WindowsCentral: Bungie's Marathon is doomed

I'm a coffee guy and kinda don't like hot chocolate so ..


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Played a few games of Arc Raiders and watched 15 minutes of Marathon.

  • More variety in world assets in AR
  • Better art style in AR imo
  • More interesting backstory/ world in AR
  • Not as good gunplay as in . Marathon.
Bungie should go for a more grounded and realistic visual presentation. They have the gunplay from destiny, the just need to wrap it up nicely
 
You know what's funny/ironic gents ? That people are arguing between which of the 2 upcoming, generic slop is best/worst than each other, meanwhile, this :



...looks 10x more exciting since the art-direction is out of this world - an unholy marriage between Armored core, Metal Gear and Attack on Titan, shame that it will most probably spend the better half of a decade in alpha/beta like most of these PC centric titles usually do and also never see a console release.

Ive had a drink but is this post like 4D chess?

That game looks like Kojima's illegitimate retarded kid made a game to piss of his dad.
 
Bungie will somehow outlive Jez, methinks. They have a 'talent' to somehow 'salvage' games even after disasters on launch.

Not a fan of the extraction genre in general here, btw.
 
Ive had a drink but is this post like 4D chess?

That game looks like Kojima's illegitimate retarded kid made a game to piss of his dad.

I get that you're trying to be humorous and everything but, Forever Winter at least has a solid art style.

Played 3 matches of Arc Raiders and... everything looks and plays so vanilla, so boring, so generic that I deleted it immediately.
Drones, ball servos and turrets for enemies ? World that looks like a spin on Bethesda's Fallout ?
I think the only way you could have fun with it is if you're middle-aged and solely get it to play it with the boys® at night before your wife enters the room slapping you in the face with a slipper for being too loud on the mic 😉
I just found it to be oh so very soulless and boring.

As for Marathon, I have no opinion on how it plays but, the esthetics are at least on point for me since I do like minimalistic shit and Bungie's graphic designers/artists are top notch - just seeing the various corpo logos make me hard.Music also sounds good to me so the only thing that's left is the gameplay which I obviously haven't tried.
 
They're acting like creating a shooter is this ultra sensitive technical thing, remember gen 7 and all those shooters? Makes that ps3/360 hell Wii with conduit and goldeneye look like they were on steroids. You'd think making halo games they would know what to do, bungie didn't become good by accident and the equipment is better today there's no way a game should be looking as bad as marathon that looks likes an autistic kids coloring book.

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Let's be honest: Marathon fucking sucks. Yeah it looks snazzy with its UI/aesthetics and it has a cool soundtrack but the gameplay (you know, the thing people boot up a game for) just absolutely sucks golf balls through a garden hose. It's going to be a disaster when it launches and it's going to be another catastrophic failure added to Sony's multiplayer track record.

Maybe this is the time these idiots realize that single player games is what made Playstation big and they finally stop chasing the live service dragon.
 
Who offered Bungie to develop this game? Sony? Or it had been in development before they joint the Japanese corporation?
They've been doing whatever the hell they want while Sony pony up the cash, that purchase was the worst deal ever
 
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This man doesn't just have Phil's balls in his mouth, he has the whole shaft, taint and ass hole too.
I like listening to him when he is on Colin Moriarty's podcast as Colin doesn't really let up with the Microsoft bias bullshit and gamepass wankfest that Jez loves to go on about but in saying that, he seems like a genuinely nice guy who is just a console fanboy, even though he will simp for anything Microsoft INCLUDING stating exclusives are crap (cause Microsoft now says they are)!

As for the Marathon is doomed stuff, we will find out once it's out I suppose. No one really knows but this reeks of Microsoft bias even though it is coming out on Xbox Series consoles... but not on gamepass!
 
Let's be honest: Marathon fucking sucks. Yeah it looks snazzy with its UI/aesthetics and it has a cool soundtrack but the gameplay (you know, the thing people boot up a game for) just absolutely sucks golf balls through a garden hose. It's going to be a disaster when it launches and it's going to be another catastrophic failure added to Sony's multiplayer track record.

Maybe this is the time these idiots realize that single player games is what made Playstation big and they finally stop chasing the live service dragon.

Why would they stop? Since they've started they've already created one of the top 10 most played GAAS Games. A couple more and they'll be sitting pretty.
 
They're acting like creating a shooter is this ultra sensitive technical thing, remember gen 7 and all those shooters? Makes that ps3/360 hell Wii with conduit and goldeneye look like they were on steroids. You'd think making halo games they would know what to do, bungie didn't become good by accident and the equipment is better today there's no way a game should be looking as bad as marathon that looks likes an autistic kids coloring book.

Who is left a Bungie from the glory years?

I think that has a lot to do with why their games have slowly gotten worse and riddled with microtransactions.

The Bungie of 2001 would never make this kind of half-baked extraction loot shooter that appears to be mediocre in all aspects outside of the gunplay. Truth be told, I am rather amazed by the number of devs they have working on this product considering what the product looks and plays like.
 
