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[Zoso Achilles]

I'm reading through the series again and something stood out to me from the prologue of CoK when Maester Cressen dies trying to poison Melisandre. The poison he uses is a small crystal that's effect is to block off the throat and give the feeling of being strangled. Was this the same thing used to kill Joff? There's even a line about how the poisoners often keep it hidden in a ring, which is a similar situation to Sansa's hairnet.

 

[Ikael]

#TeamJoffreysPurpleFace

I believe that this is something that they will change from the books. Joffrey's death will be far more gruesome than the book, me thinks. Gotta satisfy that Roman circus crowd cheering for Joffrey's bloddy demise. The fact that that it seems that this particular episode will be written by Martin leads me to believe that it will be quite probable to see such a thing.

Neil Marshall do direct S4 finale

Considering his background, I think that S4E09 will be another Blackwater-esque episode. Second assault on the wall + Stannis = HELL YEAH!

 

[dubq]

Neil Marshall do direct S4 finale

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WiC UPDATE: Hold your horses, folks. Our own source close to the production has indicated to us that this Empire report is not entirely accurate. We were unable to get any specifics, but we probably shouldn’t take everything in this report as completely set in stone. Let’s wait until we get a more official announcement before getting too worked up.

 

[Steelyuhas]

Hoping the inaccuracy isn't that Marshall isn't directing an episode, but that he isn't directing the final episode.

 

[Dysun]

Yeah it would be odd for him to direct an episode and not feature the main part of the Battle at the Wall. Couldn't be episode 10 in any case

 

[timetokill]

The fact that that it seems that this particular episode will be written by Martin leads me to believe that it will be quite probable to see such a thing.

I don't think it seems like Martin is writing that episode at all, actually.

 

[Dany]

After season 4 it'll be interesting to see what they do moving foward. They at least have 6 seasons before the show catches up to the books.

 

[Exterminieren]

After season 4 it'll be interesting to see what they do moving foward. They at least have 6 seasons before the show catches up to the books.

Not a chance in hell. Unless Martin gets TWOW out in the next year or two, it's very conceivable that the show starts running out of material for certain characters by mid-series 5.

 

[Dany]

No, I'm not saying 6 more season. I'm saying 6 seasons in total. So the show has 3 more seasons before they run dry of material and would have to start creating its own fiction.

 

[Morrigan Stark]

At first I was "cool!", then I was

WiC UPDATE: Hold your horses, folks. Our own source close to the production has indicated to us that this Empire report is not entirely accurate. We were unable to get any specifics, but we probably shouldn’t take everything in this report as completely set in stone. Let’s wait until we get a more official announcement before getting too worked up.

Edit: oops beaten, didn't see there was a page 3 when I posted that.

 

[DrForester]

I believe that this is something that they will change from the books. Joffrey's death will be far more gruesome than the book, me thinks. Gotta satisfy that Roman circus crowd cheering for Joffrey's bloddy demise. The fact that that it seems that this particular episode will be written by Martin leads me to believe that it will be quite probable to see such a thing.



Considering his background, I think that S4E09 will be another Blackwater-esque episode. Second assault on the wall + Stannis = HELL YEAH!

What the heck would they do at the Wall if they hold the battle till episode 9. Battle needs to happen mid season with the last two eps being the Lord Commander stuff. Mountain vs Viper is all the big climax episode 9 needs.

 

[Trasher]

Hoping the inaccuracy isn't that Marshall isn't directing an episode, but that he isn't directing the final episode.

Hopefully it's just that he's directing episode nine.

 

[Steelyuhas]

What the heck would they do at the Wall if they hold the battle till episode 9. Battle needs to happen mid season with the last two eps being the Lord Commander stuff. Mountain vs Viper is all the big climax episode 9 needs.

Hopefully it's just that he's directing episode nine.

I would like to see the battle(s) spread out across multiple episodes, although I understand that production-wise it will be much easier to do it in a single episode.

I've posted this before but I think any like this would be cool: Episode 7 could be pretty much entirely the Wall attack from the north, ending with Slynt and Thorne locking Jon in an ice cell. Then they pull him out during episode 9 to go kill Mance, and then Stannis time.

