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LiQuid!

I proudly and openly admit to wishing death upon the mothers of people I don't like
You won't lose the barding if you pepper him. You can unlock the other two sets by leveling im past 10, yes. I got WHM first and DRG armor around rank 16 or so. Should have the last barding set when he hits 20 this week or next.

Awesome! Ok, gonna pepper and balance him out. Got a batch of onions and a whooole lot of krakka in the garden. I thought hitting rank 10 I would lose some of my fervor for leveling the guy up but now I just wanna level him up even more.
 
if you just started, basically you should just level up by doing quests
connect with all the aetheride crystals in your starting city! do it by right clicking the crystals, you can find out where they are from the map while inside the city
once you've reached other cities, connecting with crystals should be the 1st thing you do as well
in areas outside cities, right click to connect with that area's crystal as well


Thank you both for the tips and the guide!
 

Mesharey

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Awesome! Ok, gonna pepper and balance him out. Got a batch of onions and a whooole lot of krakka in the garden. I thought hitting rank 10 I would lose some of my fervor for leveling the guy up but now I just wanna level him up even more.
My Chocobo is level 9, I made him attacker, do you recommend healer?
 

LiQuid!

I proudly and openly admit to wishing death upon the mothers of people I don't like
My Chocobo is level 9, I made him attacker, do you recommend healer?

Depends on what you play as. When I'm playing Dragoon I'm nearly invincible with my healer bird. When I'm playing scholar he is pretty useless. I love my bird as a healer but now that I've got the barding I'm dying to see how he functions when balanced, especially since I've been leveling other classes so it will be nice to switch him into a tank/dps as needed. I think anything higher than choco cure on the healer tree might be overkill, but I might be undervaluing choco surge. I'm not sure. The reagen pepper's ain't cheap so I might try and do a little research before I use it to respec him.
 

Mesharey

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Depends on what you play as. When I'm playing Dragoon I'm nearly invincible with my healer bird. When I'm playing scholar he is pretty useless. I love my bird as a healer but now that I've got the barding I'm dying to see how he functions when balanced, especially since I've been leveling other classes so it will be nice to switch him into a tank/dps as needed. I think anything higher than choco cure on the healer tree might be overkill, but I might be undervaluing choco surge. I'm not sure. The reagen pepper's ain't cheap so I might try and do a little research before I use it to respec him.
You can get it for 20 allied seals.
 

Zhao_Yun

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So my friend wants to try this game and is downloading the free trial on ps4 right now. If he should like the game he plans to get the full game by buying the much cheaper ps3 version and then upgrading to the PS4 version.

The question is whether it's possible to play the trial on PS4, buy the PS3 version and then upgrade to the PS4 version while retaining his character data from the trial? I know this question is kinda specific but maybe anyone here has done this?
 
So my friend wants to try this game and is downloading the free trial on ps4 right now. If he should like the game he plans to get the full game by buying the much cheaper ps3 version and then upgrading to the PS4 version.

The question is whether it's possible to play the trial on PS4, buy the PS3 version and then upgrade to the PS4 version while retaining his character data from the trial? I know this question is kinda specific but maybe anyone here has done this?

The free ps3-ps4 upgrade ended Dec 31st last year... unless they extended it.
 

dcye

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Don't know how people who haven't played in a while can't figure out the "new" tome system - its pretty much exactly the same as it always has been.
 
For bird general spec, I'd recommend 4points in heal for both the regen and the actual heal, then everything dumped in damage. If you're exclusively playing a healer, might as well go full dmg from the start, but the heals are very useful when playing pretty much everything else since they let you solo every FATEs besides the raid ones without any trouble. When I play my scholar I just set it to agressive stance so it doesn't cast any heals and just do damage.
 

IvorB

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For bird general spec, I'd recommend 4points in heal for both the regen and the actual heal, then everything dumped in damage. If you're exclusively playing a healer, might as well go full dmg from the start, but the heals are very useful when playing pretty much everything else since they let you solo every FATEs besides the raid ones without any trouble. When I play my scholar I just set it to agressive stance so it doesn't cast any heals and just do damage.

I tried to make a tank choco but really regretted it. I respecced to healer and it's so awesome. I can solo any FATE pretty much and alex maps without my healer choco would be pretty dicey.
 
I didn't know this and spent the 48k gc seals on it, i was a sad panda when i seen it in the hunt masters list for only 20 seals

Ouch. You spent easily over 300k for something that you can get killing one A rank. Some of the prices in this game are really out of whack.

Like when i90 gear sold for around 20 seals as well. I wish I had stocked up on those to trade for GC seals.

They've been the biggest roadblock in getting the rest of my crafters to 3 star.

Healer choco is da bes choco. With that said, focus on healing and grab good skills from the other trees as some of the later rank skills cost too many SP to be worth it.

