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Formula 1 2017 Season |OT| Japanese Horror Story - Sundays on Sky
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If you assume everyone's as incompetent as the BRDC, sure.
Hydranockz
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Huh, that sounds pretty cool!
I like what liberty is bringing to F1. Time to blow off the dust and cobwebs of this thing and make it more attractive to the fans.
brotkasten
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This is great and all. But how does this anything for the real Formula 1 audience?
These young people and the ones with lower income will see the Rolex brand, but are they going to go and buy one? They can't afford it. And the other sponsor, UBS — these kids don't care about banking. They haven't got enough money to put in the banks anyway. They should rather get to the 70-year-old guy who's got plenty of cash. So, there's no point trying to reach these kids because they won't buy any of the products here and if marketers are aiming at this audience, then maybe they should advertise with Disney.
Fan events, pah.
Blocked in Australia, calling it now
Bernie was such an idiot. It is exactly this kind of stuff that grows and expands your audience. It also humanizes your sport by making the drivers and teams more relatable by allowing them to show some personality. This quote shows exactly where the priorities were. All Bernie wanted was to gather as much money he could as quickly as he could find it, money for himself, money for CVC, money for the sponsors. All Liberty wants is to increase the audience so the sport grows and with it the money they can make from it in the long term.
Bernie was a great businessman, but I wish he cared more about the sport itself in the last decade of his run.
Hydranockz
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I can watch Wimbledon with the Rolex brand and can imagine a not-too-faraway universe where I pick up a tennis racket after it. I can watch soccer and not care about Barclay's.
The key point: it's super easy to watch that stuff, regardless of #brands.
The key point: it's super easy to watch that stuff, regardless of #brands.
BMW has confirmed their Season 5 Formula E entry.
Just waiting for Porsche and Merc now.
This rumour has been going around for a while, the idea is that Marchionne would see it as a big get if McLaren were to run Alfa Romeo badged Ferrari power units.
But unless the deal with Mercedes falls through it's not going to happen.
Just waiting for Porsche and Merc now.
This rumour has been going around for a while, the idea is that Marchionne would see it as a big get if McLaren were to run Alfa Romeo badged Ferrari power units.
But unless the deal with Mercedes falls through it's not going to happen.
Formula E is dead to me.
I don't want to follow a sport that has a race every month or so, with shit tracks and slow cars, and one driver dominating (and even he prefers to drive another class over F-E, so what does that tell you about the validity of the sport).
I find very little redeeming qualities in Formula E.
I don't want to follow a sport that has a race every month or so, with shit tracks and slow cars, and one driver dominating (and even he prefers to drive another class over F-E, so what does that tell you about the validity of the sport).
I find very little redeeming qualities in Formula E.
bobnowhere
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Bit surprised Volvo hasn't jumped yet, they are/were involved at an advisory level and with their announcement that they are going fully hybrid, no time like the present.
Berne is gone now but in the recent years, classic tracks struggled to pay the demanded (rising) price while other new tracks got heavy aid of the governments who want more attention (arab countries, Asia).
brotkasten
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I really want to like Formula E and followed the first season closely, but the irregular schedules and races on Saturdays put a stop to it. I'm still excited for the sport in general and can't wait for it to evolve further and see the new chassis in action. I find the Roborace really interesting, too. But they need to nail down a proper schedule with races that are more than once a month on average. 9 races stretched throughout one year is terrible.
They announced the 2017/2018 season with 11 races. That makes the calendar at least a bit more bearable, with some races being only two weeks apart. I hope the grid is going to be more competitive by then as well.
xrnzaaas
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I wouldn't be surprised if they received an okay to do this at the last minute (after all some serious forces need to be mobilised in case of terrorist attacks). Anyway a really cool initiative.
Wellington
BAAAALLLINNN'
I guess I am in the minority. I thought the race was awesome and had drama start to finish.
1) Someone put both Toro Rosso drivers out to pasture. They are both incidents waiting to happen, took out our boys Max and Ferny.
2) Speaking of Alonso, how on earth was there no investigation on whether he jumped the start or not? He jumped 3 spots before turn 1 lol.
3) Hamilton is such a cry baby. Austria is supposed to be a more abrasive track than the last couple of races, I felt like he was complaining about tires the whole race, meanwhile he was mashing the lap times. Huge difference from Botha's and even Vettel who yes complains but at least doesn't let his performance suffer while doing so.
4) Bottas is ice cold. He is a perfect second driver for MB behind Hamilton. Sign him up!
5) Danny showed in his race IMO that he isn't just lucky when he hits podiums, granted he started ahead of Ham and didn't have to deal with Max. Great job keeping pace as well as defending his position while under attack.
6) Awesome work by RoGro and the Williams duo. The Williams duo in particular had a great race.
7) Quiet day for the FI team tho. They didn't even threaten. Screw Perez tho.
8) I thought the strategy to hold up the pack with Kimi was pretty sound but dropping off the map after that pit stop was not good. You'd have to think they'd want whoever is in that seat to push on the newer tires and threaten for 4th at least.
Fun times, bring on Silverstone! Hopefully MB can hit another 1/2 and really clamp down on the Constructors and putting more pressure on Vet.
1) Someone put both Toro Rosso drivers out to pasture. They are both incidents waiting to happen, took out our boys Max and Ferny.
2) Speaking of Alonso, how on earth was there no investigation on whether he jumped the start or not? He jumped 3 spots before turn 1 lol.
3) Hamilton is such a cry baby. Austria is supposed to be a more abrasive track than the last couple of races, I felt like he was complaining about tires the whole race, meanwhile he was mashing the lap times. Huge difference from Botha's and even Vettel who yes complains but at least doesn't let his performance suffer while doing so.
