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Formula 1 2017 Season |OT| Japanese Horror Story - Sundays on Sky
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aspiegamer
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Lewis is... shockingly reasonable/polite/optimistic despite being boned by his pit wall. 2008 was the last time I actually liked both main title contenders. Pleeeeeeeease, settle this on the track and not the pits.
Jezbollah
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Axis nostalgia?
Oh god, haha
king picollo
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This and the fact overtaking doesn't seem easier when following is disappointing.
Fun fact: Vettel's wins only had the German, Italian and Austrian anthem
That's fucking hilarious.
'Bwoah'
theignoramus
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I can see that. I remember them being up Vettels ass as recently as two years ago though and cheering his mistakes because of multi 21
Business
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He was clearly faster than VER and I really doubt VET could have actually passed him on track. They needed to wait until they would be ahead of at least VER after the pit stop, but they covered VET's potential undercut instead. Maybe awful was an overtatement, but it was a clearly a mistake that costed HAM the win.
aspiegamer
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Kimi had equal times the final 10-15 laps, so yeah I'd love to know why he wasn't trying the rest of the race. He's going to actually need podiums if Ferrari want the constructor's title.
This track is always one of the worst for overtaking regardless, but it's true the new regulations are troublesome. More aero = harder to follow and overtake. The final corner splits the cars apart naturally. Final corner at Barcelona does the same and it turns the races there into a bore.
From a voluntary post.
theignoramus
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I knew Vettel had it when Lewis came out behind Verstappen, of all drivers.
I think that Mercedes did not plan so early stop for HAM, but he was all over the radio complaining about tyres - they should wait a lap or two more and they would cover VER. And HAM made a mistake in S1 on his last lap on US, so VET got into one second gap
xrnzaaas
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But the people responsible for managing the race and keeping everything safe aren't volunteers. I really hope it wasn't a directive from Liberty Media to allow the fans to cheer from up close during the victory lap.
He was all over the radio talking about the tyres being death etc.
GrizzleBoy
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I was getting the feeling it was a definite media stunt.
lol Alonso with harsh word there "we are last". Alonso is probably up there with the biggest highs and lows any champion had to deal with in his career ever. From being double champion against the most successful driver of all time to being in one of the worst and most embarressing engine manufacturer comebacks ever
GrizzleBoy
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Hamilton said the decision to pit was his in press conference.
Hamilton would have struggled regardless of the pit strategy. Had fresh tyres and couldn't even get past Verstappen on olds. Lewis just wasn't comfortable out there. Sounded very anxious on team radio.
Not an exciting race by any traditional measure, but I'm really excited to see that Mercedes might have some legit competition now. Reckon some big drama is coming this season. Pressure does funny things to athletes.
Not an exciting race by any traditional measure, but I'm really excited to see that Mercedes might have some legit competition now. Reckon some big drama is coming this season. Pressure does funny things to athletes.
PdotMichael
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Alonso needs some.
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Hamilton has a tendency to think he can do a better strategy from the cockpit than dozens of guys together with all the data.
Psychotext
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Truth.
At the very least they had equal race pace. Vettel was always in control.
It didn't look that comfortable at the beginning tbh.
I miss Button. I miss BUT GRO PER.
That's true I suppose.
That and despite being one of the fastest guys on the track, when his car is running perfectly, he has a notable weakness in crisis management. If there's even a small flaw, he'll focus on that and start making poor judgment calls.
Like today. Tires aren't perfect anymore? Better switch to some with less grip!
While his raw talent is undeniable, he really needs to read the manual for his car. Or trust his team just a little more. This is not the first time a defect or perceived defect has harmed his race much more than it would have harmed his closest competitors with the same error.
Haha, took me a second
GrizzleBoy
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Think we need to get past the whole "Lewis is dumb/doesn't do his homework while everyone else does" thing.
He's struggling with grip with Seb big in his mirrors, the team is telling him to target a time eight tenths faster than the car can go at that point in time.
It's the first race. The race is the homework and they were all learning on the job. By your logic all the people on the pit wall should just have told him they cant stop or hell be stuck in traffic because they have all the data and didn't make the right choice with all the info THEY had.
Unless the pit wall told Lewis he needs to stay out or hell be in raffic and Lewis ignored them, it's just as much on the team. Lewis only knows what's on the rack and in his mirrors. If there's more info it's up to the team to use that extra info and make the proper judgement
Maybe. This is just the first race, yes. Everyone is learning, and Vettel and Ferrari just ran a clean race and everyone else did not.
I just caught myself thinking "Less complaining, more racing!" more than once with Hamilton's radio chatter. Maybe his negative comments are over-represented in the TV feed, but I can see comments on losing grip, even if it's not more than anyone else is losing due to tyre degradation, to be taken a bit too seriously if you're jumpy after seeing that the easy lead of last year isn't going to happen today.
I really do hope he's gotten better at driving when there's a bug or a minor defect. It's a horrible way to lose points, and as last year showed, every single point counts, so be ready to do some in-race improvising when, not if, those gremlins show up.
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