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Game of Thrones - Season 2 - George RR Martin's Song of Ice and Fire - Sundays on HBO
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MegaKungFuRadio
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It wasn't really long enough for me to bother lowering the volume, but yeah, it was pretty loud and sudden.
Yeah, i thought they were well integrated.
Anyway, after some more reflection I thought Jon and the expedition north of the wall could have been left until next week w/ Renly and Arya, but then I realized things might already be too crowded.
I thought it was nice to juxtapose Bran and Joffery leadership styles as children against the older characters - too bad Dany and Robb/Theon had to be aged up.
Sansa is gonna get the short of end of the rewrite but not many people like her so that is a natural sacrifice.
I'm not sure how they could introduced Stannis and what was going on any better than they did without losing the subtlety.
Count me as another that felt the hour went by like 15 min.
blainethemono
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i've been wanting a game like that since medieval 2 came out. that really is the perfect way to do a game based on the series...something like Mount & Blade would work too
pulga
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Few thoughts from a bookreader:
1) Melisandre and Stannis were spot on. Love the little details, like the huge ass Westeros shaped table and the ruby shining.
2) Add one more who thought Craster should've looked like Frey! Craster's Keep was ace as well.
3) Loved Bran's dream. Thank R'hllor they're showing them.
4) GREY MOTHERFUCKING WIND
5) (ASoS Spoiler)
6) Didn't find Dolorous Edd funny 
He's one of my faves from the book.
7) GREY MOTHEFUCKING WIND
8) The new Littlefinger/Cersei scene was great. I was awestruck at the owning Petyr was dishing out, and even feared for his life when Cersei double owned him.
9) Joffrey is suitably cunty.
10) I need more Arya in my life.
All in all, a fantastic premiere. If there's one complaint, I saw it with 2 non readers and they were pretty confused sometimes.
1) Melisandre and Stannis were spot on. Love the little details, like the huge ass Westeros shaped table and the ruby shining.
2) Add one more who thought Craster should've looked like Frey! Craster's Keep was ace as well.
3) Loved Bran's dream. Thank R'hllor they're showing them.
4) GREY MOTHERFUCKING WIND
5) (ASoS Spoiler)
the scene with Robb and Caitlyn talking about getting everyone back together and returning home almost made me cry. These tv bitches can't even begin to imagine what's coming
He's one of my faves from the book. 7) GREY MOTHEFUCKING WIND
8) The new Littlefinger/Cersei scene was great. I was awestruck at the owning Petyr was dishing out, and even feared for his life when Cersei double owned him.
9) Joffrey is suitably cunty.
10) I need more Arya in my life.
All in all, a fantastic premiere. If there's one complaint, I saw it with 2 non readers and they were pretty confused sometimes.
I plan on putting in an email to HBO tomorrow to see if we can get a statement - it was obviously a last-minute decision, given that the versions with the chyrons went out to critics.
dead souls
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This was a great episode, and GOT is a wonderful show, but calling it the best show on television since The Wire is ridiculous hyperbole.
RobotsAnger
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I must entirely agree, but from the other perspective. I had read the books after the first season and found the show much less exciting this season. Scenes definitely felt like an abridged version for me and I was just enjoying the cinematography/acting more than the actual story which was the real draw for me in season 1.
PhoenixDark
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Am I the only one who thought Ser Dontos' armor looked like Captain America chest armor lol
whats funny is that calling it ridiculous hyperbole is actually more ridiculous and hyperbolic than what he said in the first place
its not like theres a million amazing tv shows which he has to like more to not be a moron bro
yeah wtf? glad im not crazy. felt like a bad dub
altho his voice just kept on being fucked up, just less
Yea, both have mods but they just aren't the same as the real deal. This series really is perfect for it because each and every faction is different and have their own pros and cons but are also grounded in a gritty, realistic feel of a medieval setting with fantasy elements. It's absolutely perfect for a game and the amount of history in Game of Thrones can make the games feel like a history lesson in their own ways which is what Total War and Mount and Blade do so well in my opinion (TW more in that field). Playing a game could give us new insight into the books/show and give us a lot of "what if?" scenarios.
Rewriting the books in a way in a game by taking control of the throne with your favorite faction would be worth it alone.
