Look like he sharted in front of companyHardly relevant, but this gif is killing me. News anchors reaction to the (small) earthquake today.
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2.nobody bumps Troy Ave till his balls drop. NYC music scene is stuck due to politics... reason those west coast act are poppin is mainly because of the muscle* and $$$ behind it. The old regime still in power old and salty. FREE MAX B ;(
* [see Ebro discuss "x" trap artist crew running up on local DJ's]
Hot97 has been promoting Troy Ave like he's the truth for a while now, while throwing shade at Rocky and French when they're not in front of them. He frequently gets name dropped as the counter-point to NY losing it's identity. I've seen many of their big personalities do it.
I'm not saying they're pumping him like he's the NY's next Jay or something, but relative to every other artist, he's been getting a pretty disproportionate amount of love because he's from NYC. Even moreso than Joey Bada$$.
It's not politics, it's just they don't have anything to bring to the table while others do. Labels see this, rap fans see this.
if he's who they see as the counterpoint then NY would be better off losing their identity.
CountBlack
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Can't believe I downloaded that
Troy Ave tape that you guys gassed up smh. shit was traaaaash. certified recycle bin classic.
Notice how french and rocky both got on without Hot97.
PhoenixDark
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Ebro was a cornball. Hot 97's morning show is getting destroyed by the Breakfast Club and he decided to give his team some buzz by being a heel. But in the end it felt like a Puffy moment, where the executive producer is...all in the videos, all in the conversation, fronting. Fuck that. And to make matters worse his arguments are always on some technical shit. I appreciate hearing about metrics and shit, but yall know nobody else turns into a morning show to hear a combative black man argue numbers with flabby n sick New York rappers.
The problem with New York is two-fold. On one hand they demand New York artists make music that is "catchy" yet stays true to NY, on the other hand they basically demand everything they play caters to a specific sound (ie trap and/or southern). Even simp tracks from NY artists don't get play, regardless of whether they're good records or not. How do you break through when you have a fuckboy program director demanding you make a song like Mercy, and when you do he shits on you for trying to sound like x.
The other issue is a lot of NY artists just don't make good MUSIC. Being good at rap doesn't mean you make good music - that's something NY doesn't understand. You can make a song with a hook without "selling out." Go listen to some 90s Wu, Gang Star, Biggie, Blackmoon, etc and you'll hear dope choruses. You don't hear that in most NY music today, it's just bars and a wack hook (often repeating the same couple lines over and over).
That being said, I think NY has a great scene right now. Marciano, Bronson, Xquire, etc are all dope...but they aren't radio ready. And they don't care. I respect that.
The problem with New York is two-fold. On one hand they demand New York artists make music that is "catchy" yet stays true to NY, on the other hand they basically demand everything they play caters to a specific sound (ie trap and/or southern). Even simp tracks from NY artists don't get play, regardless of whether they're good records or not. How do you break through when you have a fuckboy program director demanding you make a song like Mercy, and when you do he shits on you for trying to sound like x.
The other issue is a lot of NY artists just don't make good MUSIC. Being good at rap doesn't mean you make good music - that's something NY doesn't understand. You can make a song with a hook without "selling out." Go listen to some 90s Wu, Gang Star, Biggie, Blackmoon, etc and you'll hear dope choruses. You don't hear that in most NY music today, it's just bars and a wack hook (often repeating the same couple lines over and over).
That being said, I think NY has a great scene right now. Marciano, Bronson, Xquire, etc are all dope...but they aren't radio ready. And they don't care. I respect that.
Troy Dash
nice hat troy
PhoenixDark
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Troy Ave has some dope tracks and is smart enough not to be rapping over boring mixtape soul loops.
This shit is dope, period
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFxoTjDppE4
The problem is that he doesn't look the part, and he's another NY rapper trying to bring back 90s hair or dress styles. Also dude looks like a baby seal version of Raekwon, bitches aren't checking for that. You can't go anywhere without female fans today, or the potential to gain female fans.
This shit is dope, period
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFxoTjDppE4
The problem is that he doesn't look the part, and he's another NY rapper trying to bring back 90s hair or dress styles. Also dude looks like a baby seal version of Raekwon, bitches aren't checking for that. You can't go anywhere without female fans today, or the potential to gain female fans.
Rastafarian42
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LMFAO
The Return of
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I remember someone here saying Troy Ave looks like if Martin Luther King Jr. and Larry Holmes did the fusion dance
GAF-Hop killing the analogies today, lmao
The Return of
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Got this from Coli lmfao
amazing
amazing
I always wanted to make a smiley/gif to represent that joke but my gimp skills are
Send me the pieces, I can throw it together.I always wanted to make a smiley/gif to represent that joke but my gimp skills are
Same goes for Ghostbusters.
This is me with The Matrix.
Discotheque
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this page is hilarious. between all the troy ave posts and that instagram pic good lord.
Troy ave isnt really worth it.
CountBlack
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ether in its purest form
Net_Wrecker
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To be fair, this nonsense is affecting the entire game aside from a few standouts who can croon to the finish line, or get an R&B hook. For an industry so hook-focused at the mainstream level, hooks are, by and large, awful. Even people who can put together tracks fall victim to the "repeating phrase chorus" like 3 times per album. It sounds like parody hip-hop half the time.
It's weird because, even listening to songs from other eras of hip-hop you see ones with poor hooks don't stand the test of time. Though 2pac wasn't really bad at it when he needed a single, a lot of his extended discography can be a slog as a result of this.
Simply put, there's no excuse for not having hook writing ability. It's an integral part of songwriting, in finding a way to bridge and unify all those bars you're spitting, and you can't just use dead air on every song. Big reason why Run The Jewels and anything from Killer Mike generally fizzles fast too.
nice hat troy
thought you got that from PD's facebook
Dead.
I like Danny's hook game. Kendrick is good too, although some are repeated choruses. Even then, Bitch Don't Kill My Vibe has a terrific chorus.
I have no sympathy for street dudes who maintain this train of thought. Same dudes who won't do an independent label shit even if Mac and Macklemore did it big that way. You're right about the unwritten rules though, there's far too many to even remember.
It's pretty easy to tell people who use this as a scapegoat too. Q was saying every time he goes back to his set, all of his homies ask him wtf he's doing there, he's supposed to have put it in the past. Flocka is probably the only dude who does the hood tour shit.
The Artful Dodger
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Yeah he does. Listen to his EP Str8 Killa, I think that's the one that really sold me on his music when it came out. It's just solid music.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Just first song was a bit faster.. Mostly so I didn't have to do it over the whole song..
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Blackace back, still double posting on fo fos
50 Cent ft. Yo Gotti - Don't Worry 'Bout It. From Em and Dre to doing songs with Yo Gotti =[
50 Cent ft. Yo Gotti - Don't Worry 'Bout It. From Em and Dre to doing songs with Yo Gotti =[
Pickles the Firecat
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Easy to miss with everything dropping lately, but Nocando's record is legit.
toastyToast
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After Pinata I don't give a fuck what else drops. 2014 was a good year
Tokubetsu
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Amen.
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