Cornballer
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They've done quite a few of them, but not all. Not sure if they're going to ramp it up this season and try and get to most of the new names, but that'd be a lot of writing for gutshot.
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Game of Thrones - Season 2 - George RR Martin's Song of Ice and Fire - Sundays on HBO
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I AM THE KHALEESI, THE MOTHER OF DRAGONS. WHERE ARE MY DRAGONS.
Come to the House of the Undying. You should come to the House of the Undying. Serious, just come to the fucking House of the Undying already.
PhoenixDark
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Dany's arc had a bit of a cheese factor from the very first episode of S1 with the wedding, "savages" etc. It has been significantly increased this season to like Star Trek levels of "weird foreign planet/alien culture" oddness. The actor who plays Jorah Mormont does a great job of sort of adding some...class or a core to the scenes imo, can't really put my thumb on it. It's the dynamic you often see in bad horror or sci fi films that have a dignified British actor chewing dialogue and making the atmosphere seem better imo (like Donald Pleasence in the Halloween sequels).
At the start of the season I really disagreed with Elio Garcia's argument that creating scenes for popular characters who don't do much in the novel (Robb, Dany) was a problem. In hindsight he was pretty much right. While I do believe scenes could have been done, what we ultimately got was so sloppy. From Dany's repetitive arc to Robb going from badass war leader to 16 year old boy....bleh; it just feels like both characters are in giant holding patterns.
Another thing about Qarth: it's apparently the greatest city ever, yet you never really see why. Dany attends a dinner party, walks around a rich dude's house...that's about it. I suppose they didn't want to show too much since the location is the same as King's Landing.
At the start of the season I really disagreed with Elio Garcia's argument that creating scenes for popular characters who don't do much in the novel (Robb, Dany) was a problem. In hindsight he was pretty much right. While I do believe scenes could have been done, what we ultimately got was so sloppy. From Dany's repetitive arc to Robb going from badass war leader to 16 year old boy....bleh; it just feels like both characters are in giant holding patterns.
Another thing about Qarth: it's apparently the greatest city ever, yet you never really see why. Dany attends a dinner party, walks around a rich dude's house...that's about it. I suppose they didn't want to show too much since the location is the same as King's Landing.
Anton Sugar
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Yeah, my interest is immediately piqued whenever Iain Glen shows up. He's the saving grace of her scenes.
Well I wish I could give a proper response, but I'm not at those parts you spoilered.
So I'll just adress some points. Yes I agree as of this point she would be a terrible leader. No her upbringing does not justify her actions. I was just pointing out why she is the way she is. Also yes she is crazy and out of touch with reality, she fell in love with her raper. She didn't flinch when her (granted not so great) brother died. She tossed herself into a blazing fire and came out unscathed. So yes, she's obviously not all there and has delusions of grandeur.
She wants to bring (another) war to Westeros because she was (again) taught by her brother that those people are evil. She actually thinks she would be liberating Westeros of those people and bringing peace. She feels she deserves these things because again, blood right. She feels she already owns the throne, she only needs to find a way to sit on it and those who deny her that right are her enemies.
The Targaryen blood line is crazy, I wholeheartedly agree.
I don't know if she will change to the degree you'd like her to, but I feel she will change by the end of it.
For me, I haven't really found her chapters annoying so much as I did with Catelyn and Bran. As for this thread, I'm under the impression people are getting annoyed by her repetition this season. I can't blame them.
Anyway, your difference of opinion is always welcome especially given the life span of these threads and I'll have to hurry and catch up to those spots you've spoiled before I can share my thoughts on them.
I'll do it.
I think it's just because his character gives a connection to the viewer between her and the rest of Westeros. Without him her scenes would feel even more disconnected from the rest of the show.
I loved Clarke in S1 - Dany had lots to do, and she was good. But her storyline went nowhere in S2, and Clarke had nothing to do but yell like a petulant child. The really sad thing here is that without SIGNIFICANT additions to her storyline, shes not going to fare any better in S3, S4, S5, etc......
GRRM needs to get her ass to Westeros ASAP.
GRRM needs to get her ass to Westeros ASAP.
Dany had less to do in the books and even though they spiced her story up with the stealing of hte dragons...she is sorta running in place.
I love Jorah Mormont, he plays the book character perfectly and he does a fantastic job in towing between adviser and distant admirer for Dany.
I love Jorah Mormont, he plays the book character perfectly and he does a fantastic job in towing between adviser and distant admirer for Dany.
