were super cheap (even though I was buying everything) at around 2k-5k per ring. And being 3 star each one gave me a massive boost when I didn't blow it up. I think I'm gonna try doing the same for BSM, though I'm still in the 60s so no need to do that yet.

It would be nice to be that rich someday. I've never had more than 5 mil on hand, since I keep throwing everything into the black hole that is crafting. Just last week there was a point where I had 50k gil. Now I'm back to a more manageable 2.7 mil, but it's still not enough to do much. If only my Forager Wrists would sell...

 

[LiQuid!]

These atma books sure are fun. 3 hours waiting for a fate and then failing it because it's the one fate in the entire zone that's like impossible to solo. Got it.

 

[retrogamer84]

Yeah I must admit that the fate camping is by far the worst part of the relic quest yet and is pushing me towards just buying a poetics weapon when I can. I want to get the zodiac weapon, but it looks like I won't be able to get a weapon as good as the tomb one for months at this pace.

 

[Trojita]

I only have like a 1 mil and I'm barely holding onto that.

Still need to meld my gatherers. I have all my crafters/gatherers at 50 and haven't done shit. Is soil where all the money comes from? How does someone amass 200 mil like it is nothing?

 

[studyguy]

Books you say?

 

[irfaanator]

I only have like a 1 mil and I'm barely holding onto that.

Still need to meld my gatherers. I have all my crafters/gatherers at 50 and haven't done shit. Is soil where all the money comes from? How does someone amass 200 mil like it is nothing?

where the spear at?

 

[Kagari]

where the spear at?

Stuck in Turn 5.

 

[crazygambit]

These atma books sure are fun. 3 hours waiting for a fate and then failing it because it's the one fate in the entire zone that's like impossible to solo. Got it.

There's no fate impossible to solo for the relics (the only impossible ones are special monsters like Gogimera, It's not Lupus and the like). That's why Yoshi gave us chocobos.

The thing is, some actually require you pay attention, manage cooldowns and use your chocobo correctly.

I remember one near little Ala Mhigo of 1 boss, that I got pretty late (about 8 mins to complete), solo, where I had to time Defiance use with Infuriate to use Inner Beast every minute to regain health (while keeping my damage to the max possible), so after that I would pop it off. Deciding which mobs to kill and which to continue taking damage from. All in all it was the most challenging single player content in the game and I was able to clear it with about 30 seconds to spare. Quite fun.

For the ones where you're level capped don't be afraid to uncap to heal yourself. Uncap, Second wind, cap, can usually bring you back to full health and you might lose 1 or 2 GCD at most. Actually never use self heals capped.

I only have like a 1 mil and I'm barely holding onto that.

Still need to meld my gatherers. I have all my crafters/gatherers at 50 and haven't done shit. Is soil where all the money comes from? How does someone amass 200 mil like it is nothing?

I have some bad news for you. HQ melded forager gear is around 2.5 - 3 mil a piece if you can't make it yourself. The mats alone cost about a million and the crafts are of course 4 star.

 

[Trojita]

Stuck in Turn 5.

 

[Jayhawk]

I only have like a 1 mil and I'm barely holding onto that.

Still need to meld my gatherers. I have all my crafters/gatherers at 50 and haven't done shit. Is soil where all the money comes from? How does someone amass 200 mil like it is nothing?

If you can't even put the effort into gathering the poetics for your weapon, don't expect to make a lot of gil.

 

[iammeiam]

Jayhawk this weekend I'm going to need craftering tips. BE PREPARED.

There's no fate impossible to solo for the relics (the only impossible ones are special monsters like Gogimera, It's not Lupus and the like). That's why Yoshi gave us chocobos.

The thing is, some actually require you pay attention, manage cooldowns and use your chocobo correctly.

I'm relatively sure this is incorrect. FATEs are balanced around how many people completed the previous occurrence of the FATE (back during the big Ninja push a ton of them would end up tuned to like 100 people and not soloable.) So the difficulty of any given occurrence of any given FATE is a crapshoot and may or may not be soloable depending on what it's tuned for, the class you're on, and how far level synced you are. It also makes the worst time to solo books the period rigt after prime time, since everything is scaled to groups and yet there are no people.