That way you at least get it to cover multiple episodes, and Slynt and Thorne locking up the guy that's been heroically leading the defense of the Wall is classic Martin, perfect end of the episode hook that viewers will rage about.

 

[Exterminieren]

Mountain vs. Viper needs to be episode 9, and it needs to be on a different level to any fight they've done previously. It's easily the season's most important and pivotal scene.

 

[Steelyuhas]

Comic Con Panel

Game of Thrones Panel and Q&A Session
Based on the bestselling fantasy book series A Song of Ice and Fire by George R. R. Martin, HBO’s Game of Thrones concluded its 10-episode third season in June and will begin filming its fourth season this summer. The series, executive produced and written by David Benioff and D. B. Weiss, is an epic story of treachery and nobility, set on the continent of Westeros, where summers and winters can last years. Featured cast include: (in alphabetical order): John Bradley as Samwell Tarly, Emilia Clarke as Daenerys Targaryen, Nikolaj Coster-Waldau as Jaime Lannister, Peter Dinklage as Tyrion Lannister, Michelle Fairley as Catelyn Stark, Kit Harington as Jon Snow, Rose Leslie as Ygritte, and Richard Madden as Robb Stark. The panel will be moderated by Elvis Mitchell.
Friday July 19, 2013 2:50pm – 3:45pm, Hall H

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Mountain vs. Viper needs to be episode 9, and it needs to be on a different level to any fight they've done previously. It's easily the season's most important and pivotal scene.

The fight could easily be episode 8, then Tyrion is just locked up longer. (I'd actually prefer that now that I think about that, fight is end of 8, Tyrion locked up for all of 9, then you know what happens in 10, last or second to last scene.)

 

[Snake]

Comic Con Panel

Since Michelle Fairley will be there I'm a little worried that some questioner will spoil Stoneheart.

"Are you excited for when you return to the show?"

 

[DrForester]

Yeah, Michelle seems like a bad idea to bring...

 

[Exterminieren]

The fight could easily be episode 8, then Tyrion is just locked up longer. (I'd actually prefer that now that I think about that, fight is end of 8, Tyrion locked up for all of 9, then you know what happens in 10, last or second to last scene.)

Nah, there are expectations for episode 9. Doing the most important scene of the season in episode 8 is like doing the Battle of the Blackwater in episode 8 and devoting 9 to, I dunno, the House of the Undying or something.

 

[bodyofanamerican]

I cannot explain how excited I am for Stannis to save the day at the Wall. Even though D and D are obviously not the biggest fans of the true king, I hope they let his awesomeness shine through for just a little.

 

[Massa]

I cannot explain how excited I am for Stannis to save the day at the Wall. Even though D and D are obviously not the biggest fans of the true king, I hope they let his awesomeness shine through for just a little.

I'm worried Stannis will sit that one out and they'll have Melisandre ride in to save the day.

 

[Admiral Bone to Pick]

I'm worried Stannis will sit that one out and they'll have Melisandre ride in to save the day.

It pains me how much Stannis has been ruined in the show, particularly in the third season. The actor who plays him does a fantastic job, and Stannis was great during the latter half of season 2. Just, ugh...

 

[Steelyuhas]

Nah, there are expectations for episode 9. Doing the most important scene of the season in episode 8 is like doing the Battle of the Blackwater in episode 8 and devoting 9 to, I dunno, the House of the Undying or something.

Battles at the Wall?

There are a number of massive events/scenes that will take place in the second half of season 4, I don't see a specific one of them having to be in episode 9.

 

[Angry Grimace]

Since Michelle Fairley will be there I'm a little worried that some questioner will spoil Stoneheart.

"Are you excited for when you return to the show?"

Comic Con questions are pre-screened and have been for almost a decade now unless its a super low profile panel, e.g. a panel about action figures or something.

 

[Massa]

Yeah, last year Richard Madden was there and nobody ruined the RW.

 

[Altazor]

regarding Wyman Manderly, my dream casting would be him:

dude was great in ROME.

