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Final Fantasy XIV |OT6| Casino Royale

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studyguy

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I got a bartz card when I did a random trial (was it big keep?) for some last minute poe capping a while back. I didn't even realize it for a few days. Same shit happened with the onion knight when getting my weekly tower clears. I wish the same luck would run with my choco breeding. I'm way, way more interested in that than cards I probably won't use seriously.
 

gryvan

Member
Maybe it's just sampling bias but it was consistent the few times I went into Mumble and didn't bail the fuck out as soon as the specific thing I was there for was over. There's a reason I've spent substantial time in the lobby all of twice. Maybe I caught you guys on a string of bad days, or maybe it is more prevalent than you think and you just don't notice.

And that's why you should come in early in the morning angary and hear me yell at typhoon because he's an ass
 

Sorian

Banned
I got a bartz card when I did a random trial (was it big keep?) for some last minute poe capping a while back. I didn't even realize it for a few days. Same shit happened with the onion knight when getting my weekly tower clears. I wish the same luck would run with my choco breeding. I'm way, way more interested in that than cards I probably won't use seriously.

I got Bartz on my third big keep. Dude is a scrub.
 

WolvenOne

Member
I got Bartz on my third big keep. Dude is a scrub.

Heck, I don't care how bad the card is at this point, I'm only eight away from being able use as many two star cards in my deck as I want.

Yeah, I realize that this doesn't help all that much against NPC's with a lot of 4 and 5 star cards, especially if it's not Plus or Same. Still, every little bit helps.
 

Sorian

Banned
Heck, I don't care how bad the card is at this point, I'm only eight away from being able use as many two star cards in my deck as I want.

Yeah, I realize that this doesn't help all that much against NPC's with a lot of 4 and 5 star cards, especially if it's not Plus or Same. Still, every little bit helps.

I meant he was a scrub because he dropped so easily :p he's alright as a card. I still think Squall is superior for my decks.
 

scy

Member
I often wonder if people are talking about me behind my back, either in mumble, party/FC/LS chat, etc.

I always think I'm a bad and that someone, somewhere takes issue with what I'm doing. It's what pretty much sparks my need to understand everything down to the math involved and always feeling like I'm messing things up.

Maybe I caught you guys on a string of bad days, or maybe it is more prevalent than you think and you just don't notice.

If there's a stream on, there's a high chance something said can be construed as that. But since we usually tell it straight to them when they come back (or just directly in /fc), I'm not really sure how to place it? But, that's also probably the case as well. Edit: Though I also totally get why some people take issue with the streams due to this, especially when it gets said directly in /fc instead of privately / directly to them.

The worst part of the lobby is that there's usually just too many of us. I just assumed that was your primary reason for staying out, it's too dumb and hectic to listen to constantly sometimes. I sometimes mute everyone and just randomly laugh at what I bet was a joke and call someone a shitter. Seems to work fine.
 
Maybe it's a case of me legitimately just missing most of this since I rarely seem to be around when these carries or whatever are happening. But I've never really heard any actual shit talking of GAF folk unless in like super extreme circumstances, like if someone shitposts in the thread and there's discussion about it or if someone is just like not trying and whatever.

I'm sure it does happen, but I think I'm in agreement with Galen that it's not like it's happening all the time. God knows I'm sure it happened after that 3 hours of Ramuh EX where I took the ring for my first clear. When comment is made about something that happens in a run I don't think it's meant with any vitriol or whatever. I feel like the majority of the people that hang out in mumble are nice people but get frustrated sometimes and vent. But it's not like there's like behind the back bullying going on or anything, at least from my perspective. Man it sounds shitty to say like "I've been bullied all my life so I'm qualified to know!", but well I was and that shit tends to stick out to me and I will call people out if I feel like that's the case. Thought sometimes I can get pissed off at people too, but it's only really when I think people have a shitty attitude.