Up to level 10 Healer till Chocobo Cure and then DPS till the level 9 skill is best chocobo. After that you can do whatever you want really.
 

orion434

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Ouch. You spent easily over 300k for something that you can get killing one A rank. Some of the prices in this game are really out of whack.

Like when i90 gear sold for around 20 seals as well. I wish I had stocked up on those to trade for GC seals.

They've been the biggest roadblock in getting the rest of my crafters to 3 star.



Up to level 10 Healer till Chocobo Cure and then DPS till the level 9 skill is best chocobo. After that you can do whatever you want really.

Have you been trading in ilv 55 Green Gear for 633 GC Seals? You can generate 1 crafted Ilv 70 mat like Darksteel Ingot by gathering the 3 ingredients for the Madman's Whispering Wand crafted by the Alchemist.

Vampire Plant is 1pm Coerthas - Slot 8
Tharvian Mistletoe is 5pm Coerthas - Slot 2
Trillium Bulb is 9pm East Shroud - Slot 8

You make the Growth Formula Delta from the Trillium Bulb, Each 25 Trade ins will require 150 Water Crystals + 50 Lightning Crystals. You will make 15,825 GC Seals = 10 Coke, so you actually make a little more than 1 crafted mat per Eorzean Day :)
 

Valor

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Up to level 10 Healer till Chocobo Cure and then DPS till the level 9 skill is best chocobo. After that you can do whatever you want really.
This is basically what I would recommend too. Healer chocobo is honestly the most useful, I feel, especially if you're leveling jobs/doing alex maps solo/etc. It's a pretty good healer at rank 10, surprisingly enough. After that I maxed out the dps track, which just makes the chocobo crazy good. Haven't seen a whole lot of use for the tank track yet, but it doesn't matter since it's already pretty awesome.
 
Have you been trading in ilv 55 Green Gear for 633 GC Seals? You can generate 1 crafted Ilv 70 mat like Darksteel Ingot by gathering the 3 ingredients for the Madman's Whispering Wand crafted by the Alchemist.

Vampire Plant is 1pm Coerthas - Slot 8
Tharvian Mistletoe is 5pm Coerthas - Slot 2
Trillium Bulb is 9pm East Shroud - Slot 8

You make the Growth Formula Delta from the Trillium Bulb, Each 25 Trade ins will require 150 Water Crystals + 50 Lightning Crystals. You will make 15,825 GC Seals = 10 Coke, so you actually make a little more than 1 crafted mat per Eorzean Day :)

I looked into that as per your suggestion, but I found something much better. Plus I can't gather that stuff on my own and it was expensive on the MB, far too expensive to make sense IMO.

The market for what I found is pretty limited though. I've already send the prices up 10x on it, but it's still convenient. I would be willing to share via PM, since I'm not ready for it to die just yet.
 
Up to level 10 Healer till Chocobo Cure and then DPS till the level 9 skill is best chocobo. After that you can do whatever you want really.

Cure is 4. Unless you meant 10points, which is the amount for 4 so sounds right. Past 4, the gains are kinda meh, you get the buff but it needs to cast it, gets more mind so you get slightly better heals and medica is like, eh, whatever.
 
Cure is 4. Unless you meant 10points, which is the amount for 4 so sounds right. Past 4, the gains are kinda meh, you get the buff but it needs to cast it, gets more mind so you get slightly better heals and medica is like, eh, whatever.

My wording was sort of unclear. I meant till chocobo level 10, IMO your best bet is healer until you get chocobo cure and then the dps branch until you get the ninth skill.

After that you'll be getting 10 points each time, which greatly opens up your alternatives.
 

orion434

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I looked into that as per your suggestion, but I found something much better. Plus I can't gather that stuff on my own and it was expensive on the MB, far too expensive to make sense IMO.

The market for what I found is pretty limited though. I've already send the prices up 10x on it, but it's still convenient. I would be willing to share via PM, since I'm ready for it to die just yet.

There are several ilv 55 items you can trade in, this one is repeatable and easy to gather if you have Botanist at lv 50. Other players are generating massive Water Crystals from Spiritbonding. This method on average cost 900 gil per trade in if you buy the crystals.

If you go to the GC counter on Ultros you'll see Two Lallafels crafting, take note of what they are making :)
 
Resubbed for 6 months now. Gotta wait 14 minutes to download the updates though. Probably won't get much playing time until I get off of work tonight.
 
There are several ilv 55 items you can trade in, this one is repeatable and easy to gather if you have Botanist at lv 50. Other players are generating massive Water Crystals from Spiritbonding. This method on average cost 900 gil per trade in if you buy the crystals.

