Forbes: Marathon Info - Bungie's "Morale is in “free-fall” - “The vibes have never been worse.”

If she is smart, she would take her time to find a hotshot lawyer willing to do this for a percentage of the settlement and no upfront cost. Brand identity is worth 6 or even 7 figures
Even continuing using the assets on a loan-type agreement for being a placeholder should net some neat bucks.
 
True.

OT, but BF is shaping up to be amazing from the tiny bits that I've seen.
I will add a couple of things I took away from that stream yesterday that, to me, was concerning

The statement they made of wanting teams to be able to talk to other teams but they didn't know how to go about that

What is proximity chat Alex?

Also I didn't hear them talk much about tuning for solo play but granted I took a phone call so maybe I missed them addressing that
 
From Halo to here. Boy did this studio royally fuck itself up. I loved Destiny 1, Destiny 2 was "ok" depending on which expansion you played on, but Halo era bungie? That's an incredible time to live and play.

Marathon will absolutely be a Concord 2.0. No matter the changes they make now, or delay, etc. The public has decided.

GG.
 
I will add a couple of things I took away from that stream yesterday that, to me, was concerning

The statement they made of wanting teams to be able to talk to other teams but they didn't know how to go about that

What is proximity chat Alex?
Yeah and as I said, it should be a basic feature for any and all multiplayer game. I fully agree that there is no logical reason for Bungie to not just implement it.

I just don't think the lack of proximity chat will be a big hurdle. At least not on consoles.
Also I didn't hear them talk much about tuning for solo play but granted I took a phone call so maybe I missed them addressing that
They haven't made any final decisions yet.
Iirc they are going to make some adjustments for 1vX and such. If I'm not mistaken they were talking about adjustments to the shield for example.
 
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The artstyle that was stolen is dogshit, it is hilarious that they thought that was a good thing to rip off. Bungie gonna go the way of the dodo errrm firewalk, just watch. Haven, same.
 
Man, what happened to Bungie.
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LOL good. This game looks like absolute trash with weird lookin designs and saw some gameplay lookn bad as well. Not surprised their morale be down.
 
This game might be able to beat Concord....

Man, you know people were taking the piss initially about it being Concord 2.0 but, after all the latest fiascos....it really does seem like it's gonna share the same fate.

At this point, I don't know what they could do to salvage this,I mean, the bad word of mouth has already tainted the game to the point that even a big delay wouldn't do much for them...
Rebooting it completely ? they must have already spent North of a couple of hundred million dollars so throwing more money at the problem wouldn't do much.

It really sucks to be them right now
 
Wondering if they have to release the game soon no matter what as if they fail to meet financial targets Sony takes control of the company.
Sony Interactive Entertainment completed its acquisition of Destiny developer Bungie in July 2022. Bungie at the time stated it would "continue to independently publish and creatively develop" their games with its own board of directors.

Bungie could be under threat at losing its independence, according to multiple sources who spoke with IGN.

The sources claim they were told by leaders that the current split board structure could be dissolved by Sony if Bungie fails to meet certain financial thresholds by too great an amount. Sony would then be able to take full control of the developer.
 
But but but proximity chat can be toxic and we must protect all the feels.

Let bungie die. It's a disgrace

Bit extreme don't you think?

Just reskin the game, and pay the artist some restitution.

Noone with half a brain would expect to heavily plagiarize another artists work and it not be noticed, so acting like this is some sort of "strategy" on Bungie's part is implausible to say the least. Its way more likely a single bad-actor taking short-cuts while working remotely.

So suggesting the entire studio suffer because of one bad actor is pretty insane, especially those people outside the art team.
 
I almost want Sony to have two major mega-bombs in a row of this awful live-service push, because it would tangibly show leadership that people want the PS games of yore. Repeat the best of the PS3 and PS4 generation first-party. We've wasted so much time on shit like this… how many millions and years of time did ND waste on Last of Us Online? My god we've lost like an entire console generation of precious exclusives. No interest at all in PS5 yet, and we're into the fifth year of the cycle.
 
A shame, I really had high hopes for Marathon when it was announced. I even was willing to give it's art direction a chance, odd as it is.
 
Bungie acquisition is the WORST MISTAKE in gaming history.....nothing comes close to this train wreck....4 Billion dollar, for what exactly?!?

then they advised Sony to buy Firewalk Studio which by itself one of the worst mistakes Sony made. Absolute total disaster
 
Man, you know people were taking the piss initially about it being Concord 2.0 but, after all the latest fiascos....it really does seem like it's gonna share the same fate.

At this point, I don't know what they could do to salvage this,I mean, the bad word of mouth has already tainted the game to the point that even a big delay wouldn't do much for them...
Rebooting it completely ? they must have already spent North of a couple of hundred million dollars so throwing more money at the problem wouldn't do much.