I see more potential in this series than anything else out there just because of how rich the history is and how far they go into the characters and kingdoms. It's not just a show that's all about the sex and gore, but you actually feel emotions in scenes and feel for the characters which is something not a lot of stories have done in ANY entertainment medium.
I could see how it might be that way too which is why it was a hard decision. I think the break in between seasons, while obviously painfully long, also keep it feeling fresh to where I don't think I could stop myself if I read the books. With this, I HAVE to wait a year to get my fix and that makes me anticipate it more. In the end though, it really just came down to memory loss, especially when shows are sometimes easily forgotten too. I need a cheat sheet with names for each scene.
first thing I thought lol
The introduction of Grey Wind was masterful, and I love how we got a shot of Summer's reflection in the water. No Ghost though...
Melisandre's like a Nintendo game, looks much better in motion. I also found the Robb/Catelyn scene very touching. The Starks just want to get back home and be with family. The build up to the few seconds of Arya at the end was also great. She was mentioned throughout the show by pretty much everybody, and then we get the shot of her at the end. Hopefully we'll get to see Jaqen H'ghar next week.
Melisandre's like a Nintendo game, looks much better in motion. I also found the Robb/Catelyn scene very touching. The Starks just want to get back home and be with family. The build up to the few seconds of Arya at the end was also great. She was mentioned throughout the show by pretty much everybody, and then we get the shot of her at the end. Hopefully we'll get to see Jaqen H'ghar next week.
I don't see how anyone could be confused.
Scene on Dragonstone: Melisandre says "Lord of Light! We offer you these false gods." There are a bunch of wooden statues burning. Makes sense.
Massacre at the end: Joffrey hints at getting rid of Robert's bastards. We see the brothel girl with an infant daughter who Ned interviewed in Season 1, and the baby is killed. Then a bunch of black-haired people get slaughtered across the city. Then Janos Slynt is asking about Gendry, who we know is Robert's bastard son. Seems easy enough to figure out.
Scene on Dragonstone: Melisandre says "Lord of Light! We offer you these false gods." There are a bunch of wooden statues burning. Makes sense.
Massacre at the end: Joffrey hints at getting rid of Robert's bastards. We see the brothel girl with an infant daughter who Ned interviewed in Season 1, and the baby is killed. Then a bunch of black-haired people get slaughtered across the city. Then Janos Slynt is asking about Gendry, who we know is Robert's bastard son. Seems easy enough to figure out.
I thought the same thing, lol.
I agree with him, and I've seen just about every critically acclaimed show of the last decade except Mad Men, Rome and Spartacus.
superdeluxe
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Loved it. Nice set up with all the different kings and such. Joffrey is still a prick. Peter dinklage getting first billing and rightfully so.
Yeah agreed, this show is nowhere near Breaking Bad's level.
Honestly, it sounds as if he forgot to put his accent on. Either that or they dubbed it over on a second take/in the studio.
ThisWreckage
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He's also cognizant of his abilities and how valuable he is. That scene can be read several ways. She sparred him to prove that she wields power over him or she sparred him because he is clearly an asset to her. Or a little of both.
He has vast resources when it comes to knowledge and information. When he dies, all of that dies with him. He can as brazen as he wants to be.
Supermanisdead
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Yeah, the baby scene was really clear if you remember Gendry, but not so much that girl from Season 1 who lived in the whorehouse. It should have focused on her instead of more RoZZZ so people wouldn't just see a random baby being stolen.
EleventhDoctor
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Great episode but bummed at the lack of Arya.
I really disagree with that.
PhoenixDark
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Mormont: We chose different paths
Craster: Aye, and you chose the path with no one but boys on it
ahahaha. Craster's been listening to Ether
Craster: Aye, and you chose the path with no one but boys on it
ahahaha. Craster's been listening to Ether
Supermanisdead
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Craster looked like some regular old dude. Most of the Nights Watch looked more wildling than him. I was expecting Walder Frey-type nastiness.
BlueTsunami
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I need to watch it again since I was among a group of people when watching it but I wasn't really struck by anything about the episode. It felt a bit too dense and all I could see were moments in the book being rushed through. I don't know, felt a bit cold to it due to this.
Also the accent Carice van Houten is trying to portray seems to slip in and out. Seems a bit too nuanced to be distinguishable. Just give me some naked Natalie Dormer, awesome shots of Brienne, and more Arya.