If you go to the GC counter on Ultros you'll see Two Lallafels crafting, take note of what they are making :)

Given market prices I'm fairly certain I was the first to find this particular one. Maybe some people are copying now, but I haven't really seen it going by purchasing history.

For the first seals I got the total cost for each phylo mat was about 1200 gil. Average for my first 50k seals I would say it was around 2500 gil per mat.

Right now it's at about 4-6k per mat, so it's still convenient (especially if you need stuff like hardened sap that goes for 12-13k), but not as amazing. I always like to account for the full cost of stuff, even if I make it myself. Opportunity cost and all that.

If I were gathering it's time away from spiritbonding, which right now is more profitable IMO.
 
My wording was sort of unclear. I meant till chocobo level 10, IMO your best bet is healer until you get chocobo cure and then the dps branch until you get the ninth skill.

After that you'll be getting 10 points each time, which greatly opens up your alternatives.

You get +1 point per level. So at 2 you get 2, at 3 you get 3 etc. It follows the progression for skills. So you get enough for Cure at 4. Otherwise you wouldn't have enough points to get chocobo rank 10 at 10 back when you couldn't go higher.
 
You get +1 point per level. So at 2 you get 2, at 3 you get 3 etc. It follows the progression for skills. So you get enough for Cure at 4. Otherwise you wouldn't have enough points to get chocobo rank 10 at 10 back when you couldn't go higher.

I know that. You need 10 points to get cure, which means you can only get the DPS skill up to 9. I think that's the best way to distribute your points until you start feeding onions.

That's what I was saying. Hybrid chocobo is best chocobo.
 

orion434

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Given market prices I'm fairly certain I was the first to find this particular one. Maybe some people are copying now, but I haven't really seen it going by purchasing history.

For the first seals I got the total cost for each phylo mat was about 1200 gil. Average for my first 50k seals I would say it was around 2500 gil per mat.

Right now it's at about 4-6k per mat, so it's still convenient (especially if you need stuff like hardened sap that goes for 12-13k), but not as amazing. I always like to account for the full cost of stuff, even if I make it myself. Opportunity cost and all that.

If I were gathering it's time away from spiritbonding, which right now is more profitable IMO.

There was a reddit post on the cost of every ilv 55 craftable trade-in when the ilv 70 mats went to the GC store. It goes in cycles, at times even Hippogryph Skins dip to below 300 gil each. The important part of the equation is the type of Crystal. In the past week I made about 1500 Madman's Whispering Wands, I bought out the cheap mats at first, but since most are not used in other crafts chances are Vampire Plant / Trillium Bulb are back down to < 100 Gil each.

I'm going back to Spiritbonding ilv 90 sets this week... time to stock up!
 
I know that. You need 10 points to get cure, which means you can only get the DPS skill up to 9. I think that's the best way to distribute your points until you start feeding onions.

That's what I was saying. Hybrid chocobo is best chocobo.

Oh I see what you meant, and yeah that's what I said before, heal to 4/cure then dump in DPS, it's definitely the best.

I'm interested in that item that's better than madman's whispering rods. I could see a few things though not sure how much they go for in terms of GC seals. Militia Choker is 1 hippo 1 raptor sinew, which is fairly low cost overall. Might be a different level though where you make up for a higher price tag with more seals.

That said I'm way too lazy to actually try to do it for profit, I'm mostly considering it for the seals to buy the bombard cores once I get to zodiac.
 

iammeiam

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Dumped all points thusfar into healer spec choco.

No regrets; tank spec chocos can't hold hate for crap and there's nothing in the overworld that demands a DPS assist right now, so I just force him into healer stance and blow things up on my own.

I'd probably feel differently if I spiritbonded more, but I don't. Chocobo is mostly just a crutch for FATES and maps for me at this point.
 

studyguy

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At lvl 14 my chocobo is basically a full DPS w/ healer spec.
The only problem is if you put it into FREE stance it basically ignores healing you till you're sub 30% HP then it throws one regen on you :/
 
There was a reddit post on the cost of every ilv 55 craftable trade-in when the ilv 70 mats went to the GC store. It goes in cycles, at times even Hippogryph Skins dip to below 300 gil each. The important part of the equation is the type of Crystal. In the past week I made about 1500 Madman's Whispering Wands, I bought out the cheap mats at first, but since most are not used in other crafts chances are Vampire Plant / Trillium Bulb are back down to < 100 Gil each.

I'm going back to Spiritbonding ilv 90 sets this week... time to stock up!

Obviously the costs can vary wildly from server to server and the mats can also vary wildly in price over time.

I'm sure the one I used wasn't profitable at that time since one particular mat has come down in price a lot (and now went back up thanks to me a bit), but it's still way, way below what it was at that time.