I think she'll gain a lot of fans for the [Storm?]
slave stuff
I wonder if being king of Qarth makes the House of the Undying a franchise, so he can open up new locations throughout Qarth and eventually elsewhere in Westeros.
One does not get to richest man in Qarth without stealing a few dragons.
Yes, ASoS.
Chuck Norris
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They should start introducing some of the politics over there in earlier. Its all kind of thrown at you in the recent books a bit quickly
Iain Glen (Jorah) has been like Charles Dance (Tywin) in that respect, they have done both an accurate portrayal and added new weight to their characters through their fantastic performances. They also both have an incredible screen presence. The supporting cast has been incredible for this show.
I'm not sure that's true. Series
I loved her stories in the rest of the books.
SOS and ADWD of course. She'll come back strong the next two seasons, at the very least.
SOS and ADWD of course. She'll come back strong the next two seasons, at the very least.
ADWD spoilers
I'm assuming that Feast and Dance will be spliced together timeline wise for 2 or 3 seasons, but besides that, Dance is very heavy on the politics of that side of Dany and her city. I really enjoyed it, but it might be quite difficult for viewers to follow two separate political stories.
And Dance has Dragons son. Big ones.
And Dance has Dragons son. Big ones.
I love Dany.
Cornballer
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Folks, please don't confirm who's alive in which books. If you're going to talk about events deep into the books, use a [series] tag. I know it's a hassle, and your efforts are appreciated. Full rules and further explanation are in the OP. Thank you.
Cornballer
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Time for HBO to adapt their business model then. The point of Itunes would be to get a larger volume at a lower cost per person.
Jibbajabbawockky
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The nice thing that I love about the Dunk and Egg novellas is that you're able to see some of the other Targaryens from ~100 years before Game of Thrones, and while some were crazy bastards like Viserys, there were some pretty cool, more honorable Targaryens too.
Minor quibble with King's Landing is that I always pictured it not as desert like or brown as it is on the show but a bit more "green." Then places like Qarth in Essos would be more desert like or obviously Dorne. That seems somewhat problematic for the show when they have to visually differentiate the locales.
But the show really skimps away from extended city type sequences or any external scenes within the big cities. Which is a shame for a place like Qarth, since so much of Dany's arc in the book in Qarth is really a lot of world building with vivid descriptions of the city and so forth, with her out and about. Budget issues, obviously but still a bit disappointing after you get a glimpse of the streets of Qarth when they first open the gates and thats about it.
That's what I was saying before.
It didn't occur to me until several episodes in, but there are almost no scenes in which a character does something other than
1) Fight
2) Die
3) Have sex
4) Prepare to fight/die
Even the children are engaged in nothing but violent games. Sure, characters are happy, but only at the expense of others.
Does no one in Westeros just play music or have a good time without being threatened at swordpoint?
It didn't occur to me until several episodes in, but there are almost no scenes in which a character does something other than
1) Fight
2) Die
3) Have sex
4) Prepare to fight/die
Even the children are engaged in nothing but violent games. Sure, characters are happy, but only at the expense of others.
Does no one in Westeros just play music or have a good time without being threatened at swordpoint?
Jibbajabbawockky
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Hmmmm... ACOK/ASOS
I'm guessing that, based on the last track of the soundtrack, it'll be the three horn blasts and the Others/Wights getting ready to attack the Fist of the First Men.
But there likely will be a shot of Dany having wreaked the House of the Undying with her dragons and maybe her sailing out of Qarth with her dragons flying alongside the ship.
But there likely will be a shot of Dany having wreaked the House of the Undying with her dragons and maybe her sailing out of Qarth with her dragons flying alongside the ship.
Well, I mean they are at war.
Hopefully the warlocks cast a spell on them to grow fast and then Drogon eats her so we don't have to put up with her crap anymore
You're seeing westerosi politics/power plays. Not Rolland Rivers the farmer, family and fun. The show focuses on the drama surrounding the iron throne/the wall. It doesn't focus in on Bran's board games.
I totally get that the power struggle is the subject of the show.
The problem is that when you don't show any kind of daily living or city life, you start to wonder what these characters are fighting for.
As I was asking before (and no one answered me), how would Westeros benefit from the rule of King Robb?
I saw some starving people throwing crap at Joffrey. Spend a few moments with that. Where do they live? Let me get to know one or two of them.
There are plenty of characters in Westeros, but almost zero personality to the place itself.
