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Game of Thrones - Season 2 - George RR Martin's Song of Ice and Fire - Sundays on HBO
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Steelyuhas
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Can we watch the spoilers (and mark)?
BertramCooper
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That reminds me of the 6 saltine cracker challenge. I did it like last week, couldn't finish the last two in time(took them in two at a time).
Fluffy bunny was the game of choice when I was in middle school.
Tweens sure do love finding fun ways to almost choke themselves.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
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Fuck in my day we'd pretty much actually choke each other to the point of passing out. Stupid kids.
I'd hail that!
Cornballer
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- Access Hollywood: Finn Jones On Why Ser Loras Tyrell Joined Team Lannister *some spoilers*
Arya, Dany, and Jon all had their stories tampered with but it was the most impactful on his character. He almost talks about it but doesn't go in detail.
I really don't see what's so gentle hearted about Dany.
There is absolutely nothing about her character that tells me she would make a "best ruler". I would say there is nothing about her character that tells me she would make a good anything.
"Give me what I want! If I don't get it (it totally belongs to me by the way), then when my dragons grow up, I'll totally burn you!"
What a gentle and kind-hearted woman she is.
Forget which book:
Until she frees those slaves at least
They should have had her accept the proposal from "the richest man in Qarth". And then had her stay there and stop showing her. Cut her from the TV show. These repetitive and annoying characters belong together.
We actually did that in middle school.
Hold your breath, stand up against the wall, and have someone push as hard as they can on your chest. You'll pass out, fast.
We stopped because one of our friends started shaking when he passed out, and hit his head pretty hard on something and started bleeding.
Fuuuuuuuck we were dumb.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
The Elite
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Even in real life he wants to have sex with his sister?
They got the right actor for the part.
DeathbyVolcano
Banned
fuck, I love Maisie.
Heh. We had one where we twisted each others nipples until someone capitulated. It was called "chowder". Usually had someone yell chowder rhythmically during each turn.
theignoramus
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Dany does not have a gentle heart, that's obvious in SoS. She's a hard ass, just like Stannis. (SoS spoiler)
The taking of Mereen was no gentle affair, she has 160 something slavers nailed to a stake and disemboweled. (to be fair, those slavers had it coming)
But she's alright. By rights, she could have had Mormont's head for his treachery, but she lets him go unscathed.
But she's alright. By rights, she could have had Mormont's head for his treachery, but she lets him go unscathed.
She's fair and principled, for the most part. With a good Hand and a wise council, I think she'd be perfectly fine for Westeros. Certainly better than Robert Baratheon was.
And of course she has a sense of entitlement about her, how could she be a contender for the Iron Throne and not believe she had every right to sit on it? If you hatched and reared three dragons out of a blazing inferno, I'm sure you too would think the world owed you something. I know I would.
But Robert (and even Joffrey) can't do that much damage. Even if they're terrible Kings, they can't just go doing whatever they want whenever they want. If Dany is unhappy with you, then we'll get another Harrenhall.
It would be a kingdom built on fear. As bad and unstable as it is, I would rather be in a kingdom built on shaky alliances. If I do something wrong, I could burn bridges with the other major houses. Under Dany's rule, if I do something wrong, my house gets to be cooked alive. She has shown herself to be unstable and crazy and threatening people with dragon-fire seems to be taken rather lightly for her. She's every bit the Targaryen Viserys was and is well on her way to becoming another Aerys - but with actual dragons.
Oh and I wasn't talking about her right to the throne. I just mean in general how she talks to people trying to get ships or entry into Qarth or how she treats Jorah.
But I might be biased. I dislike her quite a bit.
It would be a kingdom built on fear. As bad and unstable as it is, I would rather be in a kingdom built on shaky alliances. If I do something wrong, I could burn bridges with the other major houses. Under Dany's rule, if I do something wrong, my house gets to be cooked alive. She has shown herself to be unstable and crazy and threatening people with dragon-fire seems to be taken rather lightly for her. She's every bit the Targaryen Viserys was and is well on her way to becoming another Aerys - but with actual dragons.
Oh and I wasn't talking about her right to the throne. I just mean in general how she talks to people trying to get ships or entry into Qarth or how she treats Jorah.
But I might be biased. I dislike her quite a bit.
theignoramus
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Viserys would have had
Astapor and Mereen razed to the ground ,Jorah Mormont burned alive. The Unsullied would never have been freed, the slaves from both cities would have been sold to the highest bidder, and the old men, women and children from Drogo's old hoarde would have been left to rot and die
But if your point is that as of right now, as far the show goes, she hasnt demonstrated she'd be an able ruler, then yeah, I agree.
I don't remember enough about Viserys, but I didn't think he was that bad? He just wanted the throne and was willing to step on people to do it. Aerys started out a pretty good king. But he went crazy. Dany is already crazy. With dragons.
EDIT: On your edit, yes I speak mainly from the show. I read the books many many many years ago and don't remember much.
Right now, I would say Stannis would not only make the best leader, but actually be able to bring peace to Westeros. Dany would make the worst.
Sorry if I'm sounding pushy or argumentative. Dany discussion brings out a bad part of me. I don't know why my dislike is as strong as it is. I should take a breath.
Cornballer
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- WiC.net: Casting Season Three: Edmure Tully
I laughed harder than I should have.
"Stupid girl, a man told you to use a spoonful of sugar to help the medicine go down."
What the hell is this?
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Her Khalasar is pretty lame too. There's like one buff guy, Jorah Mormont and a crew of hot chicks who were inexplicably abandoned by the rest of Khal Drogo's rapesquad.