At lvl 14 my chocobo is basically a full DPS w/ healer spec.
The only problem is if you put it into FREE stance it basically ignores healing you till you're sub 30% HP then it throws one regen on you :/

Lol it's not as bad as that, but yes, if you're trying to solo hard fates you need to manage the choco manually.
 
At lvl 14 my chocobo is basically a full DPS w/ healer spec.
The only problem is if you put it into FREE stance it basically ignores healing you till you're sub 30% HP then it throws one regen on you :/

Hmm that's not how mine works. It puts regen pretty much right away. It doesn't heal until you're at 60% or so though, so it's kinda meh, but switching stance isn't too hard and if you need serious healing you want it in heal stance anyway, as the healing output is a lot higher when all he does is cast heals versus trying to DPS and heal at the same time.

Generally what I did was attacker stance for killing mobs fates and healing stance for boss fates if I was tanking(or obviously attacker if I wasn't). Works perfect. I wish you could just turn off stuff though like you can with the arcanist pets. Would let you turn off everything but regen, cure, dot and stun(and a nuke? is there one?). Don't need aoe heal, aoe damage, heal buff or anything in tank tree.
 

studyguy

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Nah Healer spec can do the job fine (throwing it into Healer will basically solve everything), but a full DPS spec choco in Free stance just doesn't give enough of a fuck about you beyond it's regen 90% of the time. It's too busy tunnel visioning till you're bleeding out your ass. Prob why it's a DRG in its special mount armor.

I have no idea about the tank spec, didn't bother since the armor is 110% junk.
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iammeiam

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Nah Healer spec can do the job fine (throwing it into Healer will basically solve everything), but a full DPS spec choco in Free stance just doesn't give enough of a fuck about you beyond it's regen 90% of the time. It's too busy tunnel visioning till you're bleeding out your ass. Prob why it's a DRG in its special mount armor.

I have no idea about the tank spec, didn't bother since the armor is 110% junk.

Even with all points into healer, free stance is still a recipe for dumb. Not only is he unreasonably stingy with the heals, he has to spend a substantial amount of time healing himself because he's constantly running his dumb ass into cleaves trying to get in those attacks.

Healer stance I can usually get him positioned off to the side so he continues to curebomb me through paralysis/Petrification/whatever in alex maps.
 
Feels good to clear out hard mode dungeons quests that have been sitting in your journal for ages.

I am always surprised when people say that I did well for my first time through a dungeon, because it doesn't really feel like I have done anything special, more like I just did what was necessary to tank in the dungeon instead of optimal play.
 
Feels good to clear out hard mode dungeons quests that have been sitting in your journal for ages.

I am always surprised when people say that I did well for my first time through a dungeon, because it doesn't really feel like I have done anything special, more like I just did what was necessary to tank in the dungeon instead of optimal play.

If you say you're new, especially as a tank, people expect the worst. I don't mean like "did an ok job but lost aggro a few times and didn't dodge that one aoe", but like "have no idea what flash/overpower is". So if you play your role correctly and did a good job, people will tell you you did a good job. It might not have been the fastest speedrun ever, but most people only care about clearing stuff at an acceptable pace, not about beating some world record, so people doing their job well is more than good enough.
 

Alrus

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Feels good to clear out hard mode dungeons quests that have been sitting in your journal for ages.

I am always surprised when people say that I did well for my first time through a dungeon, because it doesn't really feel like I have done anything special, more like I just did what was necessary to tank in the dungeon instead of optimal play.

Terrible tanks make running an otherwise simple dungeon a complete chore for healers (and for the dps too). A lot of new tanks don't seem to know how to play their class properly.
 

studyguy

Member
Even with all points into healer, free stance is still a recipe for dumb. Not only is he unreasonably stingy with the heals, he has to spend a substantial amount of time healing himself because he's constantly running his dumb ass into cleaves trying to get in those attacks.

Healer stance I can usually get him positioned off to the side so he continues to curebomb me through paralysis/Petrification/whatever in alex maps.

I just wish Healer stance didn't stay on your ass.
DPS sits away from you, Free sits away from you, I assume tank does too.
HEALER sits right next to you, eats everything. At least it moves with you if you try and dodge and you can predict where it'll stand.
 

creid

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I never bothered to do the research, and ended up with a rank 10 tank chocobo before realizing it was essentially useless. Finally got it up to rank 10 in healing today, might have it totally maxed in another month or two. Is it wrong that I'm hoping 2.5 is kind of boring so that I don't get distracted from light farming? :V
 

Frumix

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I never bothered to do the research, and ended up with a rank 10 tank chocobo before realizing it was essentially useless. Finally got it up to rank 10 in healing today, might have it totally maxed in another month or two. Is it wrong that I'm hoping 2.5 is kind of boring so that I don't get distracted from light farming? :V

"I don't want to have fun, stop distracting me from nofun"
 
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