I dunno I'm rambling again but Galen if I said something that ever offended you I apologise. And to Angary, honestly you're a lot more liked than I think you think you are and people would like you to hang out in mumble and we really aren't shitting on you all the time or whatever. Even if you are a Lala :p
 

studyguy

Member
As we regularly experience in our mumble. The best solution to shit talking is to talk shit directly to each other in mumble then hash it out in other titles. Maybe OJ 100%, emulated Dokapon, Mario Party, etc. At least that way you can exact revenge through much more punishing and effective means. That way everyone stays good and mad and we use that to fuel other endeavors: Coil, relics, etc

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scy

Member
"GAF" is basically the catch-all term to mean "some jackass pulled early*."

*Early to be defined approximately 23% into the pull.
 

Stuart444

Member
Well of course that goes on, I just mean like in-mumble overt shit talking.

Haha I know but I had to mention it. I'm kinda glad I wasn't around when hunts were introduced and GAF got this... stigma of being early pullers or whatever.

As for mumble, I don't go in there much unless I'm not doing much/not listening to music. Mainly because I find random talking/discussions can distract me when I'm trying to focus on whatever it is I'm doing lol.
 

WolvenOne

Member
On a different subject.

What classic Final Fantasy Boss fights do we still haven't seen make it into the game? I mean, besides obvious stuff like certain summons and all that.

I'm still hopeful we'll be able to fight against Dancing Calcabrina sometime in the not too distant future.

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rubius01

Member
Maybe it's just sampling bias but it was consistent the few times I went into Mumble and didn't bail the fuck out as soon as the specific thing I was there for was over. There's a reason I've spent substantial time in the lobby all of twice. Maybe I caught you guys on a string of bad days, or maybe it is more prevalent than you think and you just don't notice.

This is honestly why i never go into mumble. I've spent a total of like 2-3 hours there (over a period of like 10-15 times )since September 2013, and every time someone is shitting on some poor pug who didn't know T6, or someone in FC who wasn't in mumble. I personally thought it was disgusting and just stayed out.

idk, maybe I'm just too damn old, but it seems like people don't realize that the mumble lobby is a public space, and you don't say that kind of shit in public. Anyways, seeing all the love here warms my heart. And to throw in, it really annoyed/annoys me when people call me the lone ranger, its just gotten old.
 

Valor

Member
Maybe it's just sampling bias but it was consistent the few times I went into Mumble and didn't bail the fuck out as soon as the specific thing I was there for was over. There's a reason I've spent substantial time in the lobby all of twice. Maybe I caught you guys on a string of bad days, or maybe it is more prevalent than you think and you just don't notice.
Hey man, maybe this is the case. All I can do is be mindful of it and try to curb any going forward coming from me. Like I said, I don't want to be part of the problem.
Angary declared me her nemesis so I should be allowed to continue shit talking right? Isn't that the rule?
Yeah, it's in the bylaws. Have at it.
 

Stuart444

Member
On a different subject.

What classic Final Fantasy Boss fights do we still haven't seen make it into the game? I mean, besides obvious stuff like certain summons and all that.

I'm still hopeful we'll be able to fight against Dancing Calcabrina sometime in the not too distant future.

FF4PSP_Enemy_Ability_Glare.png

Sephiroth (lol), Four fiends... maybe Quetzalcoatl from FFVIII? I would love to face him :D
 
On a different subject.

What classic Final Fantasy Boss fights do we still haven't seen make it into the game? I mean, besides obvious stuff like certain summons and all that.

I'm still hopeful we'll be able to fight against Dancing Calcabrina sometime in the not too distant future.

FF4PSP_Enemy_Ability_Glare.png

I'd love if they put Ultimecia's Castle in as a raid. Would be awesome. Still one of the best dungeons in the entire series.
 

hitgirl

Member
Does the PC version gave the same controller support and UI supprt as PS4? Not sure what vers to get, my pc is more powerful.
 

