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Game of Thrones - Season 2 - George RR Martin's Song of Ice and Fire - Sundays on HBO
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You weren't satisfied, I assume?
Your imagination has an unlimited budget and doesn't have to deal with logistics, much like books. Would do well for a lot of people to understand that.
Sho_Nuff82
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Casting question [ACoK, series]
Neither of those makes any sense for some pretty major events of the third book/season. Besides, it looked like
Have they cast anyone for Prince Rhaegar? "The dragon has 3 heads" is probably one of the most important lines of the entire series.
Neither of those makes any sense for some pretty major events of the third book/season. Besides, it looked like
Sansa stayed behind when the Hound left.
adamsappel
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It's Charles Dance, you dunce!
Fantastic episode, best of the series by far. Wildfire explosion was incredible and I didn't miss the chain at all. Every actor nailed their part tonight.
-Pyromaniac-
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The promo man...next episode is gonna be AMAZING.
Holy crap. Just finished.
That was just...I'm speechless at its flawlessness. Wow.
They hit pretty much every single note perfectly (okay, I kind of missed that Sandor didn't get Sansa singing at knife point, hand on cheek tears, etc, that's one of my favourite moments, but other than that).
But. Goddamn.
That was just...I'm speechless at its flawlessness. Wow.
They hit pretty much every single note perfectly (okay, I kind of missed that Sandor didn't get Sansa singing at knife point, hand on cheek tears, etc, that's one of my favourite moments, but other than that).
But. Goddamn.
Get that negativity out of here. Be happy we at least got a battle and an awesome explosion.
PhoenixDark
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Holy fuck @ that episode. Not just the best episode of Game Of Thrones, that was one of the best episodes of television. I've been hard on this show at times, but that was simply stunning.
I also loved how every time a character was about to start telling a story, they were interrupted. It was almost like Martin trolling lol
I also loved how every time a character was about to start telling a story, they were interrupted. It was almost like Martin trolling lol
Pretty sure trolling is Martin's natural way of being.
petethepanda
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I'm fine with him doing one a season but I wish they had him on to do some minor supervising on the overarching beats of a season. He does such a good job of focusing down his events for TV.
PhoenixDark
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Apparently there's an extended promo of ep10 out there, but I keep seeing it taken off youtube. Hopefully it shows up later tonight
Exactly, plus
the way Arya said "I want to" to Jaqen sounded like the next words out of her mouth would begin with "but..." which would lead off her journey with Gendry and Hot Pie to Riverrun.
I'd like for the books to finish in a reasonable time
Well, this obviously wasn't the battle described in the book, at all, but it was still cool. As it is written on the book I doubt it could even be done on a hollywood blockbuster budget. The wildfire was nailed and that is good enough for me.
Can we please get GRRM to write every episode? (Not like the series is going to be finished either way) As amazing and awesome as the fighting was, I thought the episode was 10x more awesome because of the dialogue. Dialogue had been a bit on the weak side in recent weeks IMO. This week, almost every dialogue scene was powerful. Cersei, Sansa, Tyrion, Stannis, it was all done wonderfully. The Tyrion speech was damn good. There was more characterization for a few characters in this episode than they had all series up to this point. Lena Headey is the perfect Cersei. I'm sorry for doubting her in season 1. I had high expectations and was blown away.
If HBO didn't give them the budget to do a big battle, I think they could have still pulled off a really great episode. The best scene for me in the entire episode wasn't even part of the battle. It was Cersei sitting on the throne telling her son a story before she's about to poison him.
If HBO didn't give them the budget to do a big battle, I think they could have still pulled off a really great episode. The best scene for me in the entire episode wasn't even part of the battle. It was Cersei sitting on the throne telling her son a story before she's about to poison him.
PhoenixDark
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I agree 100%. It would have been very easy for those dialogue cutaway scenes to slow down an episode like this, or cause groans/rolling eyes. But the dialogue was truly good, as was the acting; Lena was amazing as Cersei tonight, and Sophie Williams turned it an impressive performance as well. And Dinklage, oh man.
Outside of the terribly abrupt ending, it was fantastic. Show drastically improved being able to focus on one group, rather than having to jump between 5 other areas.
I absolutely loved some of the lines too.
"Bunch of brave men on the other side of the wall"
"Lets go kill them"
I absolutely loved some of the lines too.
"Bunch of brave men on the other side of the wall"
"Lets go kill them"
Cornballer
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Content round up
Reviews:
- EW.com
- Onion A|V Club
- WiC.net
- memles
Other content:
- Promo for next week's finale (please spoiler tag any discussion, youtube vid)
- EW.com: How the producers pulled off 'Blackwater'
- Inside the Episode (HBO vid)
Reviews are a little slow coming this evening as there were no screeners this week. I'll update and repost a few times as necessary.