The problem is that when you don't show any kind of daily living or city life, you start to wonder what these characters are fighting for.
As I was asking before (and no one answered me), how would Westeros benefit from the rule of King Robb?
I saw some starving people throwing crap at Joffrey. Spend a few moments with that. Where do they live? Let me get to know one or two of them.
There are plenty of characters in Westeros, but almost zero personality to the place itself.
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Cornballer
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Poached! Noooooooooo!
Ape Gone Insane
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Poor Jorah, always getting friendzoned.
No, no water polo or family barbecue.
Rome is a series which is almost entirely about the power struggle in Rome. As a matter of fact, that is how it is described. "A struggle between the common people and the nobility. Two soldiers, one who would make himself king."
There are scenes of characters sleeping, eating, working, walking, praying, playing the harp, showering, singing, picnicking, and otherwise doing things people do.
You see the seeds of war being sown within the palace, but you also see how it affects the people.
People are starving. Ooh look, a character who is starving. Jews are being treated badly. Ooh look, a Jew who has been treated badly.
It's really not difficult to work these things into a show, especially when the source material probably describes everything about these places and their inhabitants in tremendous detail.
Rome is a series which is almost entirely about the power struggle in Rome. As a matter of fact, that is how it is described. "A struggle between the common people and the nobility. Two soldiers, one who would make himself king."
There are scenes of characters sleeping, eating, working, walking, praying, playing the harp, showering, singing, picnicking, and otherwise doing things people do.
You see the seeds of war being sown within the palace, but you also see how it affects the people.
People are starving. Ooh look, a character who is starving. Jews are being treated badly. Ooh look, a Jew who has been treated badly.
It's really not difficult to work these things into a show, especially when the source material probably describes everything about these places and their inhabitants in tremendous detail.
There were some scenes on the Wall of people just kind of... hanging out. Preparing food, having boy talks, shoveling, etc. I feel the story is way better paced and more balanced in the north. Actually... everything in the north is better in every way.
As for the stuff in the south, there were scenes in season 1. Season 2 is kind of all about the war. So I guess it makes sense to focus on that when you have less than ten hours to work with.
As for the stuff in the south, there were scenes in season 1. Season 2 is kind of all about the war. So I guess it makes sense to focus on that when you have less than ten hours to work with.
And Arya's arc in ACoK does show this wonderfully. Too bad they cut all of that out.
I've always imagined him as donnie wahlberg. I have no idea why.
Cornballer
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They're doing auditions now, but they might wait a while after the finale to release info. Looking through WiC for S2 news, they dropped the first casting news in very early July, and some of the Iceland stuff didn't come in until November. Most of it was announced in late July and throughout August.
I'm a little late to the discussion here, but I agree that TV Stannis is doing a good job so far. I'm not sure if it's the way he's portrayed on screen, or simply that I've read the books an know what happens, but I like Stannis on the show right now more than I did in the books at this point. I hated Stannis for the longest time because of him having Renly killed (I really liked Renly), but he really won me over in the books (series spoilers)
all throughout A Dance with Dragons and the preview chapter for Winds. He's probably my favorite "King" now in the novels.
They've done quite a few of them, but not all. Not sure if they're going to ramp it up this season and try and get to most of the new names, but that'd be a lot of writing for gutshot.
So far for season three I've done Mance, Ramsay and now Edmure. I'll hopefully get to most of the other prominent characters, like Beric, Olenna, and the Reeds. Some of the secondary ones like Thoros or Tormund probably aren't worth doing a post on since it will likely go to some unknown.
So you write them? Who are you considering so far for the Reeds and Daario?
Yeah, although I just take some of the popular suggestions for each role. Sometimes I will add my own choice, if it is someone I think is particularly a good candidate or likely to be cast, but usually I just go with the most popular names that others have come up with.
Trojita
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Oh you.
and yeah Bran has the best one.
I found this picture in season 1's thread on neogaf.
Maybe I should rewatch the first episode, I don't remember Arya looking that young.
Also I found this picture
lol
I found this picture in season 1's thread on neogaf.
Maybe I should rewatch the first episode, I don't remember Arya looking that young.
That was likely from the shooting of the pilot. I've watched episode one twice recently (trying to get people hooked), and she doesn't look that young in any of her scenes. I'm thinking they didn't keep hers and reshot them all because she grew so much. There's an original pilot scene left in where Sansa looks really young, though. It's the scene where she was talking to Cersei during the feast. The commentary said she grew like three inches before they filmed the other episodes.
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