I don't know if Davos still remembers that. It doesn't seem to bother him at all.
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I don't know if Davos still remembers that. It doesn't seem to bother him at all.
Robdraggoo
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We've only ever seen them in battle once, for about 3 seconds. And they showed up at the end of the battle. Lol
That entire army was for show. Shit someone should have told the High Sparrow so I could have enjoyed watching the Faith Militant beat them with their sticks.
"No stop! Stop! We yield! We yield!"
"Golden roses indeed!"
The Artisan
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I was saying earlier that his family (his wife & Matthos) are like retconned off the show
Nameless
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Margaery was still imprisoned when the Tyrells did there show of force move (still the most badass display of military power in the show). I thought Tommen was already having the High Sparrow influencing his decisions before the bit where Marg got freed. Hell it even looked like she was surprised when Tommen showed up.
This will never not be spectacular.
She was, but Sparrow allowed them to visit. Her surprise was at Olenna and company showing up to save her. Remember the reason she didn't have to take the Walk of Atonement and was released was because she "brought another into the light of the Faith" or whatever non-sense High Sparrow spouted.
That was a really cool scene though. Fucking Mace...
Just pure speculation from fans. We also don't know that it's not true at this point as they haven't gone to the wall yet.
I don't think it's clear at this point.
It was a thing specifically for the cave that the three eyed raven was staying in. I don't know if it applies to the wall.
There would be some inconsistencies either way... like, for example, how a wight got past the wall in season 1 and why did the night king try to kill Bran and the other three eyed raven if he needed them.
It was implied because the old 3 eyed raven said they can get into the magic protected tree fort because Bran was marked.
Yeah you're right. Margaery thought she had a game plan and she never able to see it play out.
Uncle Benjen tol Bran he couldn't get past the wall due to there being magic that keeps his kind out :/
Right, but he never said anything about the wall being affected by that too, that's just something fans speculated might happen. It was never a thing explicitly stated in the show.
Yep. That would be another inconsistency (from the wight attack we saw in season 1). I don't know if there's a way around it that won't have its problems. Like if Bran is really a key for magic barriers, he shouldn't have crossed the wall and I would hope he knows better.
That entire army was for show. Shit someone should have told the High Sparrow so I could have enjoyed watching the Faith Militant beat them with their sticks.
"No stop! Stop! We yield! We yield!"
"Golden roses indeed!"
The vast majority of that army were Tarly and other bannermen who defected.
This is what I forgot. Benjen is like half whitewalker or something. So it implies there is magic guarding the wall.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecps6L5M0Gs
"The wall is not just ice and stone. Ancient spells were cast into its foundations. Strong magic to protect men from what lies beyond. And while it stands, the dead can not pass, I can not pass."
Not just implied. We're straight up told that there is.
He wasn't mad at Brienne after she gloated about decapitating Stannis because he realized it was her right as Renly's sworn protector, so it would make little sense for him to hold a personal grudge against Tyrion for defending the city he was in charge of saving.
There's inconsistency in that.
besides they "why did the wights try to kill bran when he was the key to getting past the wall" theres also the matter of the reanimated wight that freaked everyone out in Castle Black in season 1. They got through. Maybe because it wasn't a wight yet? idk.
The inconsistency is that the writers are seemingly forgetting what the right hand is doing from the left.
You're right in a way. I think he showed some emotion to Brienne, but not to the degree of holding a vendetta. It just seems like his interaction with Tyrion was more cute than anything else considering what happened.
ComputerBlue
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I agree. I also think that Davos, for whatever reason really believes in everything, as much as he disregards the Gods, Meli's methods and so much more, he knows for some reason his purpose is protecting the people, he has zero reason, zero incentive to stick around yet he does. Not only that, but he contributes a lot. So he wouldn't be mad at Tyrion, he knows there are far more important things to concern himself over. Plus, His son died as a casualty of war, really can't pin that on Tyrion.
Let me be more clear: It's never stated in the show that the mark the Night King left on Bran would destroy the magic in the wall and allow the White Walkers to pass. That has so far only been speculation from fans because it did break the magic barrier protecting the Three Eyed Raven's cave. We don't know that this applies to the magic in the wall too.