Reviews:
- EW.com
- Onion A|V Club
- WiC.net
- memles
Other content:
- Promo for next week's finale (please spoiler tag any discussion, youtube vid)
- EW.com: How the producers pulled off 'Blackwater'
- Inside the Episode (HBO vid)
Reviews are a little slow coming this evening as there were no screeners this week. I'll update and repost a few times as necessary.
It bought us a few hours, yeah.
Just because Larry is starting to stop hating her doesn't mean he'll marry her.
Sophie Turner
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The Sansa/Cersei scenes were awesome. Sophie and Lena just killed it tonight.
Excellent episode.
Excellent episode.
PhoenixDark
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I'm arguing with someone on another forum who is claiming the finale battle in Spartacus S2 was better executed than tonight's. I just...*throws hands up* outside of Band Of Brothers (a miniseries with a far larger budget) NOTHING compares to tonight's battle in terms of television. It's not even close.
Don't know if this will make much sense, but.... I'm glad I didn't know that GRRM wrote this episode. Would've enjoyed it just the same, but afterwards I might have felt that I was biased, knowing that GRRM was behind it. Instead I thought it was amazing ('elevated' is the most appropriate word), but just thought it was because it was a special episode in the season.
Really enjoyed how much was pulled from ACOK.
....that sounds weird.
Really enjoyed how much was pulled from ACOK.
....that sounds weird.
Great episode... liked the fireball up the middle of the explosion like it was an atomic blast to go along with the ships getting torn apart. The battles on the field, and the verbal clashes behind the fight, were all interwoven quite well. A nice mixture and good balance, as opposed to just mindless action. Can't believe it all ends next week... and then another year long wait. :\
Certainly they must resolve something about Winterfell next week, and not wait a whole year for that?!?
So nice to read positive reactions.
Most people I view such battle scenes with in any show or film always laugh at how unbelievable the violence is, claiming there's no way single sword strokes could wreak that kind of devastation on the human body. I personally, honestly have no idea how realistic such scenes are. Would Sandor's one stroke slicings be in the realm of reality?
That was a great hour. Wildfire spectacle aside, the battle was a little hohum as far as I was concerned. Hollywood battles have obviously spoiled and ruined me. Dialogue and characterization was fantastic as always.
The notion that every other season 2 story will be wrapped next week (likely each with their own bang) makes for an extremely packed and exciting prospective episode. Can't fucking wait.
PhoenixDark
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I might die if I don't get a Larry Williams review tonight, oh man.
Probably been posted, but if not, here is a youtube link for The National's version of the Rains of Castamere: http://t.co/TVSXfbDj
theignoramus
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best episode of the series. Loved Cersei's ending monologue, that was when I remembered GRRM wrote the episode.
bodyofanamerican
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Holy SHIT the wildfire.
Cornballer
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Everything else I can think of that's comparable (e.g. BoB, The Pacific, Rome) is in a different weight class when it comes to budget.
I think we're getting an extra few minutes next week for the finale. WiC.net has it listed at 64 minutes.
PhoenixDark
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Yea, I mentioned BoB as a miniseries can't be compared due to having a larger budget. I'd certainly argue this was larger/more impressive than the major Rome battle though
Everything else I can think of that's comparable (e.g. BoB, The Pacific, Rome) is in a different weight class when it comes to budget. .
As in those shows got more? Or less?
More.
Band of Brothers was $12.5M per episode. Game of Thrones is just over half that, I think.
theignoramus
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Jack Gleeson continues to impress. When he shouts at Tyrion "what would you have me do", he really drives home the cowardly little boy his character turns into when he's in the thick of it. You wanted him to actually stand and fight, do something, anything that merited a shred of respect.
It's a great contrast with swagger,cocksure little shit commanding Sansa to kiss his sword.
It's a great contrast with swagger,cocksure little shit commanding Sansa to kiss his sword.
Cornballer
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Lots more. The Pacific was $200 million for 10 episodes, iirc.
Band of Brothers (2001): $125 million
The Pacific (2010): $200 million
Rome (2005): $100 million for season 1
Adjusted for inflation that comes out to $163m, $211m and $118m respectively.
Looks like Rome's budget was higher by not so much ($8.75M per ep compared to $7M), but that can definitely make a big difference.
Can't believe The Pacific was so expensive. Such a soulless series compared to BoB.
The explosion is tied with this scene from BSG for me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdkCpnGMyGw&feature=related
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