Also the accent Carice van Houten is trying to portray seems to slip in and out. Seems a bit too nuanced to be distinguishable. Just give me some naked Natalie Dormer, awesome shots of Brienne, and more Arya.
I don't like comparing because BB is entering it's final season, while GoT is only 11 episodes in. Taking that in account, there's no way to say GoT is the best show since The Wire.
I agree with this:
I didn't read it as speculation. I read it as (full book series spoilers)
KingK said:
I didn't read it as speculation. I read it as (full book series spoilers)
"ugg, how much longer till they kill this person off again?" in the "I know this person dies, how much longer do I have to put up with him" sense. I know others would have as well. A PM probably would have been a wiser course of action in retrospect. If I confirmed it for anyone, I apologize.
Edit: Turns out I was right and it was a spoiler. Sweet, sweet semi-vindication. I still feel like a semi-asshole for being one of many to confirm it as such, but at least it's only semi now. I would never come into a thread with "marked spoilers" in a million years if I hadn't read the books, but I still feel bad for anyone that did
Too late...
Fair enough.
Either Breaking Bad or Mad Men is probably the best show since The Wire. I'm pretty confident that GoT can reach that tier though.
Agreed, at this point, its too early. But having read the books, and seeing how they've handled the show so far, I'm seriously pumped for the rest of this season, and the future of the series. If some ppl thought the S2 opener was good, you aint seen nothin yet
I fucking love Breaking Bad, but I certainly don't feel that is on some other level entirely. I don't even think it comes close to GoT in terms of scope, production values, and ambition. Not even fucking close. The fact that hbo is pulling this off as well as they are is beyond impressive to me. Obviously BB doesn't have the massive budget and cast of characters that GoT does, but I'm guessing it's a lot easier to write a small tight storyline involving a very limited number of characters in basically one setting compared to having to juggle this behemoth of a story and cast. I don't really know which show I like more, but I definitely like these 2 shows more than anything I've seen on tv in years. They each have their strong points. I'm bummed that BB wont be on past season 5 though, that's for damn sure.
Guys, you need to be able to discern between someone blatantly posting a spoiler, and a non-book reader posting assumptions/speculation about the future. I'm guessing that guy who posted the "spoiler" hasn't read the books and is speculating, but by reacting in such a way it seemingly confirms that said event takes place. That's the second time that's happened tonight, I believe (and with the same thing).
Perhaps non-book readers shouldn't be allowed to post speculation here unless they clearly label it as speculation based on not reading the books, otherwise whenever they're right about something we'll get people yelling "SPOILERS!"
Perhaps non-book readers shouldn't be allowed to post speculation here unless they clearly label it as speculation based on not reading the books, otherwise whenever they're right about something we'll get people yelling "SPOILERS!"
Tesseract
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Yea, that kind of backfired. At least it wasn't a mind-blowing thing...lol
I was hesitant to post on another forum all night tonight for the same reason.
timetokill
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Loved this episode!
highlights:
- I thought Sansa was great in her little screen time. The interaction between her and Joffrey is outstanding.
- Joffrey is such a little shit, what a great actor
- I love Cersei being called a disappointment, and then the realization she has when she realize what a monster she has created in Joffrey
- Robb Stark's scenes were all amazing
- Same with Melisandre
- Love the casting on Stannis and Melisandre.
- What they're doing with Theon right now is (series)
- Thank god they had Bran scenes in there with Summer. I was so happy about that.
- Can't wait to see some Arya next episode.
highlights:
- I thought Sansa was great in her little screen time. The interaction between her and Joffrey is outstanding.
- Joffrey is such a little shit, what a great actor
- I love Cersei being called a disappointment, and then the realization she has when she realize what a monster she has created in Joffrey
- Robb Stark's scenes were all amazing
- Same with Melisandre
- Love the casting on Stannis and Melisandre.
- What they're doing with Theon right now is (series)
devious as hell to non-book readers
- Can't wait to see some Arya next episode.
Agreed, at this point, its too early. But having read the books, and seeing how they've handled the show so far, I'm seriously pumped for the rest of this season, and the future of the series. If some ppl thought the S2 opener was good, you aint seen nothin yet
Yeah, deffo, I was just comparing the entirety of both shows, and I'd rank BB ahead of almost any other. But if you put them head to head, it's pretty even.
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