4) Bottas is ice cold. He is a perfect second driver for MB behind Hamilton. Sign him up!
5) Danny showed in his race IMO that he isn't just lucky when he hits podiums, granted he started ahead of Ham and didn't have to deal with Max. Great job keeping pace as well as defending his position while under attack.
6) Awesome work by RoGro and the Williams duo. The Williams duo in particular had a great race.
7) Quiet day for the FI team tho. They didn't even threaten. Screw Perez tho.
8) I thought the strategy to hold up the pack with Kimi was pretty sound but dropping off the map after that pit stop was not good. You'd have to think they'd want whoever is in that seat to push on the newer tires and threaten for 4th at least.
Fun times, bring on Silverstone! Hopefully MB can hit another 1/2 and really clamp down on the Constructors and putting more pressure on Vet.
Same. Would have been awesome.
Hydranockz
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Hamilton not going to be there? Seems like a missed opportunity for the British fans.
For a lot of drivers the F-E series is 2nd choice due to being a brand new series, and the organizers had to work around other series' schedules. As it grows and gains more importance, I expect the calendar to be more compact, forcing drivers to choose.
Not worried about car performance and calendar issues in the long run. They do have to pick way better tracks though. Mexico works; Battersea Park doesn't; etc.
You often hear people complain about drivers complaining (Button's balance, Grosjean's brakes, Alonso's engine, etc), but to be honest, I think pretty much every driver complains about something not working well. They just choose someone's radio to broadcast at a certain time and leave others out. Hamilton complaining about tires is generally speaking a bit more interesting than whatever issues the Sauber drivers are having for instance.
Not worried about car performance and calendar issues in the long run. They do have to pick way better tracks though. Mexico works; Battersea Park doesn't; etc.
You often hear people complain about drivers complaining (Button's balance, Grosjean's brakes, Alonso's engine, etc), but to be honest, I think pretty much every driver complains about something not working well. They just choose someone's radio to broadcast at a certain time and leave others out. Hamilton complaining about tires is generally speaking a bit more interesting than whatever issues the Sauber drivers are having for instance.
Sauber cancel deal for Honda engines or is Honda cancel deal with Sauber?
It must be bad when Sauber won't take year old Ferrari engines over the 2018 Honda.
Bild in German
It must be bad when Sauber won't take year old Ferrari engines over the 2018 Honda.
Bild in German
brotkasten
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I do think that a lot of issues are growing pains and the series will get over it, as it gets more attractive over the years, with more manufacturers joining in.
Terrible news for Sauber. I hope they can recover.
Wax Free Vanilla
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Honda cancelled because of the recent changes at Sauber.
Red Bull has been sniffing around, they've seen what's coming. Toro Rosso will be powered by Honda next season before the main team switches in 2019 - book it.
Gazzetta Sport says McLaren are trying to get Ferrari PU 😂
That's just Alonso. There are plenty of videos of him making crazy gains in the first lap despite driving a McHonda.
Pure greed. Silverstone have been consistently one of the most expensive GP's for race weekend tickets in the recent era, yet millions of fans will probably feel sorry for them.
More like pure stupidity.
They (BRDC) signed a contract to host the race with fee increasing by 5% each year.
Over 10 years that quite a substantial increase from year 1.
Do you think Honda will be able to finally unleash the beast this season?
I think they need like 3 more seasons to get it right 
That was probably the very best deal Bernie would give them, and it was a terrible deal.
Hopefully this means they can renegotiate.
dl77
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No different tracks pay different fees, though they all escalate over the length of the contract. Certainly the BRDS pay a lot less than most other tracks but the problem is that a lot of other F1 races are subsidised by the government.
Fox Mulder
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Lol Sauber.
It would be really interesting to see Redbull jump on Honda like that. They get to hold hands with Honda and Renault while the new engine regulations are coming soon as well to possibly bring in outside suppliers.
MontyBrown
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Silverstone is so absurdly expensive I'd like to see the UK lose F1.
Each venue pays what it could get away with paying Bernie, all he really cared about was making money so he was fairly happy to play hardball and let the historic races nearly die because he could go to mumbojumbo land and get a ridiculous fee.
I just saw this, not familiar with Auto Bild, but it appears the Sauber-Honda deal is off! Will they be able to stay with Ferrari then or what? The article is in German, with a terrible Google translate below.
http://www.autobild.de/artikel/formel-1-sauber-ohne-motor-11322223.html
http://www.autobild.de/artikel/formel-1-sauber-ohne-motor-11322223.html
nekkid
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
This statement seems like there's a lack of understanding of the details.
I don't feel particularly sorry for them, but they've reduced prices in recent years making them on par (or cheaper) with many other GPs, increased capacity, developed the spectator facilities (it's incredibly well-organised) and the events on display.
It was a shit contract which they were partly stupid and partly desperate to sign.
Anyway, it won't be going away from Silverstone in 2020.
The Best of team radio video is out. Sadly they have post-censored K-Mags swearing
Think Daily Mail, but German.
Psychotext
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I'd go. Would be a great excuse to visit Copenhagen.
FrankCanada97
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Antonio Giovinazzi will be driving for Haas in Free Practice 1 at Silverstone.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWaXhQUHhU1/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWaXhQUHhU1/
nekkid
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
You going?
cookie-monster
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Silverstone is a dreadful track and typically one of the dullest races of the year. The new section made it even worse. I can't wait to see the back of it.
cookie-monster
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I'm disappointed every year so it wouldn't make a huge difference I guess.
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