Stuart444

Member
I'd love if they put Ultimecia's Castle in as a raid. Would be awesome. Still one of the best dungeons in the entire series.

That'd be cool and it'd be pretty big with quite a few possible bosses so yeah. I'd love that too.

Does the PC version gave the same controller support and UI supprt as PS4? Not sure what vers to get, my pc is more powerful.

Yes, I'm using a controller with the same UI you get on the PS3/4.
 

WolvenOne

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Sephiroth (lol), Four fiends... maybe Quetzalcoatl from FFVIII? I would love to face him :D

Four Fiends, or some Four Fiends analogue, would be awesome, especially if you have to do a gauntlet battle against all four back to back a second time later one. This however would probably be most ideal for a 24 man Raid, since those seem to be where they're putting nostalgic recreations.

Quetzalcoatl would be an awesome Primal Battle! XD

Sephy? Nooo no no. Besides, FFXIV's Sephy was Nael.

I'd love if they put Ultimecia's Castle in as a raid. Would be awesome. Still one of the best dungeons in the entire series.

Oh, good one. Though I suspect that'd be another 24 man dealio, unless it was just the aesthetic they copied and called it something else.
 

Jayhawk

Member
A future raid series should involve the Scions as the bosses with Minfilia as the final boss.

Ultimecia's Castle was mostly memorable because it involved having to unlock things. I don't think the game's system would work well with that type of mechanic. Salvage in FFXI was similar to Ultimecia's Castle in that everybody's stats, gear, spells, abilities and gear were locked away at the start. You had to kill specific mobs in the dungeon for item drops to unlock things that you would need to beat the bosses later on in the dungeon.
 

scy

Member
Hm...

Trying to think if there's any other "iconic" boss design that we haven't faced yet. I'm going to settle with space pope for the time being until I can think of one.

Certainly that makes more sense, but as always JP is steps ahead of the western community.

To be honest, I'd sort of expect people in DF to also have _some_ understanding. My personal outlook on it is that it's just a case of respecting everyone else's time. That said, I'm not terribly surprised when people don't know things for whatever reason since different priorities, opinions, etc. etc. Just deal with what you get, for the most part.

Of course, I'm definitely "that guy" who's venting to myself / Mumble / a stuffed animal about a DPS doing nothing, or a tank that takes minutes between pulls, or the healer that is AFK auto-following.

idk, maybe I'm just too damn old, but it seems like people don't realize that the mumble lobby is a public space, and you don't say that kind of shit in public.

So is FC chat and yet far more shittalking occurs there as far as abusing randoms is concerned but nobody seems to care (except for me, oddly I guess). I consider Mumble, even the lobby, far more private than FC chat but maybe I'm mistaken.
 

Frumix

Suffering From Success
I pretty much just want the Four Fiends of Golbez, Warring Triad (though that is obviously coming now) and Shinryu. I don't suppose we'll ever get Shinryu if not in Heavensward, what's with it being all about dragons.
I had wanted Phoenix to be in then it happened out of goddamn nowhere.
 

WolvenOne

Member
I'd say a Primal version of Fenrir, since magic wolves are flipping awesome, (I'm biased, I admit,) but he's kinda taken already. Maybe have a twin Primal Fight, where people simultaneously have to fight off two primals called Skoll and Hati?

Not exactly iconic, but it'd be awesome.

I also heard somebody suggest Anima, from FFX. Not quite iconic but, it'd work.
 

iammeiam

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The idea of a raid culminating in killing Minfilia is too good. I hate each and every one of you for dangling that possibility in front of me.


The worst part of the lobby is that there's usually just too many of us. I just assumed that was your primary reason for staying out, it's too dumb and hectic to listen to constantly sometimes. I sometimes mute everyone and just randomly laugh at what I bet was a joke and call someone a shitter. Seems to work fine.

No, it's always 100% been because hanging out in Mumble results in hearing things that make me want to punch people. I thought I'd been pretty open about it--#fuckmumble, etc--otherwise boredom and/or curiousty would have forced me back in by now.
 