It really sucks to be them right now
Weeks back, I was actually willing to give the game a shot, maybe make it my second extraction shooter that I play (the first was a short test of Marauders Hunt: Showdown in Early Access) and might actually get into. Even thought that it was too early to call it a Concord 2.0, at least in the sense that it would have to release and catastrophically bomb and get cancelled shortly after launching to qualify as that.

Now? You could argue that Marathon is something worse, given everything surrounding it. If it all just goes up in smoke, fuck it. There's other games to play, multiplayer or otherwise.
 
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Imagine being in charge of PR, the community manager or whatever, and still having to lie your balls off with hype posts and pretend all this isn't happening.

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Kojima is probably seething with jealousy that the best he managed to get out of Sony was the opportunity to hang out with celebs while Bungie got billions.
 
This could end up being a blessing for Bungie. All this talk about stolen assets has shifted focus away from the game just not being any good. And nothing they said yesterday stokes any confidence that they will fix it.

They seem to have abandoned the idea of single or duos being balanced in any way. That and a lot of other stuff makes it seem like this is them trying to make the most casual friendly extraction shooter ever.
 
And to think, they have Destiny on their hands, a well established IP with a sufficient fan base.
Yet they decided to go with the esthetically shallow trend chasing shooter, 5+ years late to the party.

Bungie should have gone the other way around. As Destiny is already a GaaS, they needed a AA single player 10 hour shooter based on the destiny mechanics at 50€ as an one and done project to test the waters.
 
I was looking for you in this thread PeteBull PeteBull

Always making sure that the Woke monster can't hurt us

I am eager to spot you in more woke-bait threads. It is quite fun anticipating your comments and then seeing them play out exactly as expected.
Hey, im there where im needed, dont wanna hear/read the sad and hurtful truth, instead prefer to live in ur tiny woke bubble where no1 knows what is a woman - we got a forum for such ppl, its called reset-box-era 360 :D
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What happens if (when) it bombs? I assume Bungie doesn't get shut down because of Destiny 2 but I doubt Sony is going to invest hundreds of millions of dollars more into Destiny 3.

Sony will probably take control of the entire studio and what they can develop if it fails.
 
I'm going to say it...

Bungie should've accepted Microsofts offer to buy them instead of Sony's, cause it's clear they can't make decisions on their own.

The only time Bungie thrived was when a publisher was telling them what to do.

Bungie with Microsoft: Halo
Bungie with Activision: Destiny 1 and early Destiny 2.

When Bungie left Activision, Destiny 2 went to shit and now Marathon is fumbling too.
 
Bit extreme don't you think?

Just reskin the game, and pay the artist some restitution.

Noone with half a brain would expect to heavily plagiarize another artists work and it not be noticed, so acting like this is some sort of "strategy" on Bungie's part is implausible to say the least. Its way more likely a single bad-actor taking short-cuts while working remotely.

So suggesting the entire studio suffer because of one bad actor is pretty insane, especially those people outside the art team.
No, this one doesn't bug me so much. Pay the artist and move on. Their direction over the past few years has caused me to pretty much abandon all hope in them. They need a total reboot.
 
The game could be salvageable but it needs delayed and reworked some

The worst thing (in my eyes) they could have done yesterday was come on stream and act like some things needs fine tuning but we are good to launch

Its not even close to being a real game to compete with ARC Raiders

And I know people can play more than one game but I am willing to bet not a lot play both Marathon and ARC

Also there is a strong feeling we get a new Battlefield reveal early in June and it launching close to this window

And I can promise BF right now not even announced was more fun to play than the Marathon Alpha was (for me)
I think, theoretically, any competent and harmonious studio can salvage any project. at this point... i dunno if i can say Bungie is any of those things.

can they make the game better? yes.
can they make something exceptional? i don't think so. I think marathon is fundamentally crippled, they would need to rework the core desing...They would need more than 1 year.
 
Are they ever going to share the names of the individual(s) who did the plagiarizing so other people know to stay away from hiring them?
 
I think, theoretically, any competent and harmonious studio can salvage any project. at this point... i dunno if i can say Bungie is any of those things.

can they make the game better? yes.
can they make something exceptional? i don't think so. I think marathon is fundamentally crippled, they would need to rework the core desing...They would need more than 1 year.
I was willing to give this game the benefit of the doubt, but the art thing has completely fucked them and the stream last night was just plain weird. I concede, without a major delay and a rework this game is fucked.

The fact that they couldn't show any footage yesterday on stream means the just don't know how much art has been lifted from other(s).

I don't think they are being entirely honest either, they have blamed this on a nameless grunt who doesn't work there anymore. LOL fuck off how stupid do you think we are?

I will say this. The artist whose work has been stolen has played this all wrong. Much better to wait until the product launched then sue the fuck out of them.
 
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