 

[Count of Monte Sawed-Off]

regarding Wyman Manderly, my dream casting would be him:

dude was great in ROME.

He was originally cast as Illyrio.

 

[Iksenpets]

I'm worried Stannis will sit that one out and they'll have Melisandre ride in to save the day.

I will permit Melisandre one cool scene of burning an eagle with her mind during the battle. Anything more than that is an affront to the one true king.

He was originally cast as Illyrio.

If they can get him for Manderly, losing him as Illyrio would turn out to have been super fortunate in the long run.

 

[Rentahamster]

He was originally cast as Illyrio.

Makes sense. Isn't Illyrio supposed to be really fat?

 

[Enosh]

I cannot explain how excited I am for Stannis to save the day at the Wall. Even though D and D are obviously not the biggest fans of the true king, I hope they let his awesomeness shine through for just a little.

calling it now:
-mel and/or Davos do most of the battle planing and execution
-stannis is just a dick to everyone after the battle especially the poor poor oppressed wildlings
-mel needs to point out his every move after
-his relationship with jon is non existent at best instead being replaced with Mel in all his talks, offerings, etc or completely antagonistic at worse

 

[Iksenpets]

calling it now:
-mel and/or Davos do most of the battle planing and execution
-stannis is just a dick to everyone after the battle especially the poor poor oppressed wildlings
-mel needs to point out his every move after
-his relationship with jon is non existent at best instead being replaced with Mel in all his talks, offerings, etc or completely antagonistic at worse

STANNIS: Great job winning the battle, Melisandre.
MELISANDRE: We must sacrifice Jon Snow to the fires.
STANNIS: Great idea, Melisandre.
DAVOS: No, your Grace, we mustn't!
SAM: But Jon's just been elected Lord Commander! We need him!
DAVOS: You see, the boy's a valuable ally!
STANNIS: You'll burn for this insolence, Ser Davos. And the fat one, too.

[STANNIS' MEN surround SAM and set him ablaze. Then, they turn towards DAVOS.]

MELISANDRE: Wait, I see in the fires that Snow may be of some use to us. We must spare him. And Davos, too.
STANNIS: Great idea, Melisandre.
STANNIS: [to Davos] I lied before. I'm glad your son died.

[STANNIS punches DAVOS in the face. DAVOS collapses. STANNIS urinates on his huddled body. End Season 4.]

 

[Massa]

^ Please put the leaked script in spoiler tags.

 

[iRAWRasaurus]

Has there been any post RW Richard Madden interview?

 

[Sickboy007]

My dream castings for the Martells, gotta get some Italians in GoT:

Arianne - Margareth Madé

Doran - Giancarlo Giannini

Quentyn - Filippo Scicchitano

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

Okay, so 3 more seasons? The Winds of Winter, all being well, is meant for 2014 right? How long would they have to wait before adapting TWoW?

It's a pretty unique situation to be honest, I mean Harry Potter movies went at a snail's pace behind the final 3 books.There was zero danger of them ever catching up.

 

[Loofy]

Quentyn - Filippo Scicchitano

Isnt Quentyn supposed to be really plain looking?

 

[Sickboy007]

Isnt Quentyn supposed to be really plain looking?

I took plain more as boring looking and kind of dull than outright ugly. I mean, next to show Daario he's very plain.
Plus he's talented and has played dumb before.

But his accent could be terrible, for all I know. Madé and Giannini are fluent though.

 

[Cornballer]

NY Times article on GoT tourism:

- Following ‘Game of Thrones’ to Belfast and Beyond

 

[NathanMcMahon]

NY Times article on GoT tourism:

- Following ‘Game of Thrones’ to Belfast and Beyond

Great article! On my way to the season kick-off party. It should be a booze-filled time!

 

[Steelyuhas]

Has there been any post RW Richard Madden interview?

There are a few in here

 

[bodyofanamerican]

calling it now:
-mel and/or Davos do most of the battle planing and execution
-stannis is just a dick to everyone after the battle especially the poor poor oppressed wildlings
-mel needs to point out his every move after
-his relationship with jon is non existent at best instead being replaced with Mel in all his talks, offerings, etc or completely antagonistic at worse

Ugh. Sounds entirely too possible.