Is this true or is Jez just pushing MS' line
what a shit take

what even would MS line be here? Both games will be on Xbox... and Xbox is third party now anyway

he is right though, Marathon is in trouble

edit: but yes Helldivers 2 shits on both these games anyway
 
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Honestly, I was worried about Marathon, but if Jeremiah de L'Opposite Land is saying it's doomed, I'm sure it'll be fine.
 
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Poor Jez, still fighting a war that doesn't exist anymore and reacting to bad news with this stuff showing to be a total manchild.
After this article Bungie can feel more relaxed, the opposite of what these people state always happens :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 
Marathon have graphics as if it was randomly generated instead of created by someone with a story to tell. The loot looks boring, the weapons design are like blocks of minecraft, the character designs are unappealing and the environment is just depressing.

No wonder half of the alpha players abandon the game on the second day.
 
Well, yeah. Game's looked questionable since it was announced, and every time Bungie talks about it, it somehow looks worse.

Marathon is Bungie's next big game, meant to drive the next decade as a studio. It's Sony's next big AAA GaaS, meant to rake in billions from its players. Their leadership were nervous when people didn't love the gameplay reveal so they lifted the NDA to get positive word of mouth flowing from their handpicked players. And those handpicked players basically said "Meh". Game's cooked.
 
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It's okay Sony, you should totally power through it, ignore all the warning signs and overwhelmingly negative sentiment. I'm sure it'll be different this time.
 
I get that you're trying to be humorous and everything but, Forever Winter at least has a solid art style.

Played 3 matches of Arc Raiders and... everything looks and plays so vanilla, so boring, so generic that I deleted it immediately.
Drones, ball servos and turrets for enemies ? World that looks like a spin on Bethesda's Fallout ?
I think the only way you could have fun with it is if you're middle-aged and solely get it to play it with the boys® at night before your wife enters the room slapping you in the face with a slipper for being too loud on the mic 😉
I just found it to be oh so very soulless and boring.

As for Marathon, I have no opinion on how it plays but, the esthetics are at least on point for me since I do like minimalistic shit and Bungie's graphic designers/artists are top notch - just seeing the various corpo logos make me hard.Music also sounds good to me so the only thing that's left is the gameplay which I obviously haven't tried.
Spot on fella.

Personally I think Marathon will do better.


This board reminds me of my mum and dad, wrong most of the time but i still love them.
 
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They are probably both going to suck

Marathon is just an IP hijacked so people talk about it, even with drama. And the thing that both have in common in the extraction mechanic that the big corpos THINK is the next big thing.

But they are wrong: BF extraction mode failed and CoD Extraction mod failed too. The thing about extraction shooter is that is sounds like a good concept but it the people that most enjoy it are streamers and people more hardcore that are really into in, but the latter are already on other games like Tarkov.

"normies" or main stream people wont like it: they will quit the moment they lost their stuff because some outmatched them because of frustration. Battleroyales are different because your progress doesnt carry over so you dont "lose" anything when dying. At worse you will lose you big loadout that you would have lost either way because the match ended, in contrast to losing the rifle that you struggle to get and it helped you to get through some matches.
 
You know what's funny/ironic gents ? That people are arguing between which of the 2 upcoming, generic slop is best/worst than each other, meanwhile, this :



...looks 10x more exciting since the art-direction is out of this world - an unholy marriage between Armored core, Metal Gear and Attack on Titan, shame that it will most probably spend the better half of a decade in alpha/beta like most of these PC centric titles usually do and also never see a console release.

100% correct, forever winter looks amazing, im sad its not on console
 
Personally I think Marathon will do better.
It doesn't have to be right now, but I have to hear your rationale for this.

I feel like Marathons only advantages right now are art style and potential 4th map trump card - and that hinges on Embark not having something interesting of their own. Everything else seems to be in ARC Raiders favor (map design, playstyle variety, AI, proxy chat, water cooler moments, more fruitful dev time, public sentiment).

What is the argument for Marathon?

(Post written by someone who has 0.00 hours played in either game)
 
This game and other gaas by Sony and the purchase of bungie and firewalk are really a bad move by Sony. Money and talent wasted. Sony should have purchase a better development team from Japan like Konami or Square or Sega or Yoko Taro and his team or Platinum games. And should have revive OG PS franchise titles and sequels.
 
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Now do Marathon

Sure.

The reveal trailer for Marathon was clearly pure CGI. It wasn't made to look like gameplay:



So, the latest gameplay reveal is far less surprising that the fidelity isn't the same:



Better yet find out how Marathon was supposed to look and how they ditched it to go with the current style according to the devs

The two videos above show essentially the same style. I don't recall ever seeing something publicly how it was supposed to look. Care to share any links/details?

The only thing I did notice is that the aesthetic is clearly inspired by and probably even driven by the folks who did that Love, Death & Robots episode---compare:

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You know which other game has a retro 80's scifi aesthetic? Concord. I dont think this has any bearing on the success of a game.

Ive been trying out ARC raiders but so far its not interesting to me. It could be the game or the genre itself.
 
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