Stuart444

Member
A great primal or even 24-man raid would be the Knights of the Round summon. If not a primal fight then a raid which involves several of them as bosses in each tier.

Now that would be fun :D
 

scy

Member
I stopped reading after this statement because it was the most adorable/sad image ever.

My dog started looking at me funny.

No, it's always 100% been because hanging out in Mumble results in hearing things that make me want to punch people. I thought I'd been pretty open about it--#fuckmumble, etc--otherwise boredom and/or curiousty would have forced me back in by now.

Well, no, I know that now. I meant awhile back when you first just stayed out.
 

rubius01

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So is FC chat and yet far more shittalking occurs there as far as abusing randoms is concerned but nobody seems to care (except for me, oddly I guess). I consider Mumble, even the lobby, far more private than FC chat but maybe I'm mistaken.

Perhaps you're right, I haven't noticed, but I don't read everything that is typed in FC chat. Maybe I haven't noticed because its more spread out than the two dozen or so people in mumble. Its definitely something I'll be keeping an eye out for.

Its one thing to vent because you were in a trollish, especially bad group ( I mean stuff like the tank thinking he's a dps, a dps doing pulls and won't listen, etc). That doesn't happen that often really. Its another thing completely shittalking people who aren't "pros".
 

WolvenOne

Member
I want to fight Ark. Just like punch the fuck out of a boat.

Do we have a Hades yet?

I don't think we have Hades yet. Also, before we can punch a boat, we need to be able to suplex a train.

A great primal or even 24-man raid would be the Knights of the Round summon. If not a primal fight then a raid which involves several of them as bosses in each tier.

Now that would be fun :D

A set of Knight have already been mentioned as a major plot point for Heavensward, so we may see the XIV analog soon.
 

WolvenOne

Member
I'm the only one who only gets Keeper of the lake on the Expert dunegon roulette?. 4 times on a row...

Not that I complain a lot, is quite short.

For me it's Keeper, or AK HM, with a distinct tilt towards Keeper. I, honestly cannot remember WP HM too well, I'm not sure I've ran it since patch week. <_<;;
 

Jayhawk

Member
The idea of a raid culminating in killing Minfilia is too good. I hate each and every one of you for dangling that possibility in front of me.

No, it's always 100% been because hanging out in Mumble results in hearing things that make me want to punch people.

Thanks for confirming your hatred of me and your desire to punch me. &#65377;&#65439;( &#65439;&#2951;&#8248;&#2951;&#65439;)&#65439;&#65377;
 
You shouldn't generalize Mumble as a whole. There are plenty of great people that hang out there. I've seen just as bad or worse things happening in Free Company chat at times. I wouldn't say one is any better than the other. We police Mumble and Free Company chat as much as possible but we don't want to be too restrictive and we can't always be around all the time. Most people will agree that problematic users are dealt with swiftly and our line of communication is always open for those that want to reach out to us about problems or issues.

Edit: I do know that Mumble Lobby likes to watch other people stream and can get carried away. This might seem malicious to outsiders at times and could make others feel anxious or unwelcome. Let's try to dial this back a bit, please.
 

Sorian

Banned
I'm going to get banned for my FC chat hijinks, I can feel it. Or maybe not, I have all the dungeon cards now so I can go back to not caring about going into dungeons with randoms.
 

iammeiam

Member
THIS IS A TERRIBLE START TO THE PAGE AND I AM SORRY.

Its one thing to vent because you were in a trollish, especially bad group ( I mean stuff like the tank thinking he's a dps, a dps doing pulls and won't listen, etc). That doesn't happen that often really. Its another thing completely shittalking people who aren't "pros".

See that sounds like 90% of end game tanks to me. I swear tanks in raids get more hyped up by their own DPS than half the DPS I've seen. Especially warriors, who I assume are dealing with SCOB solo-tank irrelevancy PTSD.
 
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