(It should also be noted that they didn't kill Bran during the cave attack and you could argue they let him escape, and that we haven't seen a wight pass the wall but a corpse of a person who died north of the wall brought south who then turned after the fact, so they wouldn't really be inconsistencies if this does end up being true).
Fenderputty
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Not sure if this has been discussed, but I'm curious what effect Jorah's return will have on the crew. Dany's trust in Tyrion as her hand has to be wavering after his strategic blunders. She got to be getting more desperate too as her forces are now spread thin and her fleet is gone.
Also ... Cersei is an evil and awful person who always hated Tyrion and blamed him for their mother's death. So I don't think her opinion or hatred will change now that she knows he was never guilty in the murder of her son. That being said ... Jamie was just given an entirely new perspective regarding his brother's motives behind killing their father. So I'm curious if Jamie will be just as hell bent as he was on helping Cersei. He should feel no guilt for freeing him now.
Also ... Cersei is an evil and awful person who always hated Tyrion and blamed him for their mother's death. So I don't think her opinion or hatred will change now that she knows he was never guilty in the murder of her son. That being said ... Jamie was just given an entirely new perspective regarding his brother's motives behind killing their father. So I'm curious if Jamie will be just as hell bent as he was on helping Cersei. He should feel no guilt for freeing him now.
That's absolutely possible. But I'd think that the powerful magic barrier that prevents the dead from getting through would also prevent the dead's magic from getting though also - but maybe not. I don't think it's a huge deal at all how that one wight got through. I would be pissed though if Bran basically screwed everyone over again.
Sorry I thought you were stating that the show never explicitly mentioned that the wall had magic build into it. I understand what you mean now.
Patrick Bateman
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Dumb question but what happened to that one guy who helped Daenarys in the earlier episodes? That dark haired good looking dude with the beard.
Daario got left behind so that Dany can focus on conquering and get married if need be for political reasons.
If that's who you're referring to.
Daario was left behind to rule Meereen.
I still can't get over the feeling of relief everytime the map no longer pans to Essos in the intro.
Lol, whitewalkers and impending winter aside, I always forget that most of the Westeros conflict in the series is due to Bran not listening to his mom and climbing that tower.
i think Ned would investigated Jon Arryn's dead anyway
ComputerBlue
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It's not though, it's LF and Lysa Arryn killing Jon Arryn.
Patrick Bateman
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Ah, that's his name.
Thanks guys! I totally forgot what happened to him.
He was a "righteous" man who got a taste of power and learned how to both gain and use it.
Robdraggoo
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A lot of plot threads wouldn't have happened for sure But Ned would have died either way. And that was the catalyst that set so much shit in motion
AndrewDean84xX
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Bran knows Little Finger is responsible for his father's death, right?
Robdraggoo
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I can't imagine he doesn't. I'm going to assume he knows everything the audience knows at this point and more
Which is probably why he's so weird right now. He's seen some shit
Pagusas
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Doesn't he know the future too? I'm confused on that bit.
DarkJediKnight
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Yes. But Cat wouldn't have gone apeshit trying to find the Lannister that tried to kill Bran.
Imagine if Bran (now at winterfell) recognizes Littlefinger's knife and tells Sansa that it was he who plotted to kill Bran, and not any Lannister.
water_wendi
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That is exactly why im saying Drogon is dragon meat.
Maybe the biggest twist of the show so far.
Darryl M R
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Where is Gengry?
Robdraggoo
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I dont know, it's never shown him seeing future events, only Danny has had that.
Nah. He saw a vision, but it wasn't the literal future, it was metaphor.
Rowing. He'll probably run into Euron soon though.
LF would have done something else to continue fucking everyone over. He started the whole thing, he wasn't/isn't going to stop until he's dead.
Wtf? I do not remember this. Which episode was it stated???
Were they true visions though, or mind fuckery by those warlocks? Remember they set all that up so she would chill with Drogo and her son, while being locked up and chained for ever.
The episode this happened in lol.
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