I've heard the same complaints about Dany everywhere on GAF.
Hey I'm still supportive. I feel like I'm the only person who has enjoyed Emila Clarke's performance this season.
Largely I disagree, if anything all those threats are fronts. She was the one saving women from being raped by Drogo's khalasar after all. Before being tossed into the Dothraki lifestyle she had lived a life of luxury. All sorts of things were given to her and she was constantly told by her brother Viserys that they deserved all of those things and the seven kingdoms because it was their blood right.
She's been told since young about the greatness of her family with Viserys filling her head with all the stories about the dragons and Aegon and Aerys. So does she have pride in herself, her house and her dragons? Of course she does! As a result of this she feels that she is in the right because her family ruled for such a long period. So she feels as though people should rally behind her. So when they don't rally behind her she only knows how to respond with threats because she simply doesn't know better.
That said I don't think she would rule with fear, she is not Cersei and she is no Joffrey. But she is young, naive and inexperienced.
But I might be biased. I like her quite a bit. :b
Not her fault the scriptwriters made her repetitive. She's done great.
fallengorn
Bitches love smiley faces
I laughed way too hard at that. I just pictured them dressed like fly '90s dudes for some reason.
Speaking of, I'm only 100 pages into that. Need to start digging in.
The Lamonster
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I think Clarke is wonderful...but the writers have made Dany kind of unlikable this season.
and where is her nude scene this year wtf
A man is ashamed of that mistake.
Cornballer
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DeathbyVolcano
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Emilia Clarke has done a fine job, she's already demonstrated at how good of an actress she is in Season 1. I know it's a cliche, but she really hasn't had much to go on this season.
If the scriptwriter writes 'where are my dragons?' or 'I am the Khaleesi', then it's the scriptwriter's fault. Would you expect her to deliver those lines in a dull monotone voice?
If the scriptwriter writes 'where are my dragons?' or 'I am the Khaleesi', then it's the scriptwriter's fault. Would you expect her to deliver those lines in a dull monotone voice?
I was under the impression people had it all covered, but I can do my own pass over the episode if you want.*tag quote*
Are you going to make any gifs this week?
PhoenixDark
Banned
Meh, she acts like Emma Watson - compensating for not being able to act by yelling and over-dramatizing every other line. I thought she was fine in S1 but has taken a major dive this season. I think a lot is due to bad writing and handling of her arc but the actor has to bear some blame too
Cornballer
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It's up to you - I understand if you don't have the time or interest. I was looking for a better version of Stannis' "thousands" and that look before he gets into the boat, maybe Cersei forcing Sansa to drink, and some Bronn action. No worries if you don't have time.
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Really cringeworthy scenes with Dany this season. I mean, I wasn't crazy about the character in the book, but the TV version comes off about ten times worse.
Joe Shlabotnik
Banned
Man, word for word what I thought. She reminded me a lot of Emma Watson in the middle Harry Potter movies this season. Watson toned it down a bit in Deathly Hallows.
Totally biased. You're just out of your mind and smitten with her like Jorah. You're both just seeing what you want to see!
Having pride in your house and your name and your dragons is one thing. Threatening everyone who disagrees is something else. I can accept being young, naive, and inexperienced. But that also means she would be a terrible leader, at least as she is now. Her upbringing doesn't justify her actions. I'm not sure what that has to do with her ability to rule. Actually, I would say it's worse. It makes it so she's both crazy and out of touch with reality.
I don't see Dany's ambitions as just. She wants to bring (another) war to Westeros and revenge on the Baratheon/Starks/every other rebel house. She's not looking to bring peace to Westeros and its people.
All I know about her is that she has dragons (which she has no problem threatening people with) and feels she deserves all sorts of things that she hasn't earned. I don't think we can say her threats are empty. She is not beyond cruelty [book spoilers - forget which one, but not in the show yet]
as we see with the slavers
The Targaryens are conquerors. From what I understand, they ruled for so long purely because of the power the dragons gave them. Their house got weaker the more separated they were from the dragons and it eventually led to Aerys being overthrown. They're paranoid and see themselves as above everyone else (hence the incest - must keep a pure bloodline!). That entire house is crazy and bred to rule with fear.
Dany could end up being different since she's not given the same things past Targaryens were. She has to struggle with regular people and be treated as lesser. So she could change. But as of the show and what I remember from the books, all signs point to her becoming just another Targaryen.
Of course, the irony in my dislike of the Targaryens is that [series speculation spoiler]
Jon is probably half and he's my favourite character
Also I'm pretty sure, that [general stuff, not really a spoiler, but just in case]
Dany will end up being the "heroine" of the story anyway. What better way to fight off an invading army of Others than with fire-breathing dragons?
Truthfully though, I'm glad someone is able to enjoy Dany. I think a lot of people actually do. I don't know why I feel about her the way that I do. I justify a lot of it with just pure speculation and stuff I probably made up myself in my mind. I think it's just that there's lingering bitterness that her chapters kept interrupting stuff I was actually interested in. They always felt so out of place. The poor handling of her in the show just made it that much worse.
I don't really care that much. But I feel like I need to get the most out of my time in this thread before the season is over and it goes dormant. This has been my main GAF thread for a while. Without it I'm going to be stuck talking about video games I don't care for, gruesome news stories I can't read, and social media chain letters.
Honestly I care more about [ASOS]
the look of Riverlands/Riverrun and whether or not they include Catelyn Stark's daddy/the funeral boat scene than I do about Edmure. They shouldn't get a great actor that costs money, just someone funny and akward.
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