 

[ace3skoot]

I took plain more as boring looking and kind of dull than outright ugly. I mean, next to show Daario he's very plain.
Plus he's talented and has played dumb before.

But his accent could be terrible, for all I know. Madé and Giannini are fluent though.

ahahahha you say that like Quentyn and his entourage won't be cut from the show, i mean seriously his entire plot relevence can be completely furfilled by someone accidently forgetting to lock the dragon cage,

 

[Loofy]

ahahahha you say that like Quentyn and his entourage won't be cut from the show, i mean seriously his entire plot relevence can be completely furfilled by someone accidently forgetting to lock the dragon cage,

I doubt they'll cut him from the show. Its an opportunity for the show to make a really really likeable character that the audience is rooting for.. only to have him killed in the worst way possible.
Producers arent gonna miss out on that.

 

[DrForester]

Doran - Giancarlo Giannini

I throw my no doubt weighty endorsement behind this.

 

[Iksenpets]

ahahahha you say that like Quentyn and his entourage won't be cut from the show, i mean seriously his entire plot relevence can be completely furfilled by someone accidently forgetting to lock the dragon cage,

There's no way Quentyn's death doesn't have some larger relevance to the story later. It seems likely that once news of his death gets to Dorne, they're going to be pissed at Dany for spurning their alliance and are going to blame her for his death.

That said, there's no way the show can really handle all of his adventures in any version of the story that doesn't stretch Feast/Dance over two seasons. He'll either just show up in Meereen without any prior introduction other than Dornish characters talking about him or they'll somehow restructure things to have him interacting with other plots during his journey so he doesn't have to support the screen time on his own. Maybe take the plot line where he joins mercenaries who will take him to Meereen and rework it so he signs on with the Golden Company and is a side character with Tyrion and the Griffs for a while as they take their boat ride, until he bolts when they all go separate ways. Just having him show up in Meereen seems most likely though.

 

[Steelyuhas]

Season 4 filming begins today

A WiC commenter:

"They are filming at Shanes Castle. Spotted the little pink signs yesterday. Could be the caverns under the castle which have been used as Dragonstone dungeons and Winterfell crypts. Or could be somewhere in the 800 acre woodland which surrounds the castle.
My money is on Dragonstone…"

 

[timetokill]

That said, there's no way the show can really handle all of his adventures in any version of the story that doesn't stretch Feast/Dance over two seasons.

Which is why I think it's insane that I've seen suggestions that they can do it all in one, let alone two. If I had my way, it'd be three seasons. There's more than enough content there to do three seasons.

 

[Exterminieren]

Which is why I think it's insane that I've seen suggestions that they can do it all in one, let alone two. If I had my way, it'd be three seasons. There's more than enough content there to do three seasons.

Content? Sure.

Interesting, worthwhile content that will make for riveting TV? Hell no. Could be done in half of that.

 

[timetokill]

Content? Sure.

Interesting, worthwhile content that will make for riveting TV? Hell no. Could be done in half of that.

I disagree. Considering S4 will be mostly wrapping up ASOS... I think that trying to compress AFFC and ADWD into one season would be disastrous for many storylines. They've already expanded characters like Margaery far beyond the books and provided some fantastic television along the way. They could easily do so with some of the Dornish, the characters around Arya, etc.

 

[bengraven]

No need for Dragonstone. Just have Stannis disappear until midway through the season when the cavalry arrive.

 

[Exterminieren]

I disagree. Considering S4 will be mostly wrapping up ASOS... I think that trying to compress AFFC and ADWD into one season would be disastrous for many storylines. They've already expanded characters like Margaery far beyond the books and provided some fantastic television along the way. They could easily do so with some of the Dornish, the characters around Arya, etc.

Adapting AFFC and ADWD faithfully would be disastrous for many storylines, in fairness.

I don't think we'll be able to accurately point to any single series being an adaptation of a book or a section of a book past season 4, in fairness. It'll be far more of a mishmash, and there'll be loads more invented material than we've previously seen.